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Feb 12

I clearly know that there are many good white men and women out there in society, so my question is that since there were many good white men and women during the time of slavery, why is it that slavery went on for about 400 years? ...Why wasn't slavery abolished sooner?

I am a black person from the Caribbean by the way

I myself could try to think of a reason, maybe in the early days the good white men and women that were against slavery didn't have the power or authority to bring an end to the system of other humans being sold as slaves ....there could be many other reasons?

I don't mean any harm or offense to any white person by asking this question

I believe we as the human race can learn to get along better and create a future where we can all make it

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People who are unwilling to seriously question the world they live in and just accept things as good and okay because they don't know a time when it wasn't happening, and are quick to see those around them as lesser.

I think it was a combination of

Racism and White Supremacy. The white people didn't see black people as equals.

Rich people. They had a lot of influence over keeping slaves around. The invention of the cotton gin, tho making separating cotton easier, actually lead to a larger demand for slave labor because businessmen could put out a larger profit.

Tradition. When something is seen as the norm, it's hard to change some people's mind to rethink things. Some people don't want to think about the negative aspects of their culture or society.

... for the same reason why spiritual evolution didn't immediately happen after Jesus or Buddha showed up...

... the human ego. Root of all sin.

Money. Everyone was enslaving everyone in those days. The average person didn't have the money to stop it and tried their best to be kind/decent to everyone. It wasn't until the rich in government decided it was a moral issue, things started to change.

Couple things, slavery did not last 400 years. It was around for thousands of years and still exists in africa and the middle east to this day. No society, and I do me NO society had a problem with it until white protestants said it was evil in the 1700s. Before then all societies had slaves. It was the norm. Greek philosophers, even the great thinkers thought it was normal for some people to be in slavery. In 1516, the book written call Utopia, had slavery in it. The slaves in the movie 12 Years a Slave were not captured by white slavers, they were bought from black slavers. Black slavers sold millions of people to the middle east and asia. Every race on the planet at one time or another was a slave. The root word of slave is Slav, the word used to describe eastern europeans. Then the british empire said it was wrong and spent a good century stamping it out. (and a small fortune doing it) And every society fought tooth and nail to keep it. Slavery is the norm for all of human history except the last 200 years, be very happy you live now.

You're very idealistic and kind.

Humanity have seen slavery for as long as it breathe. The only reason it has been 'abolished' is people fought for that freedom. And that is only within what you know as America. For such circumstances to arise, you need more than 'belief'.

Even in America, modern human trafficking still exist and is quite an issue. But yes, the idea of 'slavery' to what you perceive, is over per se.

To this day, slavery exist in other countries. This is the simplicity of humanity, some will abuse others and justify it however they please. It is ugly, but it is the truth, and it has been the truth for as long as history itself.

In the end, you can't stop evil, that's the basic of it. I don't mean to sound cruel, but what good is your belief? In America, you can vote, and that gives you some power or some say. If you were in a less fortunate country, what good would your belief do? It does very little. The reality is, countless had to sacrificed their lives, for us to be free as we are.

To ask why it wasn't abolish sooner, is very. Though, I doubt you meant it like that. It is very insulting. Everyday, people wish and worked toward that goal. Even today, people work to keep it that way so we don't turn back to that nonsense. You and I, won't ever know the fraction of the torments daily lives of the past. And thank to all those whom have fought for such reality, that we won't.

You believe the human race can learn to get along? How idealistic. You don't realise some of the people within this human race are wicked and evil, and it will always be that way. What good are your words to them? Only through literal physical intervention do they stop.

There will always be bad and good people in the world. You can't erase evil. Fortunately for us, there are many strong good people willing to put their lives on the line daily to stop the bad people. Praise their valour and sacrifices.

The reason why it wasn't abolished 'earlier'? Is too complex of a question to just answer so easily. Maybe try studying how slavery have ended in other countries and etc. But, in the end, I understand where your'e coming from. It's very frustrating to see the reality of the past.

But again, at the same time, rest well. Cause there's no 'easy' answer. If there was, it would have been abolished 'a long' time ago. America, in comparison, have gotten rid of slavery pretty fast compared to history. Then again, it's a fairly new country as well, so there's that.

Due to greed and superiority. None of these monsters want to lose what makes them powerful so they hold on to it with an iron grip. We weren't even seen as people either. Just tools that could be tossed out and replaced when "defected".

Being an abolitionist(or simply humanizing black people post slavery) was a huge risk because you could be shunned at best, killed at worst.

Well yeah I should have explained my question better, I know that the good and evil people in the world won't get along because positive energy and negative energy don't agree but what I meant is that all the good people in all different ethnic groups worldwide can learn to get along, this even makes me think about when Christ said "I give you a new commandment, that you love one another."

You said things don't change unless there is some kind of intervention, well I do believe there will be some kind of intervention. I believe that the human race is being watched and observed by more intelligent beings out there and these beings whether you call them angels, aliens or whatever will help to stir humanity in the right direction towards love and oneness. We as humanity will probably go through many violent wars and conflict before this world of love and oneness emerges. Us human beings only use a small 10% of our brains and 98% of our DNA is inactive, so clearly the beings that created humans gave us hidden mental capabilities that hasn't been unlocked within us yet, so that also makes me believe it's possible for us to reach a higher state where we don't cause each other pain as a race filled with different colors of people. In Psalm 82:6 Christ himself referred to human beings as being gods, it reads "I have said, ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." ....I don't believe us humans will be in this chaotic state forever.

Off topic but this isn't true. Different parts of the brain are responsible for different functions in your body. So functioning as a human means you are using most of your brain.

Hell no, we only use a small percentage of our brain, there is more in us that hasn't been unlocked yet

That whole 10% we only use our brain stuff. it's... ..yeah... I don't know if you're young, or just gullible.

We can each believe in what we believe in. when it comes to using only 10% of our brain though, I think you're just finding things that lines up to your ideals without second looking at the actual science behind to understand what they're actually saying.

That 10% thing been largely debunked, but me telling you that will not change your belief even if the facts and studies themselves are backed by science against your belief that we only use 10%. You may say your own science back up that 10% claim to benefit your belief. Similar to the whole alpha/beta wolves studies, which is, yes. Also largely debunked, even by the original scientists whom conducted the study. But people continue to use it to back up their beliefs because it just lines up with it.

I recommend in least, to read up on those preposterous studies of 10% brain usage, and the research that pretty much summarises up as we do use all our brain, just not at the same time. If you don't read up on them, you're just simply trusting words from random people without knowing their reasons for writing such papers or intention. A basic thought is, why would we need to use more than 10% at a time? Part of your brain main function is language, why would you need that when you're running, etc.

That's like saying you aught to move your legs when you're lifting something with your arm, it's unnecessary and wasted.

I will just plainly say it. You are what, let's say you're 50 years old. Recorded history spans back 12000 BC and so forth. It is very grandiose, to say such things as you have. But, I will say. In least, you say it out of kindness and most likely, love. No one wants to see chaotic suffering forever.

But to think something will change when there's no evident of that, is just. Plainly foolish, how many people do you think since Greek time thought the same? And now it will just happen? Or sometime in the future? When? Who knows. I hope you're correct. I'm not as, it's not even optimistic. That's just plainly goes down to belief.

Forever is a long time. People use it so sparingly. Do you believe humanity will be chaotic for the next 10,000 years for example? No need to answer that. My point is. Anything over 500 years is a long time of suffering, and it might as well be forever since that'll be 20 generations down the line.

You give too much credit to.... the capability of people and also undermined it....

We are what we are taught. There is more human rights today than ever because overtime we are taught that, and overtime more people have fought for that, generation to generation. And all of that, can go away if we are taught the wrong thing and fight for the wrong ideas. It's as simple as that. It's not like within the next 3000 years, human will somehow 'evolve' to not hate one another. Come on.... this 10% of our brain thing is... what kind of idea have that inspired people to have....

You seem to be a Christian. The bible been around what, 4000 years. Even people knew back then to treat others as one aught to be treated. I'm on your side man. I'd want to wake up tomorrow and all hatred is gone too.

I just think that's wishful thinking though, and quite dismissive of people whom aren't waiting for such things to just happen, they make it happen by putting in the work.

People build hospitals to show hospitality to the sicks back in the day, is where the word comes from. Give the people some credit for building them, not some alien, angels, or what have you. They didn't do any of that. People didn't wait for those hospitals to be built, they decided, we'll build it ourselves.

Hmm do you believe the stories about the shepherd boy David killing the Giant, the story of Samson bringing down a temple with his bear hands, Moses parting the red sea with his serpent staff or the story of Christ walking on water?

Well this has been an interesting exchange of words, but of course I can't expect everyone to believe the same things that I do ....but it is nice hearing your view on this matter :relaxed:

Hi guys,

FYI, OP is the same guy who had classics like "Are people with the RH Negative blood type descended from alien beings?", "Do you think it is possible that some people are really NPCs?" and "A comic based on what this video is saying would be cool, but is it true history?"

Soooo don't get too heated in here, okay?:smile_01:
(Also OP is like "Yo, 400 years of slavery was bad. We should stop it now, fr fr.)