Torso measurements on teenage and adult characters drawn with shorter proportions

[amymadison182]

I'm not talking about torso measurements on chibi characters or midgets, but torso measurements on teenage and adult characters drawn with shorter proportions, show example pictures of torso measurements on teenage or adult characters with shorter proportions.

[Kelheor]

I mean... Google usually helps? What does it even means, adult with shorter proportions? The proportions will be as you will draw them, no more no less

[amymadison182]

I will practice drawing soon, but finding torso measurement on Google is probably just results on measurement on torso to fit in clothing.

[Legendofgenii]

You may draw them however you wish. There is no specific measurement or Golden Ratio when it comes to Illustrated characters.

As long as they are recognisable as a human figure, you’re good.

[amymadison182]

I don't draw that often, but I'll draw them in different proportions.

[Kelheor]

And that's completely fine. Here's the example of three characters with different proportions from one comic.

If you're struggling with consistent proportions for one character, that's okay too, you can try to make yourself a reference sheet and try to follow it the best way you can. People won't notice small difference and you will be better with time.

[Lensing]

The torso has exactly the same measurement, just like in the midget and tall person example.
It´s 100% the same measurement

I just checked it quickly with a family standing around. The relationship between ribcage and torso
is always the same. Doesn´t matter how tall or short the person is. Just shorter legs, arms etc.
And of course bigger dimensions of the ribcage when the person grows. But the torso measurements
stay the same

[amymadison182]

Here's a drawing from a website called Zebtoonz:

They're drawn 5 heads tall as opposed to the regular 7 heads tall adult.
Usually in stylized character art, adults are drawn 5 or 6 heads tall, while child characters are drawn 4 heads tall. other stylized character art have adults drawn 4 heads tall, the same thing with teenage characters drawn with those proportions.

[amymadison182]

Yeah, I referring how small or big the torso is, not the measurement.

[Lensing]

Can you explain what you are asking for exactly?

[Kelheor]

You can do anything for stylized art. You seem to be hunged on this question and it's not quite clear what you want. As @Legendofgenii said there are no strict rules. Look at real people and compare them with how you draw it and think what exactly are you struggling with (and if it's even a problem to begin with).
You can add your art if you want to show it better.

[amymadison182]

I do look at real people and photos of real people, duh, I'm not struggling with anything, but thank you for your advice.

[amymadison182]

I was explaining how the small or big the bodies and how large or small the heads are.

[Lensing]

well, it´s different, like in the family example.
When you ask for torso measurement it´s always 100% the same for every human.
Just shorter legs, arms and dimension

This is a quick trace over over the family I uploaded.
I used the the same torso, just pulled it bigger or smaller.
The arms and legs are shorter or longer for different ages.

[amymadison182]

It is 100% in all humans, but you pulled the torso bigger and smaller.

[Lensing]

The dimension in itself are always 100% the same.
The relationship between ribcage and pelvis aka "the torso"

A bigger person obviously has the bigger ribcage, a grown up the bigger torso than a kid
etc. There are differences between men and women in the ribcage and pelvis but you
can put this shape over every human and it will fit and then attach arms, legs and head

[HGohwell]

Ok, so proptions are all about ratios to heads. This then depends on your style, but generally, you're looking at 4-5 heads for a child, 5-6 heads for a teen and between 6-7, even 8, heads for an adult, although for women you usually want to be on the shorter end of that scale, and this can look ridiculous in certain styles. The torso is roughly 2 heads depending on the style. To create a taller person, you add more heads of the same size to their frame and for a shorter person you take them away, usually around the legs, so the torso measurement doesn't really change. A longer torso, generally creates a prettier, more refined figure (look at pieces like CLAMP, they often elongate the torso of their pretty boys) while a short torso doesn't so much make the character look short, so much as stocky and square.

[BoomerZ]

For children, head size is the main difference in scale. Your head doesn't grow as much as you body.

[amymadison182]

it's not just the torso, the dimension of the ribcage and pelvis is 100%. Adults have bigger ribcage than a kids or a baby's ribcage, but I'm not talking about the ribcage and pelvis, that's the skeleton part of the torso.

[darthmongoose]

Adding that torso:legs ratio isn't dependent on age or height. It varies between people based on genetics, but stays pretty consistent.

As an example. I have unusually long legs, they're over 50% of my total height (above average)...but my total height is only 5'1" or 155cm. However, I've always had these proportions, and my sister, who is around 5'5" or 5'6" and brother, about 6' both share these proportions. My sister's daughter also inherited long legs, even though she's only seven years old and below five feet tall. So I can confirm, unless you're looking at a very young child, your legs:torso ratio won't change with age.

Head: body ratio tends to have the head a bit larger on smaller people, but there's not a huge difference between say, an adult of 5'1" like me, and a thirteen year old boy who is 5'1" whose adult height will be 6'. So generally when drawing teenagers, draw them proportional to their current height rather than worrying too much about whether they're still growing or not. Especially since women and AFAB people often hit their adult height at about fifteen, and men or AMAB people around sixteen or seventeen, so with most stories about high-schoolers, everyone will be roughly fully grown.

The differences with teenagers tend to be more in things like the width of the shoulders and pelvis. Younger teenage boys have the more "1.5x head width" shoulder measurements more similar to women, while an adult man could have as much as "2x head width shoulders" if he's particularly broad shouldered. This doesn't apply to everyone though... not every man is proportioned like Chris Evans. There aren't hard and fast guidelines because everyone's different. We all mature at different rates, and a person's genes and upbringing can have a big impact on how they develop.