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Dec 2018

I don't really care tumblr is banning nsfw content because a lot of sites do that anyway. The real problems are:

1) tumblr allowed porn in the first place and now have a site flooded with porn unlike other sites that set the policy when it was created. This means they have to use bots (because real humans are too much effort) to flag porn

2) This is where the real problem lies: the algorithm is broken and in its infant stage so if you are dumb enough to think "lol I don't do porn, i'm safe!" no you idiot, your work will get flagged too. People are getting pictures of flowers flagged and other stuff. Stop focusing on the whole tumblr breaking down on nsfw content and focus on tumblr is breaking down on EVERY CONTENT THAT A ROBOT THINKS IS PORN.

It's actually already got a decent human following tho! I get a good handful of human commissions and while my human work isn't as popular as anthro, it still gets attention! It's one of those instances where it's a niche within a niche.

And yes. It's a community built on personal [fur/persona and oc] art and artists, so it treats the creative community a bit differently than IP fandoms.

I'm not thrilled about this because they've also been flagging SFW stuff as NSFW. Whatever algorithm they're using is garbage.

I'm very torn and sad. I can only imagine what it feels like to have your account deactivated or your content flagged for not doing anything. And as someone who left a place where they were abused, I can't blame them. It just really hurts that the people leaving are people I am attached to.

The only thing I will say is that I will miss them and I hope they really are leaving for the right reasons not because they're losing their smut.

I don't know, but I see this as lazy on their part. Why not be better at detecting when NSFW contains a legit child?

HAHA THIS IS JUST A CAVALCADE OF NIGHTMARES

  • as mentioned, their algorithms for detecting NSFW are hilariously bad. I had probably around.... 10-15ish posts flagged? None were actually NSFW and we all had a good laugh looking at which of my drawings17 were Too Hot For Tumblr
  • you have to just.... scroll through your whole blog though. Like, there's not a collection of all the posts that got flagged by tumblrs Bots Who Are Trying Very Hard But Not Very Good At This for you to review, you gotta go on the tumblr.com/blog/[your username here] view of your blog and you just gotta scroll through everything. I've been on tumblr since 2011 so THAT'S fun.
  • you can't request review unless you personally posted a thing, so if the tumblr you reblogged a flagged post from isn't around anymore or doesn't want to go back and request reviews for all their old posts, then that post might just disappear if its not caught by tumblr mods.
  • things that are flagged and then unflagged are pushed to the top of your blog! CONGRATULATIONS NOW ALL YOUR POSTS ARE VISIBLE, BUT THEY'RE OUT OF ORDER. (the whole first page of my tumblr3 is previously flagged old posts now)
  • RIP everyone who uses RSS with tumblr and is getting notifications of all these ancient posts being reposted as if they're new.
  • DRAFTS CAN GET FLAGGED, and we have some anecdotal evidence that they might sometimes get posted publicly if a mod unflags them. WHICH IS GREAT IF YOU HAVE STUFF IN YOUR DRAFTS THAT YOU WANTED TO KEEP PRIVATE!! A few people are saying theirs stayed in their drafts after being unflagged, so idk if this has been fixed or if mods just,,, messed up and published things they weren't supposed to??? ANYWAY JUST A NEW LAYER OF THIS NIGHTMARE

Probably because it requires actual effort so why not purge everything to give the illusion you’re actually doing something?

As someone who has copped out of doing work in order to do as little as possible, I think that’s an accurate guess. I mean its like how instead of actually cleaning and putting stuff away, I just shove it in my closet and hope nobody looks. And now I have a perpetually filthy closet that’s too much work to clean. But at least for a while the rest of my room LOOKED clean... at least until it got dirty again and now I have no space in my closet so I pile things up in corners and on top of my bed, while at least having some stuff organized under my bed.

Yeah Tumblr’s doing the online equivalent of that. Incidentally, that’s also how I hid whatever smut I got ahold of. So yeah, that sounds like what Tumblr is doing.

I've been on Tumblr for almost nine years as they are going to purge everybody's stuff (and possibly including mine). I don't post NSFW or lewds on any website as I already checked on my blog and I don't have any NSFW content prior to exporting my Tumblr. :scream:

Tumblr has been flagging everybody's art, even if their works aren't NSFW or lewd. Ello and Pillowfort would be the alternatives to Tumblr.

Tumblr has been hilariously mis-managed for many years, and their app (for Android at least, ditto about iOS) is one of the most buggy "big" social media apps out there. It's a shame since the tagging system works so well for fandom and art stuff, but Tumblr brass has decided to trample over that now too.

A lot of us have been on Tumblr for many years and associate those precious tween-teen years with the site. Feels like a book has closed--it's sad but at the same time it was bound to happen eventually :cry:

I just went through my NSFW tumblr which has about 3 posts and nothing was flagged! :smiley: YEAH!

The people saying that Tumblr's adult content ban doesn't bother them because lots of sites restrict adult content either miss all the big points or secretly agree images of same-sex couples are inherently unsafe for children, POC should not be seen by (white) children, bots are good judges of what's suitable for children, and adults should only view work appropriate for children. Most sites are banning "adult content", and that's what seems to comes along with the bans.

Btw, Pillowfort.io isn't a safe place for creators leaving Tumblr. IO domains aren't supposed to host "sexual or pornographic or that is against the statutory laws of any nation." Pillowfort.io will likely be deactivated in the next year for breaking the UK's regulations.

I've been seeing Newground.com touted as a solution. That site has been around since the 1990s and insists it welcomes NSFW content.

first people were upset that nsfw stuff is being kicked off the website.

then the algorithm started working. it started flagging even those images that were allowed by the new rules, and that made people even more angry.

then it flagged works of art that were perfectly fine for public displays in museums but were deemed too hot for Tumblr. people weeped for Jesus and truth coming out of her well to shame mankind. at that point no one could think they would get upset even more.

then folks realized that any picture with any significant amount of color similar to skin tone was doomed to be flagged. even the abstract ones without any people or body parts in it.

then reports came that all sfw lgbtq+ stuff was being flagged for no reason as well.

all of this happened in less than four hours since the staff's announcement.
there was a lot more stuff that I missed, but to be fair even those four hours have burnt me out pretty badly.

to add insult to injury, i can't export my blog through tumblr's export feature because it's broken for me.

so where is everyone going since tumblr is basically fading fast?

Yeah, Tumblr's not just flagging images. Random text posts and links have been flagged over words, regardless of their context. For instance "chronic" might refer to marijuana, and "pain" might be something sexual. So posts of people with disabilities have been flagged for discussing chronic pain.

I'm not a fan of porn, but their algorithm is garbage.

Just want to add to @ofwaterfall's point that commiss.io and itch.io are two more .io sites that claim to be NSFW friendly and have been mentioned in this whole discussion on twitter. I suspect they're just unaware of the restrictions. A shame, because I really like those platforms.

Though the folks at Pillowfort did mention they were planning to change domains to remedy this, last I heard.

Also, on a similar note, for those of you thinking about creating your own site to escape censorship, research your host! Most, if not all, hosts have content guidelines as well, and they're not always easy to find.

So if Tumblr is removing content that's unsafe for children then does that mean they're deleting white supremacist and other hate groups? I hope so!

Nope for some reason these pieces of shit always manage to stick around.

Despite the fact that hate speech is ILLEGAL in most developed countries.

Funny how that goes. Prioritize ad revenue over the fucking law, apparently.