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Apr 2017

Hello everyone!

You might have noticed that the site has undergone quite a few cosmetic changes to match the apps recently. We hope to continue improving the site and bringing more of the usability of the apps to the desktop experience, closing the gap between the two.

Daron has written up a great article over at Medium that details the changes which you can find here: http://bit.ly/2oPHq1F135

We've also updated our terms and services agreements (as well as our NSFW policy guidelines) which you can find here: https://help.tapas.io/hc/en-us/articles/115005324708-Updated-Terms-Policies-and-Guidelines406 Thanks to every creator that helped us forge the new guidelines! I know it was long overdue.

As with any launch, there are bound to hiccups (like this one: http://forums.tapastic.com/t/concerns-about-terms-of-service/17766/157), and we greatly appreciate everyone lending a helping hand in helping us find and correct any issues that may arise.

Please note that there are a couple more changes to come to the front page, including surfacing more non-premium series, and making up our minds on which one to keep (staff picks vs new & noteworthy, they're the same thing...ish). Please bare with us while we listen to feedback and try our best to apply them to the site in pragmatic ways.

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It will take some getting used to. And personally I think it's become less easy to go to the forum from the original webpage. But all in all change is necessary I suppose, and in only a matter of weeks the changes will be perceived as normal.

I do wish however, that the activity message board was accessable on the mobile app too. It seems odd to me that the're only available through the browser version.

I second what Blobsyoowhan said. I could not find the forums on the main site and had to google search to get access to them.

The link to the forum can be found at the bottom. Which is not an ideal place.

As a subscriber and supporter of many comics on Tapas(tic) I must say that the new "In Library" referring to a comic you are subscribed to feels very impersonal. This platform is amazing at establishing connections between creators and their followers. None of the other comic sites have this. The moment you hit subscribe on this site you show both your interes for the comic and your support for the author. Now, when you just add something "In Library" it kind of takes away from this connection and excludes the author. I know every now and then changes are necessary and I still think this platform is absolutely amazing, I just hope you will preserve the personal touch that made it so special.

Ahhh the new style is so "bubbly" it's doing a number on my eyes, gonna have to get used to that o.o

The message board must be accessible to the mobile site. (It takes a longer time for me to load the desktop version, so please, this feature must be included to mobile users)

My main problem is the fact that the homepage is very very busy now.
There are way too much categories for me, I guess it's OK on the app because it's on a tiny screen, but here I feel lost and I feel like I have to scroll endlessly to get to the popular/trending/staff pick categories. I get that you want to put the premium comics and books first, and I don't have any problem with that, but I feel like it could be a bit lighter. Definitely, less categories in between would be nicer. And I wouldn't have found the button for the forum if I hadn't read the info here (I had to google "tapastic forum" to get here).
That's it for now, the font seems good to me but I have a huge screen so that's probably why I can read it clearly ^3^'

ah, now i know, why my dark Tapastic theme isn't working anymore ^^

and that is also the biggest point from me... please give the site a dark theme... all the white is hurting my eyes in the night
i can get used to the rest, but not the white

I'm working on a more comprehensive review of the new layout rn, but so far, I think my biggest points for feedback are:

  1. The appearance. Right now it feels like it's just the "view desktop version" version of the app, and parts of it really doesn't work. Two biggest examples are the front page as well as the dashboard. The dashboard is pretty cluttered right now IMO and just isn't as user-friendly as it used to be. It's almost like it's too much in too minimal of a space. One of Tapastic's greatest strengths has always been keeping things looking and operating as minimalist and simple as possible. So it's kind of an eyesore to see it cluttered with as much as it is.

  2. Front page. Premium comics, premium comics everywhere. I get it that you guys need to make money, but before the non-premium community members were ALREADY faced with enough competition as it is with the naturally-popular genres (ex. gag-a-day, BL, etc.) so now it feels like we've been pushed back even further by being forced to the very bottom of the web page below comics that are ALREADY advertised literally EVERYWHERE on the app. Again, I get it you guys need to make money, but I feel like it's becoming too "exclusive" like places like Hiveworks, where you're either the "popular" kid or you're just a loser lol

And what's going to become of the banner section? Is this just going to be premium comics/books all the time now? I always enjoyed finding new comics with the banner system before but in the past several months it's just turned into ads for premium comics which I have no intention of reading, as someone who doesn't really care for the coins+keys system (and honestly, I really don't enjoy many of the comics/books that were selected for premium... but that's just my personal taste lol) and having to pay to read comics (ironic considering I'd love for people to do that for me xD but I don't force them behind a paywall either, if they want to read my content early they can pledge to my Patreon, otherwise they can just wait a few days lol... maybe that's why I'll never make a living off my work stuck_out_tongue )

The way the front page is laid out now, I'm almost preferring how Webtoons does it - a section for Featured, a section for Discover (their free to upload platform). That way the Discover section has its own methods of exposure, even if it's on a separate page, and doesn't have to directly compete with comics that are getting exposure just because they're contracted.

  1. A lot of links are broken like the Books page and some of the Publisher options, but I'm betting that's going to be fixed soon if it hasn't already since the last time I checked stuck_out_tongue

That being said, I am glad to be seeing the tipping options and such come to the main site. That alone is a step in the right direction, it'll save me a lot of "this version vs. that version" explaining when I'm talking to potential readers (because it turned a lot of people off from the idea before). Still, I feel like the desktop should have been optimized to work hand in hand with the app, but right now it feels like it's just a cookie cutter copy of the app, which is kinda disruptive to the desktop portion of the community. I mean, if you're gonna make the desktop version look just like the app, what's the point in having the desktop version? What's the point in having the app? But I get that this new layout is still like, BRAND new, and technical issues like broken links and such will be first priority, so I'm looking forward to seeing how you optimize it in the future. This is still pretty new and there are gonna be bugs and necessary tune-ups lol

EDIT: Also right now clicking on the Tapas logo in the top left corner takes me to the help page which is probably not what it's meant to be lol (and if it is .... wat)

YES. Thank you for this, I was hoping that the trending section might get a lot of boost up for us creators, since I feel like the site is even less creator-friendly than before.

It is hard for me to log in to the new site using the dekstop version of my phone, and I also find it harder to get noticed now since:

  1. There is a lot of link to specific comics that are already in popular now it is redundant, and fresh/trending gets kick to the bottom where nobody scrolls down that far.
  2. Other ways to find new comics are via the forums, and I almost can't find the forum button on the front page.

I feel like these changes makes those who aren't so hugely popular to gradually lose more.

The font is also harder to read on dekstop compared to mobile.

We are currently updating the fonts package to the website.

The spacing, line weights and overall rendering of the font will be updated to be more legible and easier on the eyes.

These changes will take place shortly.

We originally used FUNCTION PRO for a majority of the fonts on the site, but have decided to make the switch to QUICKSAND as it is easier on the eyes (when rendered correctly) and is dyslexia friendly. The current font package we deployed was optimized for mobile reading and thus had issues with properly rendering on the desktop.


Clicking on the Tapas logo in the help section will bring you to the main help page. This is sub-site that operates independently. We'll change the button to differentiate it's functionality in the future.

Hm, potentially.

Absolutely, we will tweak and edit this as we go along to make sure there isn't too much going on.

It's funny how this issue is not being addressed by Michael. Clearly you don't concern about this. Why do you not like new and unpopular creators and keep burying them 6 feet under?

I'd like to actually address this seeing as how my post was used in this reply.

I highly doubt Michael or any of the staff are out to "get" the creators who aren't contracted. The harsh reality of it is that they're obviously going to advertise the creators that are contracted because these are the ones that are making money FOR Tapas. And as Tapastic gets bigger and bigger, it's harder for the staff to reach out to these smaller comics like they did in the past (I remember back in the days when Michael could keep up with the website with a reading list and even regularly comment on comics and such, but as the website and the brand has grown, obviously they're going to be held up with other things and not be able to be as community oriented as before).

My biggest issue with it is how it's now too much. I didn't mind it as much before when it was on the app, but I did sometimes find it annoying to always be seeing the "DOWNLOAD THE APP" banner on the front page along with series getting promoted via the Comic banner that you could only read on the add, among other things. Still, I could tolerate it. Now that the desktop site is virtually a copy-pasta of the app, it's just more "DOWNLOAD THE APP DOWNLOAD THE APP READ THE PAID COMICS" while the free platform comics struggle to stay afloat with very minimal exposure. That's why I rarely use the app - because there's just no way to find anything that ISN'T pay-to-read (and as I said already, I really don't like a lot of the comics that are available through it. Many of them are the same "style" and it's just not my taste IMO). That's not necessarily an "attack" on indie creators who aren't contracted, it just hasn't struck a very good balance between the two and once again the app and the "pay to read" functions for comics that are only contracted with Tapastic are pushing everything else out of the way.

Remember when we had the Support function that was available for everybody? I want to see that come back, or something similar. At the very least, see the locked episodes become available for more people to utilize in a more customizable way without having to be contracted (because that is NOT something to depend on getting, and by the looks of it, Tapastic has a very, VERY specific market, typically Korean-made drama webtoons and American gag strips). Yeah, it's still pay to read, but it's still OPTIONAL. Much like how people do it on Patreon (myself included) with the Support system back in the day it was like "hey, read this update 3 days early if you pledge $1/month!" It wasn't stuck behind a paywall forever. Hell, even Webtoons doesn't pay wall block their stuff (but... I mean, I don't know how they're even sustainable so... that's not really a fair comparison. I literally have no idea how they manage to stay afloat or how they even make money lol)

**It should also be noted that Michael is the Editor-in-Chief for Tapas. While this isn't certainly a small position, he's definitely not the only one who determines how Tapas should be built and utilized. So like... don't blame him lol there's probably only so much he's actually allowed to say. Businesses can't be completely transparent, unfortunately, otherwise they'd never get anything done lol

EDIT because I feel this is SUPER IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO SEE, STAFF. SERIOUSLY. I don't care if you reply really, I just need you to see it and know that it's been said.

The front page of Tapas, if I've counted it fairly, has 13 divided sections dedicated to Premium and "popular enough to be Premium" series. Books, Premium comics, collection comics (all of which typically are premium), and just random banners you're showing off for the books and paid comics. Thirteen. THIRTEEN. Thirteen individual rows of premium app content that you have to pass by to get to Trending/Popular.

THIS IS TOO MUCH TAPAS.

Even for the app this is a lot to scroll through! There has to be some way to condense those thirteen rows into ten, even 5-7. Again, I get that you want to show these series off, I get that you want to make money and use the most advertising space you can, but if that's the case, I reiterate - why even have the desktop version in the first place? Why even update it to make it look more like the app? Why not scrap the free posting platform altogether and just make it a VIP invite-only place like Hiveworks/the Featured section of Webtoons? Because that really feels like where it's headed right now lol :stuck_out_tongue:

At thirteen rows, it's not even a "free series can't get exposure" issue, it becomes a "WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH ANYTHING HERE" issue. It's so, so messy, and as I've said tons of times already, it basically looks like you took the app and plopped it onto the desktop site, which just doesn't work for a webpage design. It's too much. Please. Please dial it back. I'd love to see it for the sake of creators like myself and the people I work here with, but if you have to find a way to justify it for the sake of "business", even just for the sake of the website design, because right now, it's looking more cluttered than my medicine cabinet x_x

The team is super busy as it is and michael and the team sooorta need to sleep and it's currently 8 PM so like, their work day is undoubtedly done lol give them the typical 3-5 business days at the minimum :stuck_out_tongue:

I would give it a little longer than 6 hours of the new look being live before deciding what and what not he is concerned about.

The issue with the front page being cluttered, the trending/popular section being all the way at the bottom and so on was first and foremost on everyone's mind and has been mentioned just as often. And about just as often the team has been clear that they are collecting the feedback and will then make changes to the front page.

I recommend giving them a few days to get everything working before getting too upset.