Webtoon new policies

[Agreement23]

So many of you may know how webtoon took alot of the bl off. This is a problem because many people lost money because of webtoon so im starting a petition to make webtoon bring back the bls

[eicue]

Well, actually they aren't removing content because it is BL, but because it has strong sexual content. Their new ad revenue system requires the site to be friendly for all ages. Most creators continue sharing their NSFW content in their own sites, anyway.

[AllisonGal]

When did they remove BL? From what I see in the app on my phone, BL is everywhere and already constitute about 80% of all the romance, so I don't get it when you say they took a lot of BL off, Just take a look around.
If you're talking about the new ad program it's got nothing to do with BL but adult content in general for all comics. And it's not webtoon removing these content, it's authors removing their own adult content because they want to get monetize.

[LordVincent]

it's authors removing their own adult content because they want to get monetize.

Not really. The rules went stricter even for unmonetized content.

I removed a lot of my content in order to even be allowed to remain on the site at all and I, along with many other creators, am still getting declined for monetization.

Also BL doesn't make up 80% of the romance, it just looks like it to people who don't enjoy gay romance because they're not used to seeing gay content being so prevalent (since mainstream media has been, and to some extent still continues with, keeping us out). Such people tend to exaggerate the amount of gay content that is present.

Oh, and

it's not webtoon removing these content

Yes it is.
If you don't remove the content they don't allow yourself, webtoon will do it for you. When the rules were first rolled out, creators had to speed to get their comics in alignment with them because webtoon started deleting "offending episodes" the very same day if you didn't.
Those that didn't get the chance to remove the content themselves were thus robbed of the chance to replace the content with a notice of what had been removed and where to find it instead.

[AllisonGal]

BL constitute 80% of what I see in my feeds for webtoon on my phone. Maybe it's different for others, who knows? maybe they're seeing only 10%. it can also look like it for people who can also tend to exaggerate as some of them aren't ever satisfied with anything. Anyway...

True that webtoon have guidelines regarding adult content and many mature comics had to remove at some degree some of their explicit adult content from their original work, but even with LW's policy on that, authors could still post a lot of adult content with no problems and it has been going on for more than a year. I've seen people getting reported but always were reinstated and still they kept their mature content and comic to this day. As a reader of all genre, I've seen very explicit sex scenes in comics and some of these comics were even promoted in LW sections. Doesn't that show LW has nothing against BL? if they did, they wouldn't promote it so much. So I don't get why people are saying that LW is being evil to BL? I think the accusation is way too exaggerated and ridiculous.

The real truth in all this is that Google's bigger than LW, so if LW wants to have these ad programs with them, LW has to suck up to google who we all know have these strict rules on mature content. Same for us, LW's bigger than us so if we want to still make a few bucks we have to suck up to LW and that goes for all comics, all genres. Getting declined in this ad program has nothing to do with LW hating BL and removing BL, but it has to do with what I just said.

[LordVincent]

But you are missing my point about webtoon straight up deleting episodes of authors who didn't break the rules prior to the guideline change, practically within just a few days of the rule changes being announced, without said authors having applied to the ad program because the program was not yet available.

The rule changes were made because of Google, yes. But no, it's not just about creators willingly censoring their content to get money out of webtoon. We have to censor our content and we still get no monetization. Only reason many of us put up with it still is to fish subs that we can then move to places where their readership actually supports us. And yes, in the process of us doing that, you will see a lot of fans being upset about the rule change.

Which is a good thing. Consumers knowing how their favorite creators are being treated is a good thing and we should not be ignored or hushed. I, line many other creators, will continue to be honest and outspoken about the changes in the industry so that customers know which businesses they want to support with their usage and which they don't. By extension, this is the one and only way we can send a message to bigger companies like google. Either they evolve along with society as these taboos are broken down, or they lose business. Their choice, just how business works.

But no, the guidelines don't exclusively target BL. They target all mature, even slightly sexual content which is just as bad because it is still an active silencing of people's sexual and romantic artistic expressions; expressions that for the most part are healthy and completely natural.
I am glad to see audiences not putting up with that shit anymore.

[AllisonGal]

which authors were deleted by webtoon? How many are there? did you look at their content? It's hard for me to believe your ranting because I saw no shit like that ever being a big deal happening in webtoon prior to the new ad program. Maybe 1 or 2 authors went overboard with their adult content and got into trouble with webtoon but you talk as if this happened to more than 90% of adult content comics, as if webtoon was targeting and bullying these comics by removing all of them for just having slight adult content. Since 2016 till mid 2018, adult content has been doing fine with mild censorship from its authors because they know webtoon has a policy about it. Anyway, I see your mind is already set no matter what so believe whatever you want and I'll believe what I believe, looks like you want to try and change the world about adult content. It's good to be a dreamer. Just do what your heart tells you.

[kaiwang868]

Maybe this is an opportunity for Tapas? I look at the Tapas app and it "feels" like that there is more BL content being promoted. I can't talk about absolute numbers because I haven't counted, but I get the impression that BL premium content is being promoted more heavily on Tapas lately.

Whereas on Webtoons, more mainstream stuff like Merryweather-esque (big creator on Webtoons) content getting more promotion.