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Feb 2018

I'm sure this varies from person to person, but what keeps you coming back?

Personally I haven't stopped enjoying drawing and writing, but sometimes I cant help but feel a bit discontent with what I'm doing. I still cant pick out what's making me feel this way, so I was hoping maybe you guys could share what keeps you going and maybe show me what I'm missing.

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I think someone once said that "There's no agony like holding an unwritten story inside you." I'm paraphrasing, but that's the basic gist of it.

If you have trouble creating things, maybe you need to go back to what made you love drawing/writing in the first place? Another saying that is really important for any creator goes like this: "Write(or draw) stories that you yourself would want to read." This is what ultimately allows me to keep on creating - I don't create things for others to read, but for myself to enjoy. Others enjoying my works is just a byproduct.

Me too. I get mentally constipated when I don't write. I'm never happier than when I'm being productive. It can be a strain sometimes, but the reward is something I can spread around for everyone to enjoy.

Definitely agree with you. When I started all I wanted to do was make something I could enjoy, and maybe this is just the case for me, but I can't really enjoy reading my comics. Its not like I think they're bad, I just never feel like I'm reading something new. After thinking about, planning and drawing a comic it feels like I've read it a hundred times over, and reading it again feels like a chore :confused:

I'll be straight forward and maybe corny but I guess what motivates me are the comments I have on my comic and the amount of people who support me. In the past, I wasn't productive and never finished any of my stories. Now, just recently publishing my ever first comic on the internet, I feel motivated by the people who encourages me, so much that I care more about it than my schoolwork. I enjoy creating because my readers enjoy them too. Just something simple like that is the reason I can keep going.

That is interesting. I myself never get that feeling despite going over my story over and over again. Is there a particular thing about your story that you're not all that excited about? Maybe its central themes resonate less with you than you originally thought?

Whatever the case, we as creators still need to learn how to push through the fog of procrastination. Methods vary from person to person - my personal ideology is that I never write tired, since I'm just less creative and less excited about my story when in a state of nigh-hibernation.

Might I suggest(and yes, this is JUST a suggestion) going over your work and seeing where you might've tried to "cheat". For example, you wrote/drew a scene haphazardly even though you had this inkling that it needed to be better. The thing on the paper hardly matches the idea that you had in your head.
Much of our writing and drawing is really just that - trying to emulate that which is complete in our heads to the highest degree. The better we do that, the more satisfied we tend to be.

Oh dear. Why do my posts always turn into philosophy lessons?

@TeddyLemon Aye, it is certainly highly motivating to have other people reading your stuff, I agree. I had a major stint of unproductivity until I started posting online again. Now, my original work is picking up steam.

motivation is a fickle thing, it's unreliable, it comes and goes when it pleases.
I don't work under motivation I work under disciplined, I force the idea out and work on it until I like it, I keep coming even when I'm tired for I like what I do and I don't want to stop doing it

don't know if it will help but sometimes you just got to force yourself to work and send the voices to hell =)

"draw or die,
that's my motivation"
(cit. from a coool video called, in fact, Draw or die)

I realize more and more that I don't have a real motivation for what I do, it's just that I can't stop drawing.

if we wanna get deep about it, i could say my entire sense of self-worth is tied up with the things i create, so im kinda stuck here.

i couldnt imagine not creating art in some shape or form - sometimes im all off visual art for a while, and flip into writing mode, or i flip from prose to poetry and vice versa, which can be frustrating, but theres always something i wanna make. im even dabbling in podcasts right now, which is super fun. its just evolved play - when im making, im investigating, getting hands on with the subject matter.
at gcse art, they taught us that when you look at an artist, 'transcribe, then respond.' copy, then spin off. ive really absorbed that method of working, so i do it with everything i get obsessed with - with narrative arts, the copy is fanart, fanfic, analysis (the fun bit imo), the spinoff is taking the practices and quirks ive learnt into a comic, a story, a poem. you eat knowledge, then shit it back out.

basically, consuming art makes making art unavoidable.

Sometimes I suck it up and continue, but if drawing ever becomes an obligation and not a hobby I can see myself easily hating it. Maybe its different if you look at it like its a job, but there's nothing really tying me down to making comics.

It makes quitting or going on a hiatus that much easier, and I honestly don't know how to feel about it.

Kudos if it works for you though

All of these damn voices in my head keep me up at night, demanding passage from the thought-particle dimension in my skull through to a third-party verifiable, tangible story-verse.

If only I'd taken drawing seriously as a child (there isn't time to dedicate to it now and my crafts are words and sounds). I need to find collaborators for all of these stories I've got simmering.

I always heard this argument the "don't make it a job" thing, and I always wondered what happened to the "do what you love and you will never work in your life ", if you do it like a hobby then why even be bothered about motivation? why bother feeling bad about not doing your hobby?

just wait and stop stressing about it, it is just a hobby after all ....right?

I think its probably because my comic mostly revolves around comedy, as soon as I pick up an episode I know exactly what the punchlines and when most of the value is comedy it really cripples the surprise and humor.

I can relate what to what you wrote about cheating, one off jokes are really easy illustrate and write, often when I feel like I'm pressured to update I just rush one of them out the door. The only episodes I enjoy coming back to are the ones that are plot relevant, but I barely post any because of how taxing it is to write something more meaningful.

I still enjoy writing gags and jokes and I'm sure if I hadn't drawn them id enjoy them, but its not really work I like to revisit. Maybe Ill try changing how I churn these things out.

Ps your philosophy is really helpful

I guess your right. I shouldn't really be overthinking it if its just a hobby, I'm sure eventually I can get over this stump. And if I don't? There's always other hobbies.

So if I had to throw in a quick analysis... You'd probably love to create more plot-relevant chapters, but feel pressured by the challenge of creating them. Might I suggest taking a few days just to figure things out?
For example, whenever I have to do plot planning, I start walking around the house(which is mighty irritating to some) and juggling the plot pieces in my head, to try and figure out what is needed for the plot to advance in the direction that I want it to go. I do it in a relaxed manner, and give it as much time as is needed... even if my upload schedule gets skewed. This way, I feel like I never have to compromise on quality.

And thank you for saying that my philosophy is helpful. I find it rare that someone understands what I mean and takes it to heart. That said, analysis by internet is mighty limited, so I've gotta make do with whatever information I get.

In hindsight I've been holding off the story for almost a month and a half now, like just the other week I tried to draft a significant chapter, but I ended up drawing fluff. Ill follow your advice and let my ideas simmer until I can decide what direction I want my story to go.

Thanks a TONNN for the insight, this is probably the best advice I've gotten about getting out of a slump.

Heh, no problem. The funny fact is, I always face a writer's block whenever I'm unsure of how to proceed. However, when I'm done planning the next story bit, and when I have a better grasp of the whole story arc, I never experience what we call a "writer's block". It's just a matter of writing things out after the initial planning((with loads of editing, of course -you can't do away with that stuff XD).

One more bit of advice: don't plan things out fully. One thing that you could do, is figuring out the main plot points that your story HAS TO go through in order to reach the final destination. After that, you just need to know what the next chapter is all about... and then you can draw it. Or write it. However you want to proceed. I find that once I'm writing the next chapter, I start forming a better idea of what comes after... and the momentum just picks up automatically. When in a slump, however, I recommend stopping for a while and checking where the mine cart goes off-the-rails. Then you fix the issue.

But I think this is enough patronizing from me. I wish your writing/drawing attempts all the best!

Right now I'm pretty sure I know what I want too push the story, its just that I cant really picture how some of the characters are gonna respond. I'm sure in time I can figure it out though.

Once again thanks for the advice, and all the best!

If you want, you can soundboard things with me... I'll try to refrain from giving my own opinions on how you should do things.