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Like people actually asleep and dreaming, how do you write these?

I take it as a get-out-of-jail-free card for some pretty weird imagery (one of my favorite parts of writing):

A bouquet of lilies unnatural shades of black stood with their faces and leaves pressed against the window like tarry shadows, little demons with bats’ wings sucking on the glass, before wilting away into nothingness at hyperspeed.

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There'll be a dream sequence later on, which I won't spoil here.

Oh I love surreal writing!! Glad to see it, or read it rather lol. It’s funny, my current webcomic doesn’t have any actual dreams in it yet but it’s all based on the super bizarre surrealism of dreams. It’s definitely a lot less serious right now but in my normal writing I also like creating dream like imagery :0 Here’s some thumbnails from a different story of a dream sequence, but it’s got some horror elements.

I don't have sleeping dreams in the story but I do have waking dreams/visions in both versions. Basically any time Rip activates his Spark there is a moment between time where a vast sea of power opens in his mind. Is it a vision, or is his mind travelling to another plane of existence? That's up to the reader.

In the old story...there was something living in that sea.


It was pretty fun because I got to go ham with trippy visuals

Almost all of chapter 8 in my comic is a dream that the MC is having while asleep. I used this as an excuse for him to imagine her in this outfit lol

This is from an episode of my series, The Lion & The Owl (please mind the tags)
(present tense narrative - historical gay fiction)

Scipio, lounging on a treatment bench, dozes as the man dabs him with ointment.

Cold, dark water.

Mountains and mist, air thick with pine and rotting apples.

He hugs the driftwood as if lying atop Luna and rides the current with his head up and eyes open. The aqueduct, whose fiercer flows rival the most tempestuous river, carries him under a sky of wicker. Light filters through and casts tiny dots over his small body.

Mother’s voice tells him how the local women weave each screen to cap the elevated canals. Air must be allowed, and bats and birds kept out. There are missing screens on his journey, and father appears on the walk-over, his arms folded.

He floats to him, under him, and then onward


Scipio wakes with a start. A new moon brings the most distant stars to light.


Well a big part of my stor's lore is a place I refer to as "the dreamscape" in my scripts. One such sequence appears in the tail end of Chapter 2 when Kyara picks up a strange pinkish-purple crystal deep underground. It then transports her trhough a few memory flashes from her time at the factory.

You can read that series of events in this particular episod:

More such scenes will feature in later chapters, I'll even tease you one that will happen in early Chapter 3 :slight_smile:

4 Int – Cave – Night/Rain

Zack, Blip and Kyara are sleeping on the cave floor. Kyara tosses and turns, while groaning. The gem piece’s faint glow becomes brighter and brighter until it illuminates a large part of the cave. Close up of Kyara’s face, contorting in pain before opening up her eyes wide open.

5 ??? – Dreamscape – ???

Kyara is laying in a bed, the air seems distorted. Broken glass/panel pieces float through the room. Kyara sits up and looks around. “This is
 my room.” She says.
“Kyara!” A voice calls from behind the bedroom door. Kyara looks up at the door.
“Mom?” she says before jumping out of the bed. The moment her feet touch the ground, the adolescent Kyara is transformed into her child self. She runs through the door to see her mother, Cathrine, standing beside the broken hovercycle holding a wrench. The distortion from earlier is gone, the scene has bright warm colors.
“Come on this thing won’t fix itself.” Cathrine says.


Funny you mention this...

When finding the artist for my comic, I sent each person I was interviewing a short script involving a dream a character might have

Here's the original novel version of how the dream went, which I then modified into a script for the artist:

Poppy stood in a large, open field. Its bright green blades of grass whistled in the wind, sending a rush of dopamine throughout her brain.

What a beautiful view.

She would love to lose herself in this field of dreams, to play in its grassy embrace forever


But there was something off in the distance that caught her eye, standing beside a lone tree. As a matter of fact, it was the only tree of its kind; the rest of the field was just grass that stretched on forever.

She wanted to get closer.

Setting foot through the clusters of luscious grass, Poppy felt each individual blade brush against her legs. They each seemed to hug her, some just waving, even. A family reunion. It felt so comforting, a warm reminder that she wasn’t alone.

But then the atmosphere changed. Suddenly, it wasn’t so welcoming. It was no longer an embrace. It felt like a warning.

A cry for help.

Droplets of water drenched her legs as the grass continued to usher her through the field. It was uncomfortable. Perhaps they were tears. Tears of joy?

Tears of sorrow?

Then she looked back at the distant tree.

A strange figure looked back at her. Every detail was impossible to make out, their body shifting and warping constantly by the second. But one thing remained consistent: a wolf skull.

Jaw agape.

It opened up and uttered two words, that of which boomed and vibrated the very air around her:

“LAZARUS.”

This is what the artist I ended up choosing drew based on the script I gave them:
(You'll have to right click and "open image in new tab" to read it)

(Insert shameless promo telling you to read the series here)

I absolutely love writing dream sequences. Dreams are something that is always featured in my work. Here’s a fave scene from an unreleased chapter


Her voice was there, a quiet melody in the light of the sun. A flash of a thought of a time long forgotten. He felt her hand in his, pulling him forward.

_'Silas! Come on!' There was laughter in an echo, floating away on the wind. _

Fingers entwined, he saw her smile. Red hair lifting on the breeze as she turned. Green eyes of an emerald forest known only to him. He tried to keep up with her pace, pushing his legs against a world of weight pulling them down.

_Suddenly her hand slipped from his and in desperation he tried to snatch it back but she became a ghost in his sight. The sky darkened to black and in that darkness, Silas watched helpless as Sky was sucked away from him. She screamed his name and the remnant of her voice lingered. _

'No,' Silas breathed.'No, no, no, no, Sky!'

_He grasped the black, pushing his hands through it as though he himself were swimming. _

_The black was blinding and even without a sense of direction, Silas shuffled forward in the way he thought she had gone. _

_'Sky!' He heaved her name, beginning to slow. His body a lead weight against his will. He stumbled, hitting his knees against hard ground in a world that was an obscure black. _

_He stopped where he was. Clenching his fists, Silas howled into the dark but its sound soon died away and even Silas soon ceased his struggles. Hanging his head, he panted for air. His eyes shut against the black, his body rising and falling against the deep breaths he pulled into himself. _

Slowly, alone in the darkness, he began to remember. Everything.

Another deep breath. His body shuddering, his marked hand gripped his chest. If he wanted to save the light of his life, he would have to descend deeper into the dark. He would let it in, all to become something more. He would not resist any longer.

'Make me yours and I will follow.' He breathed.

**My Silas,**

_His head stirred. The black speaking his name, the shadows surrounding him swirled. _

listen.

_Silas' eyes remained closed and he listened. His mind calmed, and his body stilled. _

Hear it.

_Silas nodded, the shadows whispering nothings in his ear in passing. _

_Feel it. _

The black flowed through his fingers.

_Taste it. _

_Into his mouth and nose, the darkness seeped. _

_Touch it. _

Flowing across his skin like cold water, Silas shivered.

Obey it. The darkness calls to you. It is time to answer it.

_It caressed his every limb. The shadows enticed Silas into the embrace it offered and he accepted its touch. _

_ If you can pay the toll for your soul's passage, then without chains or the plague of corruption for your sins, you may have your desired place among the Fallen. There is no going back. You will either pass through the flames of what you may become, or die. _

Opening his eyes, the black pools of Silas' eyes began to change. They smouldered with a fire that revealed every mystery that had been hiding in the dark.

My Hellhound. Cerberus.

I added noise and blur on panels depicting the dream

23 days later

By the way - daydreams count too. There are no actual dreams in "Hushabye Prince" but there will be daydreams.

On the other hand, there are going to be a lot more actual dreams in book two of "Damsel in the Red Dress" so that'll be fun. One particularly nice metaphor of a tree with flaming flowers.

But here's another dream:


Once during the early days of the mental breakdown, I dreamt that the masterpieces on my walls were starting to cry. Collecting large drops of condensation or morning dew, rivers of red and blue made their way hastily down the painted faces, blurring their visages into muddy amalgams of ugly passion, and unsightly collapse. They contorted into the most unnatural expressions of grief, like “The Scream,” but more hollow. “The Heartbreak,” “The Drama Queen.” “The Empty.” “Abyss.”

I watched as each face gradually made its way through the noxious metamorphosis, from the pretty strangers in their brilliant pastels to me, in that stupid red dress, weeping.

I hurried down the stairs then - or it felt like hurrying. Being poured down the brief incline in a torrent of anxiety, like a brittle mortal lifeboat, barely avoiding being capsized on its way down a waterfall. I found the paintings suspended as I left them when my perfectionist's brain let me deem them complete, wearing the right faces, but growing moist from the humidity - the canvas damp and pliable, the paper impossibly fragile. I crouched in the darkness by the easel and cried with them.

That’s when I woke up, staring at the wall, at the “Orange Tinted Maiden,” in all her excruciating glory.

I have two specific dream sequences that I really found fun to right! Getting to play with scenery and ignoring certain 'laws of reality' can be so beautiful (or terrifying LOL)

Chapter 1 - Conri, after lying to his therapist, finds himself stranded in snow. A metaphor to his upcoming predicament

Chapter 11 - A nightmare of past trauma and memories that sends Conri off over the deep end (Mentions of SA)

Yeah, dream can definitely be really pretty or spooky. Mine aren't usually that scary in the story, but they do have some unnerving imagery

definitely lol, they allow a lot of freedom more realistic stories don't otherwise have

17 days later

I have another dream sequence coming up in next week's chapter of "Damsel in the Red Dress" but it's much different from the previous dreams, mostly being her memories as she thinks she's awake while also knowing she couldn't be. Though there is also mention of some childhood nightmares in the chapter as well, which continues my using the trippiness of a dream to represent the characters overpowering emotions and fears. I think I've done this in several stories actually (two others at least.) and the dreams are almost always used as analogies for something. Very few times the dreams are just nightmares or whatnot, and those are usually on the nose representations of desires or fears. I'd love to write a book of "Damsel in the Red Dress" from Kattar's pov, tho I probably never will, but it's curious to me to think of the very different sort of nightmares he would have vs. Alicia's nightmares.

23 days later

Oh, my next dream sequence is out. I realize now that as of yet, the only dreams I've really written in "Damsel in the Red Dress" are nightmares. I should probably change that sometime soon lol:


I remember the nightmares.

If I admit
I’m afraid-

Of her.

They started first, a few months before the divorce. I would see shadows in the room that looked like goblins. Crouched and crooked bodies under the beds and in every corner that couldn’t be touched by the streetlight outside the window. I would hug Andrew tight as I watched helplessly - my baby brother becoming one with the darkness - being yanked through the curtains and the glass to evaporate in the moonlight amongst shrieks and pleas - and wake to hear him sobbing-

“‘-Licia. Alicia.”

He’d had a nightmare.

And I'd tell him it was just a dream.

27 days later

How long is it gonna be until my next dream sequence. I haven't gotten to be absolutely mental in too long XDDD

16 days later

Essence, the female lead from my new novel "A Dozen Morning Glories," has the most boring dreams on planet earth. She dreams about work, which proves she spends way too much time working. But on the bright side, she's an editor, which means she's dreaming about stories, though I suppose that could also be creepy depending on the context of the book

27 days later

I'm finally going to get to write another dream soon in "Damsel in the Red Dress." Yet another nightmare. How many people in your stories' dreams represent their ideals or wishes and how many represent their fears? In DITRD my characters' dreams are quite a mixed bag, but the only ones we usually get to see are Alicia's nightmares. I have plans for a sweet dream at some point relatively soon tho.

Well, it's far too early for my sequence, so SPOILERY maybe? But I'll drop this sketch here cause I was doodling it a few days ago where a certain character goes down below in a dream.

To answer your question, that thing this person encounters represents the person's guilt or sins, and fears of said sins coming back to bite them in the butt - not saying if that happens or not. It's a very early concept still.

And the thing depicted is literally my interpretation of Anzu, a Sumerian diety who delivered written law to man (to fowls too in my story's weird lore) but he's punished for his actions, so I saw it appropriate to include it in this dream as a "divine judgment" entity. Again, it'll be a while (like a few seasons) before you see this nightmare, but it's planned...

More of a daydream, but I think it counts.
--Thunder crashed in the distance, and when it did, his surroundings flickered from his dusty, close room to an open-aired utopia. The ceiling had become a limitless, black sky, the walls had become an open and sandy beach, and the smell of the dusty room had been replaced with the fresh smell of greens wet with water. The moon and stars were reflected like beautiful sapphires in the clear and glassy sea. The pleasing sound of water-on-water blessed his ears, and the sand beneath his feet felt rough, but warm and comforting. The iridescent water in front of him beckoned him to it.

He dipped his hands in, shivering at how cold it felt. He had read books about the ocean, but it was not the same as experiencing it for himself. He had the vocabulary to describe it, at least, because vocabulary was all he had.--

The very first scene in Apparent Secrets is a dream. :sweat_02:
Dreams play a huge part in the novel...

It was happening again. That strange feeling, so real, but impossible at the same time. She watched through eyes that were not her own, as the being she inhabited crept from the shadows to the light. All around the darkness, the faint glow of iridescent blue crystals guided travelers along the severe, weather-worn tunnel. From within the coolness of the darkened cave, one could feel the rays of searing red-hot summer sunlight pouring in from the gaping entrance.

Emerging into the crimson rays, a tall, stately avian figure took up a sturdy stance to brace for the fierce, warm winds. From this high and mighty peak, an alien landscape of cliff and forest charged ahead to greet the jagged horizon. The valley below stirred with the movements of wind-swept aromatic grasses and strange, foreign animals. The unearthly scenery was as breathtaking as it was lonely, as there was nothing familiar in sight.

Looking down from the mountain made her nauseous, but her host body did not seem to mind. From the apex of the craggy peak, her host unfurled their long, folded wings and spread the gold-tipped, creamy-white feathers wide. Each plume became a finger, stretching to catch the thermal updrafts from below. Her stomach lurched at the prospect of sudden descent, and her tongue felt thick and dry from sticking to the roof of her parched mouth. Without pause, the host leapt from their perch, pushing off the rocky landing with long, bird-like legs.

Freefall. Dreadful, terrifying freefall. Her host's wings clamped to their backside, and arms and legs were drawn up to maximize velocity. She wanted desperately to look away but was compelled to watch as the ground rushed towards her with horrifying speed. She tensed and lurched, feeling the tightness of anxiety and panic all over. Gripped with fear, she inhaled sharply as her host finally unfurled their wings to take flight. The immense feathers kissed the rocks below, deftly avoiding a disastrous collision.

The sound of her heartbeat rang out in her mind. Too fast, too fast indeed for comfort. Each echo of 'lub-dub' deafened her to the caws and brays of creatures below. Her host's rhythmic flapping of wings went unheard. So too did the whistle of passing tendril-covered trees. Her host climbed higher and higher towards the crimson skies. From this lofty height, one could surely see the whole world. Impressive, beautiful, imaginative, and unreal...

Her eyes opened with a start, in concert with the deep breath she forced upon waking. Iris Alcazar found herself back home, the vision all but a memory now. It wasn't a dream, at least it couldn't have been. She was convinced that this recurring projection was just the latest of her adventures delving into an alien world. She would have thought herself foolish, if not for the evidence of it being true in her own apartment.

ahh, i wouldn't say dreams play a HUGE part in mine, but i often use them to poetically represent my characters fears or worries

so far, I've had three dream sequences



and

The way I make it visibly so is the black negative space a more restrictive margin, and the same setting.

However, when I have a flashback sequence (which in a way is still kind of like a dream sequence anyways), I also have the black background as well, but in contrast I do not follow the restrictive margins, and add a CRT scan line filter to the images

Lucian drifted in a realm of swirling shadows, the edges of his consciousness blurring between sleep and a strange, unsettling awareness. Then, a voice, deep and resonating, pierced the inky blackness. It was Vornath.

The shadows coalesced, revealing Vornath's imposing form. Flames danced in his piercing red eyes, casting an eerie glow on Lucian's face. An icy dread snaked down Lucian's spine.

"Lucian," Vornath's voice boomed, echoing in the boundless void, "the time has come. Your part of the bargain nears. I have a lead on the second gem that we were discussing." Vornath’s gaunt frame moved closer to Lucian. “The gem lies in the jagged hills a few days' journey north of where you are now.”

Lucian, his jaw clenched, asked, “How do you know where I am?”

A cruel smile played on Vornath's lips, devoid of warmth or humor. "Lucian, I'm in your dreams. I am a part of you. You think I can’t pinpoint where you are? Now listen to me because this gem will not be easy to get to. The Jagged Hills are a forgotten place. At the heart of the hills there is a cave with the gem in wait.” Just as Vornath finished explaining the gems location to Lucian his almost skeletal claw wreathed in a green fire motioned to the void.

An image flickered into existence a jagged mountain range unlike anything Lucian had ever seen. Its peaks clawed at the sky like the grasping talons of a beast, a landscape that seemed to defy the very laws of nature. Nestled within a treacherous ravine, a dark opening marked the entrance to a mine.

"The Serpent's Maw," Vornath's voice dripped with a chilling cadence. "There, the gem rests, guarded by darkness and peril. Retrieve it, Lucian. Prove your worth."

“What am I looking for once I get into the cavern? What does the gem look like?” Lucian demanded in exasperation, “Stop speaking in riddles, demon.”

Vornath now seriously looked at Lucian. “As you wish. The gem you are looking for is the color of amethyst. I cannot tell you exactly what you are looking for in the cavern because I myself have never been there. All I know is you better be ready for a fight because the gems are never unguarded. Sources of great power are rarely left undisturbed.”
Lucian turned his back to Vornath. “Why don’t you just go get the gems? You have more power than I do. It just seems like poor planning on your part. What if I fail?”

Vornath hissed. “I can’t obtain the gems myself. I’m not able to leave hell where I reside. At least not without heavy scrutiny. Just the little time I took in Archanella offering you a bargain was questioned. Trust me I want nothing more than to forget you exist and to just go get them myself.” Vornath sneered. “And if you fail I'll find another weak adventurer and convince them to do it for me.”

The image dissolved as abruptly as it appeared, plunging Lucian back into the suffocating darkness. Vornath's words echoed in his mind a gem, a hidden mine, a place called the Jagged Hills.

I like to use mine for gods and lords to communicate with the main character. It keeps it a little more low stakes for more often encounters.

Harley has a dream about Robin, his late fiancé, where they're walking on a beach:

I’m dreaming.
You and I are on the beach, hand in hand, talking about the wedding. You look so damn beautiful, your red hair flying in the breeze. It’s getting long and you say you need to get a haircut. I stop and turn you so you're in my arms. I tuck some hair behind your ear, gazing into your smiling blue eyes.
“You’re perfect,” I say softly. You really are.
“You’re an idiot,” you chuckle. Your arms loop around my neck, your fingers playing with my hair. “You need one, too.”
I shrug, my hands sliding up your sides and around to your waist. “I’m going for a more bohemian look,” I say with a grin. It’s your favorite grin.
“You’re going to look like a bloody bum, is what’s going to happen.”
I laugh, your smile brilliant in the setting sun. “Does it really look that bad?”
You wrinkle your nose. “You were not meant to have long hair, love.”
I stick out my bottom lip in a pout. “And here I thought you found me pretty with long hair.”
It’s your turn to laugh, the musical sound singing in my veins. “You are pretty, handsome even. But your hair is too wild. It’s curling and getting in your eyes.” You brush some off my forehead. “I can’t see them.”
“They’re brown,” I say. “They really aren’t that amazing.”
“They’re yours,” you say softly, tilting your head. I feel a shiver go down my spine and I instinctively pull you closer. I absolutely love it when you do that. My arms wrap tighter around you, lacing at your lower back.
I lower my face to yours, rubbing the tips of our noses together until you giggle. “Fine, I’ll get it cut tomorrow.”
“Thank you,” you whisper. After a minute, one hand slides to my chest. “We’re getting married next month.”
I nod slowly. “Are you getting nervous?”
You shake your head. “No.” Those gorgeous blue eyes, as blue as the ocean we’re walking along, swim on my face. “I’m excited,” you add with a whisper. Damn, and that smile
that most perfect smile. “I get to be yours forever, a dream come true as far as I’m concerned.”
I pull away slightly, moving to take your face in my hands. “I’m already yours forever, Robin. This is just a formality, a statement. You have owned every cell in my body since the first moment I saw you.”
You swallow hard, your eyes shining as you press closer into me, rising up on tiptoe to place your lips softly against mine without kissing me.
“I love you, Lee,” you say, your breath hot and sweet against my lips. And then you’re kissing me, slowly, tenderly. You taste so good, like the wine we had at dinner, mixed with your own personal taste that I could never describe. All I ever knew was that it got me drunk, made me high, made my head spin until I thought the world was going to fly out from under my feet.
“I love you, Robin,” I say when I reluctantly break the kiss to get my breath, my heart thudding against my ribcage. “I am completely and irrevocably mad for you.”
“Don’t stop,” you say, a hitch in your voice. “Please never stop loving me.”
“I’ll die first.” I take your mouth with my own, kissing you with a more fevered passion than before, breathing you in, consuming you, wanting you more than I can express. The hotel is way too far away and I want you now.
That’s when the music starts.
Why is music playing at the beach? There’s no stereo around here, no PA system. Who cares
I’m not letting you go for the world. I feel the tears trail down my face as I pick you up, your legs wrapping around my waist. You are so light
so easy to hold and carry. I could carry you everywhere and never get tired.
The music is on a loop. And it’s a song from a show
an anime. You don’t watch much anime and this is one of them. It gets louder, and the beach begins to fade away. I don’t hear the ocean anymore.
I don’t feel you around me anymore.
I can’t taste you anymore.
Just a cold hard pillow and a blanket that’s resting off my shoulders.

His dreams (and nightmares) are the only place Harley can see Robin again, and this is more of a memory of a happier time before things all went wrong.

27 days later

it actually never occurred to me that you'd need to draw dreams differently in a comic, but it would be worth noting now that I'm working on my first

8 days later

Late to the party, as usual.
This is from a draft story. I think it's a love story but not a romance. It might be the last little novel I write & post here.


As he waited for sleep, his inner eye imagined the photo again, still wondering. His mind slipped softly into a dream and in it her tiny sketch, wedged into the picture frame, turned to photographic realism. His finger touched it and he realized her image was now behind the glass. Sweetheart stood next to the image of Emily. He felt confused. She's in the picture? But she wasn't part of our family. He looked up from the picture and he was sitting at the kitchen table. Sweetheart sat across from him. She'd been saying something but he couldn't understand her at first. Then, very clearly, she said, "Do you ever think of me as your child?"

He looked at the picture. He looked at her. She was reaching her arms out to him now but seemed to be small and further away. As tiny as the image in the frame. "I'm sorry. I didn't get it before. Yes. I do."

She laughed and slid from her chair and ran out the open doorway into the yard. He went to look outside and she was running in the grass with Emily. Patricia sat on a blanket under the tree, laying out a picnic. She waved and smiled. They're alive! He took a step forward and fell onto dusty dirt in a dark space with little room to move. Sunlight leaked past a small crack where a spider was weaving a web. He couldn't open one eye and his ribs hurt and he began to cry, because he knew the world hated him and he would never really belong anywhere except as a thing. Then the dreams got worse and he woke up hours later, sweating and drained.

Check it out, I have a story like this too. it's about the love of an older sister for her little brother she's trying to protect from himself and the judgement of others revolving around his eating disorder

18 days later

they definitely count, most of the dreams in my stories are nightmares.

They tend to be quite flowery. They represent what the character actually wants, or what they're worried about. For example, in Lyra's Magnum Opus, Sana often dreams about being able to walk freely. He uses a wheelchair due to weakness from his illness. In his dreams, he runs in a park at sunset. His boyfriend runs after him, laughing. Sana doesn't want to be caught, loving the joy of running unaided.

ahh, it's the same way with my story