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Hey, PapaDom here.
For times more often than I can count, we've been asking ourselves this question at least once a week (especially the ones who make action comics with a passion burning more than the bars of a rapper): How strong is my OC compared to x?
And even though we've compared each other's OC to ours, we never got an honest answer to this question. But luckily, the times are finally over. This is the question that will put the debate to an end and turn the baby boys of power scalers with ridiculous numbers, to which no one can't grasp the understanding to it, to the manliest men with the chest hairs of the wisdom through logic:

Your OC vs. 10.000 bees :bee:

That's right, baby—no more dumb numbers. No more "oh, my character has the power of friendship and can perform all sorts of asspulls out of nowhere." This is the question you've all been seeking.
So, think and answer honestly: Can your OC defeat 10.000 bees?

  • Yes
  • No

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And before you answer yes and type your 10-paragraph-long answer, consider this:

The bees
-Attack as a group or alone, but don't stay still and wait
-They hate your OC. They really hate your OC. Like, your OC peed in their cereal, kicked their dog in the chin, and slept with their wife/ husband/ partner.

Your OC
-Isn't allowed to call for outside help, support, etc. (Unless they can summon someone or something by something they carry)
-Are only allowed to use the tools they have at hand (Weapons, magic symbols, etc. they carry with them)

I hope you enjoy this tricky question and have fun explaining things.
That's it from me, and maybe we'll see each other next time when I try to come up with a promotion idea for our works without the use of a blood sacrifice. See ya and have a good day/night. :wave:

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I have several OCs that I think would be fun to answer this question for.

Z: No. They can walk up walls and have decent agility but nothing that could even come close to defeating 10,000 bees. For all intents and purposes they're just some guy.

Alena: Undetermined. She has powerful destructive attacks and at some point later in the story she might be OP enough for plot/conflict reasons to defeat 10,000 bees but in an average fight her attacks swing wide and have low accuracy, which would be great against one big enemy, but ineffective against an angry swarm of enemies.

Kyle/Edgelord: Probably. His abilities are about shielding and containment. With the number of enemies and how quick they are it wouldn't be an EASY fight by any means, but the shield would buy him enough time to methodically capture them all.

Marcus/Marc: Yes? I'm not sure if escaping counts as a win, but he has the ability to just pop out of reality. The bees would be unable to follow and he would have to either wait it out for however long is necessary or just stay in exile forever. So either a draw or a win, depending on the rules.

Michelle/Shelly: Unlikely. The rules state that she's only allowed to use what she has on hand, which makes this a bit tricky. Her base abilities have to do with "puppeteering" people and inanimate objects to fight for her. In an all out fight without any moral conflicts she would probably just throw as many people and objects in her way as possible and make them shield and attack the bees for her for as long as it took. In the case where that doesn't count or breaks the rules, it's a bit less likely that she would win. Her base attacks are pinpoint accurate and extremely fast "strings" which she can manipulate to either stab or restrain things, but this is a swarm. She could probably skewer several bees at a time if we're being generous, but nothing close to 10,000 at once. I don't think turning a handful of bees onto her side would help terribly much, either. She might be able to make a mesh or a net out of the strings? But that's a bit iffy and she probably wouldn't have the time to make it fine enough to prevent bees from getting through.

That's a pretty cool analysis you put together, ngl. :thinking:

I guess this is a draw. Neither side did attack the other. Escaping counts as a loss, but if Marc stays in one place while popping out of reality, it makes it a draw.

Summary

In his very absolute best day, KƓra can. He would rather run away, though.

Keane will just burn them crisp, he probably takes joy in it

Given that they're in a large enough group of swarm, Iota can transport them (to your house or anyone of your liking)

Izky can turn into a massive version of bee predators (e.g badger, bear), or just being large enough to not get bothered by them. Unfortunately, he would rather move to Mars than seeing 10,000 bees

Lukas trudged through the forest, looking for herbs to stock his apothecary. The recent rain, in addition to the cold weather made the usually enjoyable task to become a laborious chore. He was just considering giving up for the morning when he saw, blooming through the cracks of a rotting log, a cluster of shimmery, near translucent mushrooms.
"What are you?" Lukas murmured as he stretched over to take a closer look.
The rain and cold, while making the weather miserable, also created ice patches, which Lukas slipped on and flew backwards into the truck of a large tree.
"Ugh," he winced, the breath knocked out of his lungs. "Could this day get any worse?"
The fates answered his challenge by dropping a whole hive, full of angry bees in his lap.

Wilt had only just dragged himself out of bed when Lukas stumbled through the door, covered in mud and looking like he had been in a fight.
"Woah, did you pick a fight with a swarm of bees?" Wilt joked. Lukas just glared, turned and stalked off to the washroom. "He's going to need a coffee... a large one."

This is how I think it would go. I spared Lukas' honor by cutting the part where he runs screaming through the forest, but I'm sure if you listen you can still hear it.

Hmmm ... I have two OCs that are reapers, one of them is also a sea deity and has some cool water powers. So they could technically kill/drown the bees. They just wouldn't because when you're Dearh you don't just do that kind of thing. Besides bees are an endangered species. The ocean deity could just turn into water and not get stung though ... if he's near the ocean that is. If not, well ... :slight_smile:
The rest of the cast would just run away screaming.

There is only one character in my comic that can take on the bees with lightning, but he's a villain so that doesn't count.

All of my characters can't take on these bees, there is one hero who has the ability to control fire but he's been dead for centuries so there goes that.

The least they can do is jump on a river and stay there, hold their breath until the bees leave. If they can't hold their breath for long, then let there heads pop out of the water and take a quick breath and back in the river and this repeats until the bees give up and left.

Andrew would get hella stung but he has the advantage of fire and smoke against the bees so I'd say he has a fair chance.

Danivere can't really kill the bees but her surge also makes them not able to sting her because it would be like trying to sting a car hull

Interesting question! :smile: I voted 'No' because most of my characters won't stand a chance–except Vitaly. He's a giant robot bird so his skin makes him immune to being stung, and he could activate his electrical abilities against the bees.

He's still a major softie though, so will probably choose to run/fly away than face the swarm. :sweat_02:

Even if Wasp himself exploded into 10,000 wasps/bees, its still Regro's job to get rid of them. Even if he had to do it without Misk, he'd figure something out.

On balance, the answer is no. However, I do have two in my ensemble cast who could.


Atria Silversword: If she had her mech, then it would be a cakewalk for her. However, since falling out of her story into the real world, she does NOT have her mech. All she's got is a gun with explosive rounds (which she lost in the first team fight), her sabre, and her wits. She's damned good, but I think in this case the bees have it.


Princess Stellaria: Back when she was an JRPG combat support mage, the bees wouldn't stand a chance. But, in the here and now she's a grad student studying quantum physics, and her powers are long gone. So, she wouldn't stand a chance.


Captain Infinite: He's a superhero who is bulletproof...and that also means he is bee-proof. The bees lose.


Daiki Yamato: Isekai protagonists with a magic sword can't do a whole lot about swarms of bees. He loses. The good news for him, though, is that he's got very good survival instincts and would figure out very quickly where to hide so that he can survive.


The Destroyer: He's a devil king with the powers of a god...the bees don't stand a chance.


Jenny Calhoun: Well, being a monster slayer from a long line of monster slayers does have its benefits - she's fast enough to knock bullets out of the air. That said, bees aren't bullets, and taking out 10,000 of them one bee at a time would be beyond even her. So, the bees win.


Jack Death: He's a rip-off of John Wick (and I mean that in-universe - his creators decided that they liked the John Wick movies, and made a trilogy of mockbusters). Could the bees defeat John Wick? Yes. Yes, they could. Jack doesn't miss, but he doesn't have 10,000 bullets either.

probably instantly dead, for my mc.
I have a side character that can probably instantly kill all of them if they're in a group, but even then I doubt it.
So, if it's my MC alone, she's dead.

I mean technically Evangeline could beat them but she's deadly allergic to bee venom, so one sting and she's in danger. There is no antivenin and this world either.

If Eva knew about it, then she could use magic to kill them but she needs to know about them ahead of time.

None of my OCs can survive thousands of bee stings, especially Daisy! She's allergic to bees!

Since my current story has characters with superpowers, they are capable of dealing with them but their personalities make the outcome vary. It's also an interesting question so I'd like to elaborate on it :tapa_pop:

I'll only talk about the main characters' different reactions (I'll add the headshots so the long text doesn't look bleak):

Brick: Would probably hide inside a river or some place until the bees go away. He is powerful enough to kill them (he has sound abilites and could probably just make them explode from the inside or blast them away cause #superpowers) but he is also sensitive to sound (psychological reasons) and would be pretty disturbed by the sound they make, he feels distressed with white noise and the sound bees make would terrify him, so, escaping/hiding is his best course of action unless he needs to protect one of his brothers or something like that. Basically, unless he is forced to, he'd probably just hide. (If he couldn't use his powers for any reason, he'd still look for somewhere to hide and if that's not possible he'd probably get stung by all of them and have bumps all over. He wouldn't die, but he'd be pretty angry at the outcome xD)

Butch: He can make a force field powerful enough to protect himself, so the bees would probably stop chasing him eventually if he can just get far away enough. He can also absorb positivity/life force so he could just kill the bees, but he is aware bees are important and wouldn't want to kill them (he wouldn't admit his reasons to his brothers though). He would kill them if left with no other choice but yeah, he'd rather fly away than deal with them, haha.

If he is unable to use his powers for some reason, he'd try to hide, if there's a body of water he can hide there, he can hold his breath the most between his brothers so he would probably survive the attack XD otherwise he'd be stung and be all like "dammit" but not on the angry side, just annoyed at his useless attempt at escaping.

Boomer: he'd have it easy since he has the ability to talk with insects and he has electricity as his superpower, so, he can just threaten them. I doubt the bees would still attack knowing he can fry them all lol. He could actually manage to convince them to do his bidding and redirect their attacks towards someone else if he feels vindictive enough.

If he couldn't use his powers, he'd probably just let the bees sting him and not really care. As Boomer can't feel pain, he'd be covered with bumps but wouldn't think so much about it.

Barricade: He is terrified of bees, although he has fire powers, he'd probably run away and hide as well unless he is backed into a corner in which he would then burn all of them out of panic.

If he can't use his powers, he is pretty much doomed XD He has a frying pan as his weapon, so, he can't do much with that and being powerless lol, maybe if it was a few but 10,000 is too much lol He'd probably just faint out of fright.

Brazen: He is pretty respectful of nature so he wouldn't want to kill the bees. He absorbs negativity from others and the environment thus he can solve the situation simply by getting rid of their anger.

If he couldn't use his powers he could also get away by holding his breath, but if not able to hide he would get stung and just stay whiny about the experience, being sulky or in a bad mood XD He'd probably use the situation to be pampered and comforted by Barricade (his brother).

However, Brazen is immune to poison so the stings wouldn't make him be in pain or have swelling, he'd just experience the pain from the initial piercing.

Bruise: He would not really care about them being bees and nature being important but he'd probably just freeze them a little and then get as far away as he can.

He'd probably be okay if the bees attack him, his skin is hard to pierce so the bees wouldn't be able to hurt him.

DONNIE: A normal human with only a bat a no special powers. DOOMED!

AJ: A normal human with only a paintbrush, rope, and duct tape. DOOMED!

LIBBY: A flying plush toy who seems to be able to feel pain. Hm... Perhaps if she's quick enough, she may be able to get away unstung. Though, if she is strung, she's probably experienced a LOT more pain then that. So... kinda complicated with her honestly.

THE MASKED STALKEE: Well, SHE lives in a special dream world hosted by Donnie and cannot possibly leave it. So if HE get's stung SHE'D be fine. However...

THAT'S what a bee looks in her world. (Convenient I had this drawn, right?) So... DOOMED!

Generally, the answer seems to be no. My characters would likely NOT be able to go against 10 angry bees.

I got way too into considering this questions, and eventually figured out the answer for each character:

Summary

Aviva - Absolutely, yes. Can summon golden fire at will, and if she doesn't shape it it will just go wild. If it's between her and ten thousands bees, it's an instant cremation.

Reyna - She's a normal person with a camera and a shotgun. Kinda screwed.

Vin - Close combat fighter with just about no ranged options. He can throw his gauntlets and pull them back for a long distant punch, but you can't really punch a bee. He might survive but he won't be walking away.

Calcy - Really depends on the location. She's capable of breathing underwater, and bees aren't known for their swimming ability. I know they can submerge temporarily, but they can't really outswim a mermaid. If there's a convenient river, lake or ocean, Calcy takes the dub. Otherwise, kinda screwed.

Matchlock - She's an excellent sniper and capable of delivering nasty kicks, but I doubt either of those will help her. It really depends on how long she can evade them. She's a survivor and mostly nocturnal (part owl, baby), and most bees don't fly at night. If she can last until night, she can escape will they return to the hive. If it's a species of bee that won't give up just because she's gone, or one that flies at night, it'll be harder but I like her odds of getting away.

Veech - He's a doctor. He can fight, but he relies on poisoning his opponent with barbs on his arms and letting them tire themselves out. His species is more closely related to plants than anything, but I really doubt that'll stop ten thousand bees from messing him up.

That's a win, three maybes and two losses. Poor showing from the Cherry Ransom crew.

I have two MCs, and the answers there are... very different.

For Adi... she'd lose. She has no magic, and all of her weapons are mundane. She eventually gets very good at wielding them against much LARGER targets (people, animals, etc), but there's only so much that even a fantastic swordswoman is gonna be able to do against thousands of angry bees.

Koreal.... is a completely different story, however. He's a wizard who is covered with magical tattoos, one of which just makes him totally immune to minor physical damage, and bee stings would definitely fall into that category. Even thousands of bee stings. And he's more than capable of fighting back, because magic. The bees wouldn't have a prayer.

I think my character Takumi could with one swing from his sword with him being more Brawn than brains he would create a giant wind to slice the bee's. If they try to swarm him he would spin around very fast slicing them while also creating a giant tornado of wind with winds slicing the bee's

Hey now, a character could be super powerful but just a bad matchup against bees. Saitama from OPM probably can't beat 10.000 bees :stuck_out_tongue:

How about 10 and a half (10.500) bees? :smiley:

(Now that I think about it, is it a regional thing, using '.' to seperate digits for >3-digit numbers and ',' for decimal points? I remember 6,75 by @igneriss was supposed to mean 'six and three forths' while I'm more used to seeing that as '6.75', just like I'm more used to seeing 'ten thousand' as 10,000 :thinking: )

One of Najms abilities is poison tolerence so they'd be ok. however Rahat, Alya and Qamar would probably die, and Qamar and would be super mad about it because they used to hunt giant alien animals but a bunch of tiny insects got them in the end. Rahat and Alya would probably die if there were like 20 bees, they don't go outside much.

Huh, that's an interesting one for sure.

Takara is a vampire, so she's way more resistant to poison, has a higher pain threshold and regenerates. She's also a pretty strong electromancer, so she'll manage to kill the bees... eventually. I assume the personal communicator she carries does not allow her to summon her entire brigade to help, of course, and both her sword and her pistol are pretty much useless against the bees, so zapping them with electricity it is. All 10000 of them. It's going to be a long day...

Amets is also a vampire, but since he's both weaker than Takara and more focused on personal combat, he's kinda screwed. The bees probably won't be able to kill him, though, so it's sort of a draw.

Lt. Janssens and his girlfriend Marja are completely doomed, since they're just ordinary humans. Running away screaming is the best option for them.

Lyza vs. 10,000 Bees

Lyza is a very capable fighter as she can manipulate sand for attacks and if there are no sources of sand, she can use her physical strengths and the environment around her to her advantage.

Her sand attacks can vary from slicers, punches, shields and on top of that, she also has the Sandstorm attacks. That's a different intensity that she can use which still hasn't displayed to any of her enemies yet because of how devastating those attacks can be. Lyza is extremely crafty and she loves throwing insults to her enemies to throw them off their game.

So, yeah, Lyza can defeat 10,000 bees and she will get hurt along the way especially when she finds a way to put them into one, surround them in a sand power and make a giant ball out of them and goes for a 3-pointer. "You've got BUZZED OUT!!!"

Thank you for the fun question! So here is what Annika has going for her:

  • very fast!
  • can use magic, but her magic is mostly based on increasing speed and agility
  • main weapon, scythe, is only effective against ghosts or humans, so it is useless here.
  • can change between ghost and human forms at will, so could at least avoid stings for a while.
  • has a net she uses to catch ghosts, but is it also suitable for bees? Uncertain. Also, to catch the bees she couldn't be in ghost form, leaving her vulnerable to stings while attacking.
  • she loves all animals, including insects and even angry bees, so she would be hesitant about actually killing or hurting the bees
  • she is not allergic to bees.

Conclusion: Could Annika defeat 10,000 bees on her own? no. Would she get stung at least a few times? possibly. But could she at least run away from the bees? yes. I think the character best suited to defeat the bees would actually be Rose, since she can use flame magic (burning all the bees) and doesn't care about killing bugs.

My OC Sentrik Anwir, will die being stung by bees

At first he'll try to escape, fight back or negotiate but ultimately he dies

because first of all he is human-squishy and all, second he does not do any physical exercises and lastly he just flops on the ground and submits to his impending doom

True. But we can make an exception that those bees are allowed to get killed. xD


@nathanKmcwilliams Rip with the easiest method of getting rid of the bees. (Unga Bunga style​:moyai:)


@wispysing Vitaly being a pacifist is not a bad thing. :relieved:


@sartinjacqueline05 I hope there will be no mix-up with Wasp and the bees; otherwise, Regro has more work on his plate. XD


@AmeTsunami Dude, I think you forgot some zeros. :sweat_smile:


@DualDragons @TheLemmaLlama Given that Saitama is a gag character, he can actually defeat 10.000 bees with one punch. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø But it would be funny if he had to struggle the same as with the mosquito. xD

I'm surprised that from all responses I've got, no one, literally no one, even dared to ask, "What's the deeper meaning behind this question?" to me, resorting to answer with, "It's your OC vs. 10.000 frigging bees. The f**k you need a deeper meaning behind this?!"

But I love everyone's take and answers to this question. :kissing_heart:

Additionally, I didn't specify the playing field, soooo depends on your imagination where your OC fights the bees.ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

(Don't you dare change your answer to yes after knowing this. I've got my eyes on you, mister.:expressionless:)


Naota: Due to him being resourceful and all that, he'd capture them instead of killing them in order to look good in the public. Same can be said with his stick figure form, John. He'd be dodging them left and right.

For example:

Also if he really wanted to, he can ping pong an object like this:




D? He's allergic to bees.... and he isn't very athletic... he'd die... for real this time.


The Season siblings have weather powers so I think they'd win. Also Spring has minor influences over bugs, especially bees.

Mago would probably turn invisible in some hope of escaping them. Not sure how effective that would be though. Maybe even try using her illusions on them too

Mimo would magically construct a box over himself and try to wait it out.

Asa is human so unless she's with Mimo she'd probably lose.

My ocs would most likely kill the bees by using the elemental technique. Frederick would use the power of fire. One giant flame from the palm of their hands and poof! The bees are gone.

Nigel would use the power of water to stun (and possibly kill them).

Kay would do the same as Frederick and use the power of fire.

We did some math last night, and after some googling and some calculations, 10 thousand bees weighs approximately 4.5 pounds/ 2 kilos.

Do with that information what you will.

Thanks. 2 kilos, huh? Maybe I could use that info for the bee-powered armor I came up with while thinking about what would happen if I covered my whole body in honey. :thinking:

Also for everyone else, this is what 10.000 bees do to a mf:

@PapaDom Whey, that image of the 10K bees doing to a mf, yea he/she could do with some bee powered armor for sure

XD love it :bee:

Yes, The brothers Evan, Owen and their mentor Xun could each win the angry beez
In season 1, Evan and Owen would prolly struggle bec they still figuring out things but as they master their powers the bees would be an easy kill :crossed_swords: :sweat_drops: :video_camera:

[GAS] Owen Moriarty (advanced)
Owen's would transform into gas-form, to avoid their stinging. Physical hits will go right through. He would use his dissolve ability on them as they surround him (his only offensive attack without reliance, and ranged like telekinesis). Owen can flash step in Act 1 and his teleport range and capabilities expand though the series. An advanced Owen could rely on teleportation if something went amiss.
This might count as external source, but if he were in a location of extreme heat , over 10,000°, he could become plasma and melt them.

[SOLIDS, ] Evan Moriarty (advanced)

Hidden because lots of spoilers

Throughout the series he has the ability to calcify his bodily fluids into a solid material, indestructible like diamond. Saliva is his preferred method to craft shields, traps and melee weaponry but yep he could use his piss, snot and all the other gross ones too XD

A major spoiler is that The King of the Gods had a crush on a human woman eons ago and granted her eternal youth, but said woman got bored of her immortality, got busy with God of Death and birthed Evan. So his immunities improve when his demon inherited powers awaken in 2nd Act. Also means Evan and Owen are half-brothers

The slash em up method
In Act 1, in his un-awakened, human form get his butt stung if he plans to go the ol'slash em up style, but if he was sweating during his encounter with them, he could quickly calcify the sweat on his body as a protective layer against their stings. However his joints and eyes would have to remain bare for mobility. It may be a start to your bee powered armor but he may not bee so lucky with his for mobility XD
In his Act 1 state, a huge number of bees 10k plus bees could wear him out at some point in battle and disorient him.

In 2nd Act mid-latter portion, his demon abilities awaken and his tolerance to pain, stamina and speed improves tenfold. He could withstand the Bees' stinging and slash them up with his saliva based swords & daggers, plus lightning speed for high evasion and power.
His true enemies are God-level beings, some could create swarms themselves of animals deadlier than bees, so a ginormous swarm of bees would be nothing at that point.

Around 3rd Act, he also acquires the ability to transform his body into liquid so he can transform into a blob of liquid with acidic properties and melt them, similar to Xun (his mentor). Alternatively he could transform into the liquid at 1st engulf the bees and quickly transform himself into a solid mass to squash them.

If the bees were not instantly attacking and he had time to prepare, he could rely on his Quasi-solid abilities, allowing him to lay out explosive bubbles or spit out gelatinous blobs to use as sticky traps. Explosive bubbles would explode on the bees as they make contact so he could make a mine field (see the bubbles in image above). Sticky traps would be laborious and nonsensical as he would have to make a trap large enough to throw on them like a net or spit out tons of sticky blobs to throw at them, but once the bees attack he won't have time to keep spitting and tossing sticky blobs.

[LIQUID] Xun
Unlike the brothers, he starts with combat knowledge and greater mastery of his abilities. Xun could transform into liquid (fully and partially) to either drown them or slap them away in a prehensile form. He can also change into an acidic state, melting them in the process.

The brothers and Xun are asymptomatic carriers of an instant acting virus:
Bees would be immune because the virus infects mammalian based life or those with mammalian qualities. The infected become Xynous (think zombie version of animal). So on the plus side, the bees will remain bees and not transform into super-monster bees.

Usually my OCs fail miserably at these, but I think Gen might actually stand a chance this time. :grinning:

He’d get stung (a lot), but if Genii gets overwhelmed the God Stone in his hand has a few failsafes. He’d most likely cower then release a powerful telekinetic blast. In canon it can knock back people and swarms of undead, so I think (if they’re ordinary) it might kill the bees.

Bellah would try to hop away and find a body of water.

Erras would just sigh with a resigned look on his face. Bonus points if Gen is responsible for this beegeddon. :unamused::bee:

None of my characters have powers or carry much in the way of weapons. It would not go well for them.

Andy: he carries some gadgets, but nothing with the area of effect needed to take out 10,000 bees (screwed)
Carolina: is almost certainly responsible for the swarm (screwed)
Joseph: if Carolina didn't cause it, he did (screwed)
Enkal: at first i thought he might be able to run away, but it turns out that bees can fly at 20 mph and even if his species is somewhat faster than humans I don't think he could maintain that kind of speed for long (mega-screwed)
Sybil-3: she's made of metal so she's technically immune to being stung, but she couldn't really do much to the bees either (stalemate?)

It is fascinating the number of characters who are very competent in their own right, but are completely undone by ten thousand bees.