That is essentially what this is. The Prime and Secondaries are all treated functionally the same I just have them divvied for organization. It could be exactly this but just with more options, I just figured boiling it down would make it easier to find what you're looking for or filter out what you aren't.
I believe this to be a misconception of how stories work. The world details could easily be translated to a real-world version. This takes some bearing with me.
Yes in fantasy things that are impossible in our world become possible but that doesn't change the nature of themes of the story. Most fantasies use this world-difference to highlight issues with our own world. Lord of the Rings for example, you can easily swap the fantasy races with real world ones, make the ring some sort of tempting but dangerous weapon like, I dunno, the button to a nuke, and make the Orcs part of some radical warring cult. obviously this is less interesting but you could make the same story with the same themes without the fantasy elements. Thus my reasoning.
Yes it seems my naming scheme is ruffling feathers. I'm going to make an edit.
I think the major issue with this is a fundamental misunderstanding of what a genre is and why they're important if you think action and adventure are 2 categories and sci-fi/fantasy is on. You're not using "genres" you're using "what I deem to be categories".
And also a fundamental misunderstanding of how Tapas' categories work. BL got seperated out from Romance because it was a huge category. Fantasy is likewise, huge and sci-fi isn't tiny. They would never combine them any more than they would put BL back into Romance.
Yes, fantasy and sci-fi can be used as metaphors to talk about real life issues... but if you were to swap everything with a real life equivalent, can you even call the thing "fantasy" or "science-fiction" anymore? XD
As @HGohwell said, genres are there for a reason, and so far what you have expressed sounds more like your own personal opinion about how to categorize a story rather than anything based on how genre categorization in literature/comics actually works.
You wouldn't and that's exactly my point. That sci-fi and fantasy dependent on the aesthetic and not the story itself.
Yes this is based on my understanding of how I think Genres should would. I believe we were limited by the order in which genres appeared in history and because we didn't have computers when libraries first existed so organization was far more difficult.
BUT I've posted a new version above so please check it out. This should negate my opinions on genre and focus on the search needs of the readers and creators.
..I mean, I dunno how else to say it. You have a very roundabout way of explaining things, man. You make it sound like there wouldn't genres, but a category of genres.. But then you can select from a long list of genres to further clarify what we wanna search for. That long list is techincally what we're already doing, so it just sounds needlessly more complicated than it has to be for a future change. So there's that. On a seperate note, I don't agree with conjuctions of Sci-fi/Fantasy and what sounds like Romance/BL/GL either. Why? Just.. Why? They've already been recognized as seperate things here, we'd just be going backwards.
Also, none of these ideas have any visual examples either, so that's not helping either lmao I'm trying to understand, but it's all convoluted the way I try to imagine actually using it, and I would hate if that system I imagined is what we end up working with in the future
I understand. I figured this would be easier to grasp on paper and I considered visual aids but my main fault seems to have been trying to divide things into Primary and Secondary and that caused pretty much everyone's issues in the comments so there is a NEW version above in the original post that loses that part and hopefully explains it clearer.
Let me know what you think.
That definitely seems like a much better way of doing it. (Also, it should be noted we already have a pick three and tell us which is the main genre system in place on Tapas). But yeah, more genres is what most of us want and a shopping style filter seems like a much better plan.
And for reference as to how huge genres are and how they're normal categories and sub categorized:
And to clear up any misunderstandings: genres are not for the us as creators, but for readers to find what they want. This is why you rubbed people the wrong way with the assertion scifi/fantasy is the same thing - because it's not about the creator's view, it's about the reader and the reader doesn't want real world or scifi when they're looking for fantasy. (I know you've rewritten the post, I'm just explaining why it's annoyed people.) And this is why the shopping filter style works better.
If it's gonna be more like shopping filters then, that sounds much better! There's room for improvement though. Like a lot of room.
First off. That massive list of genres. Way more overwhelming than I'd like it to be. And non-aphabeltical too? Bad. Ok, so let's keep the same genres we currently use, and give us the ability to look up 3 genres at once. (Maybe add Anthology for @skicoak , bc that's his jam.) I do think Anthology should be it's own actual thing since it's not tied down to a specific genre.
Along with looking up genres, let's add tags into the mix. So these are where the leftover genres in your list would go, but with a much wider span of content to look up. The genre-specific tags are the default options, but you'll be able to type out whatever. You could look up tags on their own already, but you still had to filter through the genres from there.. This would fix that.
Subscriber numbers.. Could be narrowed down further. Maybe by the milestones and just typing a specific number.
Format's a neat addition, but let's add color too. Give options for full color, black and white, monochrome, limited palette.. Maybe some others options well?
Let's also add completion status? On-going, Completed, On Hiatus, Cancelled. It'd be nice to know beforehand about how the story's going. If it's even gonna continue..
On a similar note, we gotta add Episode Numbers. 1, 5, 10, 25, 50, 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 400, 500, 500+, and.. Just plain typing a number in!
Language? For the accessibility, man. There's users here who go out their way to translate their content to a different language alongside their english version, no reason to leave em out.
And we can't forget about free and premium. Make check boxes of those too. And if you check premium, have additional qualifier for ink paid per episode. 100-150, 150-200, 200-250, 250-300, etc..
In short.. Filtering by Genres, Tags, Format, Color, Completion Status, Episodes, Subscribers, Language, Free, Premium, Ink per Episode. Go big or go home, lol
This is a really cool one. And if we're going all out with things they're never gonna do, to add to this a system to mark as hiatus and say when it's expected back would be cool. Like a hiatus notice. Expected back in a month or three months or unknown. That way I know if they're maybe just doing exams and definitely will come back (I often hiatus in the winter because my job gets super over the top with 12hour shifts and 7 day working weeks at Christmas) or if its just a burn out "yeah I'll get back to it eventually" which is less promising.