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Sep 2020

I don't know if this is the right place to talk about this, but I need to talk to people who don't know me so here I go:
I'm depressed, as in I-medically-receive-help-for-it kind of depressed. As you may or may not know, this means my creative side likes to hide from me a bit too much and too often. I'm really frustrated and sad since it's something I apparently need to fight for the rest of my life.
Are you depressed as well? How do you fight it so you can get to your creative side?

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I've been literally thinking this EXACT same thing when I saw your post. I know my lastest bout with depression is stemming from exhaustion from my day job and the fact I don't have much to look forward to. My creative side is pretty much my only outlet for how I'm feeling. I just want to be apart of something deep and meaningful. I am so tired of feeling like I am in limbo

I get that so much it hurts. The problem is I have anxiety so I can't work either, adding onto the feeling of uselessness.

Oh, hey. Me, too. Anxiety and depression and I just want to stop existing. Creativity is gone. Everything seems like too much effort. I literally sat on the floor to eat earlier - two steps away from the kitchen chair. Currently unmedicated (long story) and it’s killing me :weary:

I am able to work with my anxiety, so that is a blessing. It just kills me that I don't have anything to look forward to. Like, so many young people in my area just marry their high school/college sweethearts and stay thirty minutes from their parents house. It's a nice area to raise a family, but I'm terrified of being here forever.

I'm considering decreasing the dose of the medication under control of my doctor. Maybe it would help if I allowed myself to feel sad and cry.

I can't do medication either. I was on a bunch of different anxiety meds during university and they made me really sick. Fortunately, I've been doing okay over the years. The isolation from COVID has been getting to me.

me i just try to think happy things and talking to someone.

It doesn't work perfectly, but my therapist got me onto routines. Even if it's just half an hour a day or a week, set aside that half an hour regularly and you start doing it naturally. It's 6.30pm that's creative half hour, and you start to get used to it.

Also saving all the little comments and accomplishments that make me happy. I have a folder full of them. Even little stupid comments so that when I hit the periods of no one cares, it's no good, why am I even bothering I should delete everything and vanish, I can look through and see the good things and try not to get too worked up.

And also reminding myself I don't have to be perfect and it's fine. (I literally have this printed off and stuck in the corner of my work computer for when I'm getting too wrapped up in my own head and seeing too many flaws).

Adequate is fine. I don't need to be perfect.

My stories give me something to do, but you know how it is when all the self-doubt and insecurity pops up.

Feeling sad and crying are really important. It’s not something I let myself do regularly, so I understand how hard that can be. I usually have to have some sort of a catalyst for it though. Do you have any movies that always make you cry? (I legit ugly cried after I read Me Before You - it was a good book, though!)

@cherrystark I’ve only been able to be on one specific one and it wasn’t the greatest for me.
Also, the town I grew up in was just like what you’re describing. It was terrifying to see people with no real aspirations and their only goal in life was to stay close to home :fearful: just remember, you don’t have to follow in their footsteps. My dad always told me and my siblings (in a very loving way), “would I like you to live next door? Yes. Do I think that’s healthy? No. I raised you to spread your wings and fly and I know you’ll do great things.” And honestly that’s been such a huge motivation for me as I moved away and did “crazy” things. Other people can waste their lives but no one else can force you to waste yours :heart:

@HGohwell I love that picture and I’m stealing that because I need that reminder regularly :smile: I miss my last therapist :sob: she was so amazing. Therapy is so underrated

It's a fantastic picture. It's from a yoghurt advert and I saw it and realised I definitely need that every now and again. Therapy is such a big help when you find the right therapist and are ready for it. I went through three different ones over several years before I was finally ready and found the right person. I spend a lot of my early therapy convinced it wasn't working and not even trying to give it a chance because I couldn't see how it could help. Just a few months got me from being unable to leave the house without full on crippling panic attacks to actually feeling sort of normal and mostly comfortable. It's so underrated much good it can really do even if it's not for everyone.

Was like that 20 years ago... small town lost between swamps and cow in French nowhere... no prospects... until I freaked out and followed a girl to uk on a hunch (she was charming, asking train ticket to London at train station). I had a rough project, but it was an excuse to just escape. Never saw that girl ever again, but that kicked out a journey.
Long story short, I’m now on the other side of earth, with a wife that like the same nasty things I like, a high rise office and a daughter. Never been easy (tried killing myself at some point, failed but I have ugly scars that fascinate kids at swimming pool), it still isn’t, and talking to people made me realize that it probably isn’t for anyone...
Always fighting doubts, so when things are too gloomy I go somewhere... run, take a bike, ride in whatever direction, and back... and if that aren’t cutting it, I made some comics strips to remind me that this is not a mindstate worth staying in... it was good creatively and it’s a strong reminder to myself of the point when I really need to bounce back...
so, not sure that helped anyone, but 1 it gets better, and worse, and better, but time polishes the edge, 2 it’s never easy, for anyone, 3 use your emotions to express that state... if it doesn’t fit your normal project, make a side project, that helped me analyse/expurge/go beyond that phase, and it’s a really really good reminder later...

I’ve had my fair share of not-fantastic therapists/not the right timing, but I think it’s (usually) helpful in at least some aspect. My last therapist was working with me on EMDR therapy and it was like freaking magic :scream: but I definitely hadn’t been ready for it until then.

@wocalichofficial I don’t know if any of these would be something you’re interested in, but the movies In Her Shoes, The Fault In Our Stars, and Marley are all good for crying :sob: I know there’s plenty of others, but those are ones off the top of my head. Sometimes songs work, too, but that’s usually triggered by something more specific for me. A page I follow on FB recently started doing “shouty Thursday” where you VENT YELL SOMETHING THAT’S FRUSTRATING AND IT IS HONESTLY SO SATISFYING IF YOU NEED TO GET SOMETHING OFF YOUR CHEST!! (My inbox is open if you want more privacy, too)

:heart: Thank you for sharing this with me. My mom told me something very similar. Moving to where I am hasn't been all bad. I was able to pay off my student loans and have a job where I can work from home, so I didn't lose my income. There is still hope for a better future, despite the thoughts in my brain.

Thank you. :slight_smile: I'm grateful that I found the forums and people to talk to. I still have dark days but I'm lightyears better than where I was ten years ago. A decade ago, I wasn't writing at all, hadn't ever completed a story and was beating myself up because I didn't think like other people. I later learned to own my mental health and have been on the path to recovery ever since.

I also remind myself too that I've got a future family to look forward too.

Paying off student loans is AMAZING!!!! I know how insane that can be!!! :scream: :hype_01: and working from home (other than the isolation factor) is really good for right now! It sounds like your mom is supportive of you and your goals :heart:

My mom is great. She doesn't understand why I post my writing online but she's more than happy to listen when I want to talk about the milestones I reached.

Haah yeah, probably. I was seeing a Psychologist for few weeks to help me deal with my social anxiety long enough to do a board interview (a military interview, 100x worse than a civilian one.), and we got far enough to start talking about depression along with the the possibility that I may have been in a dark place for a really long time now. Buuuut then she moved across the country, and I discharged from the military, leaving me with no insurance and or good income. Lol

Honestly I'm probably not the best person to post here, I've become pretty used to being down, to the point it doesn't really affect my life anymore. It's just sort of there, and now a part of my personality I guess. Although the things that have given me a sense of catharsis is delving into horror and tragedy, it feels nice for me to expose and explore my awful feelings through awful stories/art. I grew up watching horror movies, as a teen I drew gore to help get out my frustrations with my chaotic hormones and feeling bad, now that I've chilled out I'm venting my experiences and feelings via a comic.

I guess in short, the thing that has helped me be able to stay creative is using my art to vent those feelings. Not only has it helped when I couldn't afford to get professional help (nor when I was comfortable with the idea.), but it keeps the creative juices flowing.
Good luck! I hope you are able to get place soon!

Me too, I get depressed for long periods of times and it will be like this for the rest of my life. Fortunately I have been in treatment for years and now I know the signs. I used to blame myself for being lazy but now I know it's a condition.

Since this apathy is part of the illness it's normal to get stuck creatively. What helped me a lot is to exercise with music that is inspiring for my comic or the project I want to think about. I just let myself go. Other than that I don't by get more creative until the serotonin starts doing it's work. In general I try to not pressure myself and let my brain heal because I tend to be super harsh.

I send you all a huge hug, stay strong :heart:

I should be more depressed than I am given my mood disorder, i'm surprised I don't feel like i'm dead inside. I'm stuck unemployed living in an unhealthy family situation. I really hope I find a job and move out, I think that will give me peace. I honestly would rather just cut ties with them than do one of the pointless "oh they weren't that bad" spiels, cause forgiveness and connection just causes you to normalize their behavior and think they'll change.

Been there. I like to remember a quote from a former agent I had in the 1980s. "Don't f**k with creativity. It never comes when you want it to." :smiley:

I'm sad when people I know are depressed and I feel kind of helpless because there's really nothing I can do. But I CAN say, if you have people in your life who love you and care about you, whether friends or family or social acquaintences, you're never alone. And when you're not alone, you can get through anything. :heart:

I felt like that once last year yeah when I had creative block for 3 months and it was about solute torture for me. I couldn't write or draw anything so much so that i felt like i was going insane. i decided to go on a month hiatus because any further i would go crazier. There's always times to create and then there's where you need a break.

True, but it sucks to have to wait for the uncreative period to be over

Sending hugs and support to everyone here.

In terms of right now... I think it's important for everyone to remember that life is really, really difficult these days, wherever in the world you may live. We're in the middle of a pandemic. The environment is doing weird and terrifying things. Various democracies are doing weird and terrifying things. Every day is a new flip of the coin.

And that means that it's more important than ever to be kind and gentle with yourself. At this point, our one job is just to survive this time as well as we can manage. We need to allow ourselves a lot of grace. We need to rest more. We need to make an effort to spend time doing the things that can make us a little bit happy, even if it's only for a short time. Treating ourselves the same way we would treat a struggling friend or family member -- with compassion -- should be the top priority.

(Brought to you by a woman who just had a small panic attack about the 2020 U.S. election and spent two-and-a-half hours hashing out all the feelings with a friend.)

Hitting random (or the big!) milestones is the best!! :smile: and I’m really glad she’s there for you :heart:

This is so real :fearful: * cries in veteran *

Totally here for this :joy: :sob:

@elisabeth_ist thank you for your pep talk :heart: I honestly really needed to hear (read) this today. I also have anxiety (yay :rolling_eyes:) and paired with depression plus several really freaking hard years has made this year seem impossible to deal with at some points.

But also. STAY TF OFF OF TWITTER UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION :tired_face: :sob: please! Or at least hardcore limit yourself! I almost always have to go on a social media blackout the month before elections because it spikes my anxiety so badly :cry:

True, it does suck if you do try to push yourself too much you too will go insane. But once the wait is over the flow of creativity will come back to you slowly or in full throttle and you'll be creating nonstop.

I’m not sure if creative people get more depressed than others. But from my perspective, it is a state of mind that comes with.

I feel it is a Yin and Yang. Maybe it is like athletes, you can't run all the time without hurting your muscles.
Me, I use my muscle called the brain, and I can't be creative all the time without burning out. And with that comes depression.

I live with this all the time. I know that the sun will shine after the rain. I know I will burn out and I know depression will pass and I will be back in the game.

I just need to focus on the positive side of life. When I’m down I look forward to when it is over and not focus on the pain, if I do that I will only stay longer in the depression.

Me too. On medication at the moment: Sertraline and Mirtazapine. Since then I work on my comic. I have not drawn for 30 years. I know what I am drawing from. From life experiences and from the view of a scientist

I am depressed... all the time honestly, but when it's particularly bad (like recently) my creativity just turns off, and the only activities my brain will kindly allow are crying and passing time with something that requires 0 mental effort. :joy: (eg. mindlessly scrolling social media, playing stupid games on my phone, aimless internet browsing)
I have pretty much no friends and my family either doesn't care or is even worse off so I can only count on myself for support and motivating myself, and of course it's super-reliable...
How do people even make vent art??? You don't become a different person, completely unable to do anything art-related, when your mood hits the "I wish I were dead" point???
The only thing I can do is try to make as much art as I can in between depressive episodes, but it's very easy to turn this short downtime into a longer artblock - I stop drawing for two days, I might as well stop it for life.

I was diagnosed with Major Depression when I was a 10, so it is sort of something I dealt with most of my life. I have had little luck with medication with some not working or causing really bad side effects.

I never found therapy helpful. I am poor so my selection is limited and most don’t have a good background knowledge to deal with someone like me.

What I mostly do is just keep myself distracted, so I don’t have to think about it. However, I think most of my depression is rooted in being lonely and feeling rejected from society. So I like to write about people finding connections and friends.

I can understand that...I am burnt out, but my creativity in many areas forces me to keep going until the next burnout. Creativity is elixir of life and death at the same time, a vicious circle. Not healthy, but I cannot get out of it. Every day that I do not learn or create anything is lost, I do not know how to relax. Sometimes I feel like invisible, everything breaks away, everyone goes away, a loneliness that only those who have severe depressions can understand

I feel you @mbindhammer I feel you.
I have the diagnose ADD (that's ADHD without the H) meaning that my brain is newer shutting down. I get meds and it helps me to not burn out that much.

Wish you the best.

Same to you. Like I wrote in my comic, episode "No filter". I have lost the ability to see the world through a filter. Everything collapses upon me unfiltered. I have a wife who loves me and a daughter, but I cannot stop the self-destruction. Maybe we should show our art here, which was created during such crises. That would interest me.

I don't have depression but I do have Schizoaffective which causes depressive episodes. I can empathize with you all because it can be hard. I'm a bit of the opposite where I retreat into my art and writing because I find it comforting. I've had people take advantage of my vulnerable states in the past to use me for various things and it hurts because I always just wanted friends and to share my stuff. That's all.

Luckily nowadays I have a close group of friends who I get to speak with almost every day. And I've been with the same boyo for over ten years. (He's not on here, but I love you, Mike! :heartbeat:) I did most of my suffering it feels like in middle school and high school lol. Back when everyone was catty and immature.