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Dec 2018

Hi guys ,
I need to ask you something ,

I have been published webtoon last year 2017 and i stopped for a few reasons out of control, I want to go back but my level of drawing has developed a lot before, and I feel very ashamed from my folowers because I left them waiting for a long time without any new .

my draw has changed. The story of the webtoon is not good enough as I see. I've learned a lot of new things. I want to redraw the chapter I published last year but better and according to the right Webtoon instructions, would you advise me to do that? I really feel ashamed and i need advice . :sweat:

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Everyone has to start from somewhere. :smiley: Don't be ashamed, be proud that you did it!

My old project "Darkbleeder26" (still onTapas) is the 3rd remade version.
The older versions are never published because I feel ashamed of those quality.
I had working on that project since 2013 until August 2018.

Then I decided to drop that project, and started a new one: "Alter Within: Ellis & Zayn14".
Surprisingly, the new one is the best project I have ever did! All the feedbacks are all good for now.
After 5 years of failure, I finally have a project that I'm truly happy to working on.

TL;DR: Keep learning and trying! Until you feel no shame to yourself anymore.

Making comic needs to be invested a lot of time, and a lot of learning and practice.
Also, stop comparing yourself to other. :smile: Learning is not a race.

I'm sort of in the same boat! I like to think of it as a good thing, that you're improving, learning, getting better! But yes, that leads to the beginning of the comic (the most important part!) not being as polished as you'd like. People do expect this a bit in webcomics, so it's not the end of the world even if you don't change it.

However, I do update the art and redraw old comics when I get the chance. I prioritize my regular posting schedule, so I'm not going to take anything on hiatus while I fix things, but when I've gotten time to redoing my old art, I'll just 'edit' the episode, both here and on webtoons, and then update it with the new art. I think Webtoons sends automatic notifications, but for Tapas I always click 'don't notify'. Then I don't feel bad about spamming someone just because I noticed a word was spelled wrong and fixed it.

I also keep a list of comics on my wall that need a total art overhaul, ....hmm there's 26 on there at the moment, not bad for a 190+ episode comic actually! If you chip away at it over time, it's not an overwhelming amount of work. Just keep at it! Everyone seems to confront this problem at some point or another, the comics that you see with consistent art styles from beginning to end are often from artists who have done SEVERAL comics before and have been in this business for 10+ years. It's a long game, @Draconic is right, this is not a speed race, it's a marathon. Just keep going!

I went though something very similar. It's still online! I started my webcomic, ran out of steam after 7 episodes, and had to completely re-think how I was making it. It took... three years (two and a half?), but I ended up posting episode 8 in the same series. The first 7 episodes of my comic are really embarrassing to me now, but that's just life. The readers don't seem to mind for me, personally. But I'm in a very different boat in terms of tone. I don't have a big story that I'm tying back to.

I'd say it depends how much you have done already. If it's just like 1 chapter, go ahead and redo it. If it's more than that I'd say just accept it for what it is and continue along. The thing is, as artists we're always improving so you'll always look back at old pages and think they're not as good as what you can do now. But if you give in and redo it every time you improve a little, it's easy to get sucked into the infinite redo loop. I suffered this with the comic I started writing in middle school xD I worked on and kept redoing it for like 10 years, all the way past college. It was only earlier this year that I dropped that comic altogether and started a new project to free myself from the baggage.

Even with this current comic, I look back at the first 8 or so pages I drew back in April (then I took a break) vs. the newer ones that I drew in September~now and think that they don't look nearly as good. But I'm more concerned with finishing the story than making all the pages gorgeous xD;; I might touch them up later when I finish (especially all the small details I missed... woops .-.), but for now they're good enough.

(side note, it may be worth converting them to webtoons vertical format tho even if you don't redo them. it's possible to like cut up a traditional page and lay it out on a vertical canvas panel by panel w/o redoing it all :>)

I hope maybe my experience might help, but I've been doing my current comic for about 8.5 years and I've battled my desire to redraw it constantly. I'm at a pretty okay place with it now but it's taken a lot of thought to get there.

City of Cards, my big project about 400+ pages and still going, isn't my first comic. My first big comic I started back in high school and I did redraw that first chapter at least twice because I kept learning and kept feeling like I could do better. While it DID help me learn, I never really made it beyond that first couple chapters because I was never happy and I kept wanting to start over. And in the end, that was okay.

Eventually that comic got dropped. I had other things in my life going on and eventually I found a new story I wanted to do even more. I was in art school at the time and did a test chapter before committing to that new comic to see if it was really something I felt like sticking with.

That comic that I started back then is the one I'm currently doing and have been doing since 2010. As much as I'd learned working on my first comic I STILL had so much more to learn. My work was never BAD but it never felt good enough and over the years I've probably redrawn about 80+ pages, not necessarily in order, because I was afraid that it not being the best I could do would keep people from reading my work. I had to remind myself and fight to make sure that all this redrawing didn't stop me from making new pages because I knew that if I was always redoing things the story would never move.

At this point, though, as much as I still don't always like looking back at my early chapters, I'm so far along now that it would kill any momentum I've built up to redraw eight years of work. I've also gotten enough feedback to know that I don't NEED to go back and edit things anymore. Sometimes that desire to fix things is more in our own heads than it is in the eyes of readers and that letting my growth show isn't a bad thing. I want artists to be proud of where they came and I love seeing my own favorite artists grow.

That said, I don't regret editing pages/panels. I don't regret having redrawn those initial chapters of my first comic. Editing isn't a bad thing, it allows us to analyze our decisions and figure out what actually works.

What you need to ask yourself is why are you editing your work. Is this your first project and it took you a year to figure out basic aspects of craft? Is it story editing and you realize now that you need to go back to make things more clear? Is your initial work hurting the readability of your story OR is it just that you feel like you've gotten better. Editing doesn't have to mean redo EVERYTHING, it can mean adding some pages here, tweaking a few panels there, getting feedback as you go.

If your story still works and it's just a matter of wanting it to look like your current skill level, really figure out how willing you are to do those edits versus letting it hold back your ability to progress on your story. It's also a good chance to sit down with people to talk through your comic to figure out what actually might be worth editing and what is actually okay.

Getting feedback helps a lot! A lot of stuff is just in our own heads and having outside voices talk us through our decisions can keep us from getting into bad places.

Good luck and I hope you figure out what works best for your story!

Great anecdote :> I'll just add to this too that, this is why people often recommend folks start out with some shorter projects rather than hopping right into a long form epic. It's easier to get through those growing pains as an artist on some 1-50 page stories, and get to the end before the desire to redo anything creeps in xD

Granted there's nothing inherently wrong with hopping right into a long series but... the temptation to redo becomes stronger, I'd imagine. I've just started "comic-ing" this year and opted for the short stories first approach (after falling into the redo trap that I mentioned in my original reply xD... for 10 years :cold_sweat: )

At this point, though, as much as I still don't always like looking back at my early chapters, I'm so far along now that it would kill any momentum I've built up to redraw eight years of work.

I liked this phrase very much,
thank you I will take everything you say into consideration .:blush:

You're right, I think the continuation for now is better than the return.
Thank you ^^

OMG hhhhhh !
I have this kind of thinking too , like keeping a 10 year old story and repeating it over and over! I have had one since 2008 and I'm still obsessed with reformulating it better every time.
You're right, we should not stay stuck in the same story as well.

Thank you for your advice, I'll take it into consideration
I started reading both of your works of art, in fact I loved reading them from the first impression it fun, I encourage you to continue :clap: :muscle:

this is not a speed race, it's a marathon

Thank you very much, I will take your advice and continue

2007 for mine haha same boat! It's been really liberating working on something fresh tbh. I'm open to the possibility to returning to my old story later on, but I've decided I need to be a lot faster at drawing first for how long it is (and it also needs serious rewriting xD) I've decided to work on other projects in the meantime... if i get back to that story someday, awesome! And if not, it provided years of fun memories (and is a great tool to track my drawing evolution with)

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As a reader on webtoons, and my general experence when a webtoon restarts, your long time subscribers dislike when they have to leave an old discover comic to find your new one. There is a limit to how many discover comics you can sub to, so if a comic I wasn't that invested in moves, I just unsub and don't find the new one. It sounds harsh, but I am constantly finding new discover comics and having to unsub to old ones anyways. If there was no limit, I would sub to every comic I somewhat enjoyed.

That's why I have two accounts. One for the finished/on hiatus webtoons, and another for the ongoing ones.