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If someone references some of the character (poses or clothing) from a famous artist or company because he got inspired by them. But his story is very much original .. Will you get turned of because you believe it's a ripoff due to d pose and or clothing style of d character or will you go read his work

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Pretty much everybody references other people's art sometimes. As long as you're not straight-up copying and it's not something super obvious like a buff green guy with purple shorts, probably most people will not even notice.

I agree with A_Toad! There is no such this as an original story, everything is inspired by something! If it is too similar, or too obviously referencing a famous story, consider changing it to make it your own. While referencing something famous visually can add comedic value (like an inside joke with your readers!) using something famous in the design of a recurring or important character can feel overdone or uninspired.

Think about what you like most about the poses or the clothing in the famous story. Does it have an eye catching color scheme? Does it use dynamic shapes? Does the pose or clothing help convey something about your character, like their job, personality, or something they like? Etc.

Also think about your character. What would your character wear if they were a real person? If they are cold or insecure, they might cover up more and wear layers. If they are bold, their clothes will stick out! If they do a hard job, maybe their clothes will be worn out or dirty. How can you take what you like from the famous story and incorporate that into what your character would like to wear?

I hope this helps, and best of luck!!

People are pretty media-literate these days so there's a chance the homage will be noticed. I think you could try to be more original with your poses for the most part but all things considered every piece of clothing your going to see on most people is made by a company anyway. So you're only lifting from what happens in the everyday world anyhow.

I think the most KH's thing about it are the dangly metal bits coming off the jacket's front. Change them or delete them altogether and none would be the wiser to your inspiration.

Pretty immediately I recognized the cloak as that of org 13! I was really deep into KH a million years ago when I was a kid. What gave it away most, however, were the chains and the shape of the dangly pointy bits on them.

Perhaps you can alter the design of the robe more to suit the world your character is in? A small change could be adding a subtle dragon wing or skull in place of the pointy bit on the chains, and a bigger change could be perhaps changing the silhouette of the robe, such as slimmer sleeves or added layers.

If they are dealing with dragons directly, perhaps they might need heat protection?
If they are not directly dealing with dragons, and generally only interact with them as dieties, perhaps the dragons or fire are a popular/fitting decorative element?

Thank you all for your Answers I really appreciate it .. Time to head back to the drawing board..

I was reading the case of a mangaka who lost her credibility and basically destroyed her career for using poses from other mangas :neutral_face: I guess people will not get mad if it is clearly a tribute and you say so, but if you use the clothes for your oc and the poses for your comic people will go crazy. Nowadays there are so many self-appointed "internet detectives" that will find out if you copied.



dahell!!. This is outrageous, this is worst..
What I meant was. Taking his clothing style but posing will be.. Perhaps leaning on a table..

There was a similar case for the artist of No Game No Life. I think the big deal is that poses count as original content, whether from a photo or drawing. It's illegal to use someone else's as a reference and earn money from your work.

Huh. I've never heard of this, but I have to say- as someone who doesn't read manga all that extensively, it just seems a little- odd? Looking at these covers I could swear I've seen the poses and composition on them replicated by many different artists. The girl with flowers and young man resting against a smaller woman's lap- both of these seem like very popular choices to me while browsing the shoujo manga section at a local comic shop, much like western superhero comics tend to replicate certain types of poses and angles in their covers. I guess I just wonder where the line is drawn? At what point are the poses considered a copy, given that there are certain poses the human body naturally gravitates towards and look good as a composition? I mean...it's not that I can't see the similarities in the examples you've provided, but at the risk of sounding ignorant- does this kind of thing typically cause a fuss?

I mean artists steal all the time, it becomes a problem when you are trying to pass something you didn't create as your own. But if what you're making is original and completely your own, regardless of what references it may allude to, you are fine, don't worry about it. However, let's say you make an original story and call it Spider-guy and it's about a teenager living in Los Angeles who gets bitten by a spider then that's pushing it A LOT, you know? So if your story/characters are not complete carbon copies of something that already exists you'll be fine.

This is what I mean by carbon copy. You can use other people's works as references but when you can literally trace the images over it becomes a big no no. You can have pictures that are similar but never trace.

i have a massive ref on my chapter 2 title card, it refs both the clothes and pose of the original but i didn't out right trace it

@yozhikisblue Oh yeah!! Definitely, there are common areas and poses. I mean art is so saturated that someone somewhere must have thought about your idea before. I have dumped to the trash some drawings that I made 8 years ago that now resemble a popular manga covers...I made them first but people will accuse me of stealing from a popular artist. Honestly, I give people the benefit of the doubt when they are accused of stealing because accidental similarities happen.
Also, we can't ignore that trends exist. Like in the 90's posters in which all characters were distributed in a V. Shojo manga has pastels and flowers randomly flying around. Sometimes the line is blurred. This mangaka in the example got caught because she stole covers from the same artists all the time. Clamp is pretty famous but if she had copied from smaller publications people wouldn't have noticed. Also, Clamp published those before the others ..yes we can say they own that composition.

But usually, art thieves get caught because they do it constantly.
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- Their art is a carbon copy that is impossible to ignore. For example the cover with the girl and the flowers. The image is traced from the original cover. We might find lots of covers that have the same idea. But is incredibly unlikely two people make the exact same.


Exactly @BobbyjoeXforgotensb you clearly made a tribute cover inspired in a music album but I don't think some would ever say is a copy.