It says ink reimbursement. You cannot reimburse with a lower grade product if you are an honest company. It's bad enough that there is an expiry date, even worse if it was bonus ink from the beginning. We are now discussing whether Tapas started scamming us only this year, or many years ago
I still think it is more likely it was expiring normal ink.
for the old inskgiving events ink was returned as regular ink but iirc it did have an expiry though i don't recall why but it may show up with an expiry now based on whatever tapas new back-end system may be since the site overhaul
the change for it to now be bonus ink is disappointing but not that surprising. it's possible events like these may have run tapas at a deficit or something (and lets not forget that tapas does need it's profits) so their way of making up for it is having folks use bonus ink on the premium or early access series which puts money back into their pockets
again it def sucks because rather than folks being able to give to any creator of their choosing it's now a limited pool of premium + early access comics and since their the big rats that make all the rules we've no choice but to follow suit or go elsewhere
i'd say for folks who are able give to ko-fis/patreons if you can or reshare stuff on social media. as for response to tapas it's basically the same as any other time people have any gripes with a company (boycotting, rescinding financial support, voicing issues/complaints in a more public place or taking work/business elsewhere)
like call me pessimistic but at the end of the day business is gonna do what business is gonna do whether people like it or not and sometimes the peoples response does things to change those decisions and other times it's just a drop of water in a big ocean so you either go with the flow or try harder to make waves
And taking it a step further -- just give more likes, comments, and help promote the stories you like. The webcomics community has always thrived on doing these things (long before hositing sites became a big deal), so I'm confused as to why that would suddenly be stopped or slowed down.
I just find other ways to support the creators I like, especially if they have completed series. I would rather promote the stuff I wanna see more of and make a big stink than wait around and hope someone does it for me. And that's just in general.
Ink is only one way to give support. And as you can see on Tapas (and as I've seen since 2017), people crave audience interaction. So if you haven't gone through and given any recent links or comments, maybe now's the time.
I'm saying this without the mod hat on. I'm saying this as someone who struggled with getting more people to interact since 2017. If you can't give ink, at least give more links, comments, and help promote your peers.
And a lot of us here already do that, so this is not geared towards the usual people.
As a self employed person, I get that.
But the issue is that they promoted the event as a community event, and then veered on another course, dissimulating and lying in the process. And it is not the first time. It seems to be the usual way to go for them, now.
It's a very cowardly way to avoid big backlash, exodus etc. The alternative being stopping all community events and focussing overtly on their only actual focus, Premiums.
Every person speaking against this kind of way to do business is helping. Yes, sometimes businesses may have to stop providing a service to part of their customers to refocus on more profitable ones. But there is no justification for the lies, fake reassurances immediately followed by backstabbings, and borderline scammy moves.
That attitude of not caring at all about the community creators BUT being apparently terrified of losing them, is not very professional imo.
i wholeheartedly agree but i think in terms of response the best course of action are the things jenny mentioned above along with the quote
like for folks who've been here a long time we've seen this decline with tapas so from my perspective or rather in my own opinion it's merely a matter of time before it al comes back to bite them in the ass. like i want to see community creators do well it's something we've been vocal about or tried to be for years but tapas has kept on trucking with their current pathways and we see where and how it's leading them so i guess the only thing to get them to pay attention will be the resulting consequences of their misleading and deceptions
I was angry this morning after knowing that the rebate inks are in bonus form.
But I found a way to support authors that I truly enjoy... the MATURE content authors!
Since I only enjoy Early Access for Lord Have Mercy, the next place I dump my bonus inks is Yona by DarkBox. Hope he would come back to Tapas and cash in those inks.
Overall, I'm still a little unhappy about the bonus ink though. I thought I would be able to support independent authors who I really enjoy reading. I'm just dislike spending it on Premiums and other Early Access works that I don't like.
Not gonna lie, I wasn't really that surprised when it was revealed that the ink we're getting back was bonus ink. Tapas has gotten a huge surge in readers over the past year and Tapas has also gotten acquired by Kakao entertainment. Not sure if it was their parent company that made them change it, but I feel like they thought it would be a good marketing move. Since so many readers got bonus ink from Inksgiving this year, they're kind of forced to read and unlock premium comics (Which are mostly Korean and Chinese translations) in order to use up your ink. Bonus ink also has a fee on it as well I'm pretty sure, meaning Tapas would take something like 30% (an estimate) of it when you use it to unlock a chapter and with how much ink was donated this year, Tapas would've have to give back $9.6k worth of ink, which wouldn't be that profitable. I'm not trying to defend Tapas, just saying why I thought they might've done this
Also for the fees when cashing out, Tapas is actually not that bad
Yes Tapas does take a 30% cut on App Store purchases, but that's because the app stores themselves, (Apple and Google Play) takes a 30% cut.
For web purchases the fees are 15% which I do think is a bit high, but let's just move on from that
Tapas doesn't take any fees at all from the ink you get for watching ads and completing offers, which I really appreciate
Lastly, (Ik I've been writing a lot) Tapas reward rates for their offer walls is actually the highest out of all the other English Translation companies out there. (I read a ton of Manhwas and Manhuas, which is why I know)
For example, Tapas holds many 2x and 1.5x ink doublers throughout the year for their Tapjoy Offerwall and the overall reward rate is higher too (Typically 70% higher than Tappytoon and Lezhin)
For the offer, downloading the app Pluto Tv, Tappytoon rewards you 1000 points (Which works the same as ink, 300 pts to unlock an episode) and Tapas rewards you with 1,700 ink for the same offer.
(Tapas is also holding a 2x ink doubler event for their offerwall right now, so now's a good time to stock up on same ink and for these sort of events, Tapas is paying out of their own pocket to give out the 2x ink, which is really generous of them)
One very last thing, comparing Tapas to other sites, Webtoon, TappyToon, Lezhin, Webcomics, etc, I defintely have to say that Tapas is the best option out of all of them, this includes the staff, the community, the reader experience, the fees, the reward rates, free ink, the creator tools (Scheduling episodes, viewing your stats, etc), and more.
I'm sorry if I was biased here, but I like the Tapas platform and I don't mind reading "Reincarnated in another world as a stylish pair of pants and also being bought at a fantasy world's Old Navy for a reasonable price to be worn by a villainess who is also me" I just like these generic tropes for some reason
Oh dear, after series of unfortunate events on Tapas, then again on Tapas Discord, I am consider searching for alternative. But I still have some fav authors only publish on Tapas.
The question is... sorry, a bit off-topic here... but that's the point right? it's on the Off-topic section..
Are the moderators over Tapas Discord plays some role in the company itself?
Also the moderators at forum, are they the same team?
Are the forum gonna be removed and permanently be on Discord?
I simply wanna find out.