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Probably not. One often hears mixed reports about Webtoon.

No, because i have a full time job so squeezing, what, 60 panels a week on top of that sounds like a nightmare for my shoulders. Plus then I'd worry that what if i run out of ideas while deadlines are approaching etc. It's much more relaxed just to work on my comic at my own pace and take breaks whenever i want/need.

well if I even was legal age to get contracted by Webtoon I wouldn't take it because if I posted in several places I think I would even get more money out of ad revenue than the low salary that webtoon provides and plus I can publish whatever content I want without restrictions of gore and stuff, and in my own time rate, and with webtoon the company itself put lots of pressure to modify the story or prolonge it to the follow standards

And the salary, sure some creators get over 100,000 a year but if your series isnt as succesful you can get as little as 10,000

No, it's stated by some creators their basic salary is 2K\month and that's without any ads or anything.
The problem starts when they need to get a few assistants and they pay for the help themselves.

I did it before and I would not do it again!

Nope. The amount of money they pay for featured comics/webcomics is not worth it to me...right now I'd say that I make a lot more with my current FT gig than I would if I worked on webcomics full time.

The extra revenue comes in from sales & stuff outside of working on the comic(like streaming, P*treon, and commissions); I'm pretty sure there are cases where so-n-so's comic might be popular, but they aren't making the outside revenue...

I would. A minimum salary of 2k per months seems low, but if my webtoon becomes successful, I might be able to live a comfortable life off making webtoons.

I'm only a student, so financial stability isn't my top priority. I'd hire assistants to meet the weekly quota if I have to, many featured webtoon creators have assistants anyways.

I heard webtoon is very understanding in letting their creators go on hiatus, so I could take a break whenever I feel too stressed or if anything happened that would delay my webtoon.

Yeah, I already have a full time job, and not great baseline health, but I would love to spent more time creating so would consider accepting. My stories already tend to be longform, so what I'd need would be
-Enough to pay assistants to keep work doable
or
-Enough to quit my job and go all in

On webtoon? We'd probably not agree on the contract just because my style isn't really meant to be at that output and I don't have enough following to prove that I can still get the page views anyway. If it were an early access non-exclusive thing with Tapas? Sure. I already have a huge buffer, I can do things three episodes ahead. But overall, I can't say yes or no, because when you do a contract agreement, it's a lot of back and forth and negotiating. I've heard some creators talk about how they work up to 60 panels a week, and I've heard other's say they negotiated down to 30 every other (which is like...I could easily do that). It really depends on what you can get for your salary, your rights, and all of that.

For right now I'm just focusing on trying to build an audience, because without that, I'm not going to be approached by nobody, youknow :wink:

Hmmm….the earning seems to vary very wildly from what I gather. From news articles i’ve seen the average korean authors get around 200k per year last year or two years ago I forgot. Some top titles get millions and the top title gets upwards of 10 millions. But the keyword is it varies wildly. So I’d assume that some people would be struggling to get an assistant or two while the top creators make millions. I don’t know if I’d take the offer and take the gamble since my style is kind of time consuming right now and I’m scared if they don’t guarantee assistants for me lol. Base salary is so low it’s not that reassuring.

I would love to take the opportunity, but I’m a full time High School student, who is taking College classes, as well as babysitting.

Since there seems to be a mandate of 1 episode per week that has 40-60 panels, I don’t think I could whip something up that quickly and good quality!

Well, I was approached to pitch a series to be a Featured one. Personally speaking, I wasn't what they were looking for but they told me "If your series becomes popular, we'll come back to you! We encourage you to publish it on Canvas!". However I believe they didn't actually care about my pitch since they first mistook the name of the Series for 2 another ones I worked on but never mentioned to them, as well for the fact they ignored the main focus of the series and only cared that "Comedies aren't really popular on the platform" (But my story was not a comedy, it was a Urban Fantasy :neutral_face:)

Back then, they were launching Webtoon Spanish so they wanted "series oriented to Gen Z to appeal the latinamerican cultures" So I based my story on Argentina, focused on a teenager girl who was going through the phase of discovering her identity, what she wanted to do once she finished high-school, working part-time for her brother at his Pizzería and on top of that, supernatural creatures (From latinamerican mythology) living among the human society. Basically I wanted to make a drama involving leaving the comfort bubble of childhood to enter adulthood, and the crash of said worlds and perspective. :sweat_smile:

Usually, webcomic making specially on Webtoon has a long period of backlog making so you won't have to do weekly episodes of 40 panels with a short deadline. Usually, they work with artists and authors for nearly a year with preparation before starting publishing the series as I've seen some of Spanish authors that became Originals delaying their debuts at least twice. This is according to other people who became Featured authors, but obviously, if your series doesn't meet the criteria it can be cancelled at any time or become a 40 episode story at least, you're not only being paid by the amount of panels but by viewership if I recall correctly but these "plus"s are only added to the later episodes, not the first ones. Webtoon has this thing that they need each episode to end up in a cliffhanger and their formula it's always pretty much vanilla when it comes to plots when it's not an action/adventure/suspense story and yes, they stretch it a lot and fill in between.

A lot of Canvas Authors actually reject becoming Originals not only because they'll have to re-draw their series, simplify them, color them (Yes, grayscale or white & black webtoons are usually rejected) as well to modify the time pace of their story according to an editor but because they earn more money with Ad Revenue and their donation platforms than with what Webtoon would offer them on contracts. And of course, assistans/any additional help is payed solely by the author, be it colorists, background artists, secondary editors, letterist, etc.

I got contacted too to apply to be the artist for another of their pitched series but I rejected the work since even if they didn't provide me the name of the other author or the series, the plot alone was... too boring and vanilla to me, as well I already worked for a romance story so I didn't want to work for another one back then.

Right now I'm working on three different series, so I have my hands full, as well I like to have free time for myself be it to doodle my own stuff, make art for friends or simply taking naps. I'm not struggling in terms of money so that's also another reason.

I’be genuinely been thinking of trying to pitch to Tapas Premium or at least Studio Tapas but I’ve had trouble finding out more info on it. When it comes to how Webtoon works behind the scenes you can sort of hear rumblings through the grapevine about how it works (like that one thread on here by a featured Webtoon artist). I can’t seem to find that from any Tapas artists and, aside from Magical Boy, it seems like a lot of non-Korean Tapas Orginals / Studio Tapas / Premiums series haven’t finished/ are stuck on indefinite hiatuses.

Being featured is this sort of dream when you want it, but not really, lol. I mean, becoming famous and getting paid for what you do is amazing, but overworking, having strict rules about what and when you post sounds awful. I think they have to work on their system to award creators in a better way. For now it's either getting featured (which is almost impossible and requires you to be dedicated to it fully) or unlocking ad revenue (which awards you very poorly)

One thing I have found about Tapas from talking with a lot of premium creators privately is that a lot of the time, the best way to get a Tapas premium is honestly just to make a comic and focus on doing a polished job of it and building an audience on your own. Tapas do look for people who seem like they produce work to a reliably professional standard and regular schedule that captures the attention of the Tapas audience, and I think they also favour people who seem like go-getters in terms of marketing their own work.
People like that are more likely to get offered premium opportunities, and if you already have or have completed a popular comic on Tapas, they'll probably pay attention to a pitch and give more consideration to more unusual pitch concepts.

I feel like removing the 2000 subs requirement for pitching, while it technically makes sense to allow people whose following was elsewhere (ie. webtoon, print comics or social media), may have been misleading to a lot of people on Tapas. The chances of getting a pitch accepted seem pretty low if you don't have something comparable or close to that sort of following on some sort of platform with a similar audience to Tapas.
People maybe thought that the removal of the requirement was a sign that the company is willing to take a chance on less experienced creators who don't yet have much of a following, but realistically I feel like someone would need an absolutely killer pitch with really polished samples and a concept that sounds like a sure-fire win with the core Tapas audience to pull that off, because to Tapas as a company, investing in a pitch is a gamble. If the work is anything a bit more unusual, it'll be a lot easier to succeed if you've already shown them that you can bring in an audience on Tapas.

Basically, if you have under 1000 subs on Tapas, don't have a huge following elsewhere (like instagram or another webcomic platform) and you're thinking of pitching, I would only do it if the pitch is for something very "safe" ie. close in aesthetic and concept to things with proven popularity on Tapas and with a really strong elevator pitch. Always remember that when you're pitching, you're basically asking somebody to invest money into your product in the hope of a return. They're way more likely to do it if you've already proven that your products have a market/audience.

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