LINE Webtoon - Opinions?

[Aspie_Gamer]

Or are you actually changing the image/resolution size through the menu options to do so? (in Photoshop CS6, it's "Change Image Size", in Clip Studio Paint, it's "Change Image Resolution").

Well son of a B! Wouldn't you know it? That's just what I was not before. Never thought to change the image size of my pages that way. Thanks to your suggestion, my pages now look great over on LINE. Thanks a ton Baba-Ji's Husband.

[Sleepyowl]

Since I launched my Webcomic, I decided to put it up on Line webtoon to see how it would fare there.

It got only 7 subscribers so far and it's already at a 6, I'm going to guess the low ratings are because it only updates once a week. But I know the rating system is baloney so I'm going to simply ignore it.

I'll check back in a month or so to document the progress.

[tzuba12]

I think it might be because you're uploading a page at a time. I think with webtoons it would be better to upload multiple pages at a time 2 or 3 times a month.

I had my comic on tapastic long before I uploaded to webtoons, and I uploaded the prologue and half of the first chapter (up to the latest page at that point) and got a really good response since it was like 30+ pages at that point. Already got 87 subs in less than 3 weeks.

I'd say upload on tapastic until you have enough pages done, and then upload them all to webtoon at once.

[Sleepyowl]

That sounds like a good idea, but I only upload one page a week normally on every other site, so I'd only be able to upload once a month on webtoons, which would make me not eligible for their patreon pledge if my comic were to blow up over there.

I suppose I could upload 2 pages every 2 weeks or so?

[nerosmoke]

At worst you take it down if it is featured.

[60Six]

Hey! So once again, more of a question than an opinion, but I didn't want to make a whole thread because I feel like this has been answered before and I just can't find it..

So I never actually...look at the front page of Webtoons, so I was really pleasantly surprised to find my own comic in the Line Webtoons Discover. Which is really cool! ...But how did it get there? : D Is it basically like a staff pick thing like on Tapastic or is there some statistic of numbers that gets these picked (I know my latest update was definitely my most successful in terms of feed back).
Just curious!

[UzukiCheverie]

Do you mean like, on the front page of Discover? The Discover section is just where people who aren't contracted with LINE post their comics. So, the front "featured" section of LINE (where you land when you go to the standard URL) is where the comics are from artists who are paid by LINE, and the Discover section is for artists who are just uploading their work like on any other platform (like Tapastic, SmackJeeves, etc.) It was formerly called the "Challenge League", and it was where people uploaded their work with the hopes of being seen by LINE and being picked for the Featured section. It still technically is that but it's much less competition-oriented now that it's been changed to more of a "Discover" section for new comics that aren't part of the featured line.

If you were on the front page of the Discover section though (in the little roulette selection or whatever), then I would have no idea what that's based on, you'd have to ask the people that run LINE

[60Six]

I'm referring to this!

I'm assuming this is the "discover section" you're talking about right? If so, I guess it's a mystery for now!

[elixiadragmire]

Ah the weekly round up, I think that's algorithm based?

[scythe]

I'm of the opinion that both the weekly roundup and the recommended titles selections are manually curated. The recommended titles selection definitely is, 100%.

[AffectedMind]

However, my rating is kinda low and I think I know exactly why.

LINE Webtoon is more specifically for webtoons, and webtoons are the very long pages that are all connected (Up-Down).

My comic is black and white, print format and it's doing great. It's true that people there prefer scroll format colored comics, but I don't think it's the reason of the downvotes.

[DavidDaneman]

Fascinating conversation you've started here.

[DavidDaneman]

I think that the Discover section is editor's choice.

[Aspie_Gamer]

Saw this when I checked my dashboard over on LINE Webtoon just now. Guess its true what's been said about LINE's rating system huh?

Personally, I view LINE's rating system the same way I do fan/general audience ratings on movie sites like Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB. Particularly, I'm into comic book movies (and this year has been HUGE for the genre as a whole.) since that's what I like being an aspie and all. Anyway, the two biggest releases this year has been Warner Bros Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and Marvel Studio's Captain America: Civil War. Predictably, one movie did well and the other not so much. (though I think we were all stunned when BvS got less than thirty percent on RT) As a result, fanboys, not fans, fan boys started downvoting the hell out of Civil War (and this was pre-release even) over on IMDB while BvS started mysteriously receiving lots of upvotes around the same time.

In short, what I'm saying is that I don't think a simple numerical rating is a good rule of thumb for gauging the quality of any product, not just webcomics or movies. Rather I think its an excuse for the average person to lazily pick a number from 1-10 based on shallow first impressions without having to actually sit down, read it, and write a constructive review saying what they like and don't like and in the case of big name reviewers is a cheap way to get clicks in cases where they pan a media product for seemingly no real reason other than to do it. (or praise a product that everyone else agrees isn't that good i.e Call of Duty)

[scythe]

One thing I've noticed about their algorithm is that if you sort by popularity, whenever I update, my comic's "popularity" plummets several pages, which is really weird, since that's when I get the most views, comments, likes and new subscribers. So obviously "popularity" isn't based on those things alone, but is perhaps linked to the sort 'by date' function, as in, if you're at the top of that list, your "popularity" gets penalized. Thoughts?

[6ooey]

I would think that it would be based on views and the interaction it has been receiving (subs, likes, n comments). Perhaps it resets when you upload an episode cause I also see mines being pushed down a tad bit, and it would depend on the activity of readers to help push it back up. This is just from observation though!

Also, I have noticed that the view count has been broken? Mines hasn't gone up since Saturday and my comic def has been pushed back a couple of pages frm the popular sorting. And I feel like that would be a problem for people who are trying to get pledges via their patreon campaign going on as well.

[scythe]

Ahh, that would definitely make sense! Good thinking.

As for the view count. I ran some Facebook ads a few weeks back and supposedly got 8k views from them, but only saw in increase in about 1.5-2k views on the tracker. So yeah, I don't trust their stats at all. In fact, I watch them sometimes, and they jump up and down all the time. +200, -300, +150, -250. There's definitely some kind of bug going on there.

[antimekii]

Actually, my account has been bugged too? I haven't been recieving views since September 15 which is bad for my patreon campaign. I also noticed my webtoon disappeared in the popularity sort. It happened before too but its not that big of deal but now I'm losing views that could get me a better pledge. I already contacted webtoon thru their feedback? thing but I still haven't received any reply. I'm really concerned.

[6ooey]

Yeah it seems like there's a bug going on, I hope it gets fixed soon ><

@antimekii yeah I feel like everyone is effected. I've seen freshly new webtoons with 0 views but with subs + ratings so you're not the only one. I hope they can sort it out cause I don't want to see people who are eligible for the pledge not get their payment cause of some bug q___q

[keii4ii]

I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to sort out issues with the views to prevent botting. If so, I hope they figure it out soon!