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Dec 2018

I trying to write story but a character comes from the darker times of our history with less tolerance so i wanna know if a straight boy can fall in love with a gay boy? Please show or tell me how.

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You meant he grew in homophobic environment, assumed himself straight because of it... And bam! He discovers actually he's not?

Entirely possible.

We all know there are still people out there with bad things to say about gays. It could be habit or even nature of somone. How do you make that person like a gay person?

That is... Not by all mean an easy task. I could say that you can use a setting where they are on a "same ground" (ah well I'm a s*cker at explaining things) and make the not gay guy "see and know" how the gay guy life is. Somewhat, but do know that if that person is someone who is very believing with their mindset that gay or LGBT in general is bad, it would be harder and time is really needed for him to understand, thought all of it might go on naught if they themselves did not want to change their mindset.

You don't have to use the gender pronouns to create a story.
It can be bromance, it can be non-sexual.
Just seeing your characters as human being is enough.

If the "straight" guy falls in love with a gay, then he is not straight. So it would be logically imposible.

He may be a LGTB person who is repressing his true sexual orientation.

There are cases of people who stayed in the closet too long and even married people of the opposite sex to pull out a facade of being straight. Those cases are particularly sad because, the wife feels used when she finds out and the gay is basically just pretending to love someone he doesn`t love.

It's gonna come with a lot of inner conflict, realistically.

Like as @silverraven0 said, it's not gonna be easy to just change your mindset in a quick of a flash just like that. Prejudices are more of a product of your surroundings/experiences, not a natural thing you're born with; hence, if he grew up in an area that discriminated against the LGBT+ community, he'll more or less adapt to those ideals because that's all he's known growing up.

Overall -- why would your character find himself close to this other guy if he thinks this way? Are they on "same ground" and working in the same area? Are they partners on the job? What situation are you thinking of that would put these two characters with different backgrounds and mindsets in the same place?

At first, if there is a bond even starting to form and it's hinted to feelings, your character might assume "ah well, it's just brotherly love. I just really, really like hanging out with this guy". He might even been able to accept the other guy's sexuality and begin to understand life outside of his worldview (or maybe not, but develops a "eh, you're alright...for a gay guy" mentality).

But as time goes on, and as those feelings develop, your character will feel differently, but he's going to question himself "Am I really attracted to guys? Why am I feeling this way?", and that's gonna come into conflict with his current mindset.

To be honest, I've seen this kinda story idea in a lot of the older BL from the 1990s - mid 2000s, if not old high-school fanfics you see on Deviantart/Wattpad. They kinda write it like "oops, guess I'm gay now", but it's really not that simple. It's possible to rediscover your sexuality identity, but the experiences and circumstances you're in can determine how well you embrace that, if you even acknowledge it as a change.

I mean if he is sexually interested in the other person and wants to do physical stuff with him... the guy can no longer be considered straight. You pretty much have two options, either he discovers who he really is and can remain closeted due to the dangers of that time period, or he lives a life of denial

I'm under the belief that subconciously everyone's a little bit Bi so if one's less accepting and hiding themselves in the closet (like deep in there). It might be possible.

hey xtraordinary.
so a lotta people mentioned how its impossible but it is.. technically possible. people's sexualities are fluid, theoretically a guy who was straight for 30 years of life Could develop homoerotic/romantic feelings towards only one person one day, and if they still see themselves as straight because it's just this one dude, then.. i mean, yeah, they're straight. guess what? sexualities are self-given descriptors.
the thing about fiction is that it's fiction, and even a super unlikely kind of annoyingly-cliche scenario where an otherwise straight man falls for a gay guy isn't that uncommon and isn't theoretically impossible, just highly improbable and as mentioned before, kind of annoying because it undermines gay, bi, and pan sexualities.

let's talk about the olden times though, because you did step on a really common thing here
when homosexuality was illegal I'd say (not based on anything concrete, but I mean this is totally google-able) I'd assume most gay or bi people classified themselves as "straight but id go for that" because being gay was so dangerous and seen as detestable. and its important to remember that love comes in many many forms, and so does sexuality, with the right social pressue and base understanding, and general circumstances, a person who'd otherwise be seen as completely gay could totally see themselves as staight and feel real feelings towards women, and that's something to remember too. just because someone's gay, don't mean they can't love a woman, it's just in a different way and maybe they're forced to channel what would otherwise be a more platonic love into a weird mimic of sexual/romantic love.
the thing is though that the gay community was almost like a seperate society up till im gonna say the 90s? and even then... I think a lot of us don't really get to hear about that community and learn about it and what it was like, what were the social norms, what was commonpalce for a gay person who's actively identifying themselves (even if in secret) as gay during those times in history, instead getting this sort of (completely mistaken) view of history where 20 years ago gay people barely existed when, in fact, gay people were fucking living it up. and the thing is that it's very hard to find proper places to learn about these things from because they were so intertwined into the society at the time but not talked about in public, records were just not something kept that well and it's not always easy to find the context in which hearing someone talk about crazy sex & drug parties, but it's not impossible.
i guess what im getting at here is that your story concept is completely valid and there can be a lot of truth to it, if you want there to be (I mean honestly? you don't have to), but if you wanna touch on that subject you're gonna have to prepare youself to Really Dig In to some sweet, sweet research because there's a lot to be unconvered.
also this is like, a really fucking huge period of time. when are we talkng here pal? the 30s? 60s? there so much to go on here bud.

On a sidenote if you just wanna have some fun with easily accessible based-on-a-rea-story gay-romance content rooted in those time periods (and to be fair i dont watch a lot -by which i mean i barely watch any- but they're still good)
A Very English Scandal1 - Hugh Grant (i know right?) and Ben Whishaw (q from the new bond movies) play a very fun and fantatically written story about a politician and his ex-lover's ... complicated relationship. prepare for some politics, murder, and flamboyant drama. it's a 3 episode series which touches exactly on that "gay but identifies as straight" finer points
Kill Your Darlings - Daniel Radlcliffe (harry potter), Dane DeHaan (he did the green goblin that one time) and for some reason though im not complaining Michael C. Hall (dexter) with a large and overall really fantastic cast play Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac and William Burroughs (yes, the poets) in a truly beautiful, dare i say masterpiece of a movie, with poetry, murder, homosexuality, and some really good cinematography. like, damn. it took me all of 2 seconds to fall in love with this film.
Risk1 - this isnt a movie but it's a podcast (its very nsfw so fair warning) which has peopel come on up and tell their true stories about life and everything small to big and it has a lot of truly great stories settled around the 70s, 80s, about the gay commnunity which are always great fun and if you have the patience to seek them out, they're always worth a listening to (hosted by kevin allison, yes that dude from the state)
edit: sidenote about this one yes i said the 80s but like i said earlier, its hard to find personal testimony stories without actively looking for them which i wasnt so. thats what i got, man

I don't have enough data on your characters to help you, but if you fall in love with someone who is the same sex as yourself, I'm pretty sure that means you're either gay or bisexual. Unless the straight guy has no sexual feelings for the gay guy, anyhow, and they're just really close--then that might mean they're just really good friends. But it sounds as if your straight guy maybe just thought he was straight because that's all he knew and that's what his society told him he was, but then he maybe discovered he wasn't so straight when he met this gay person? But anyway, by definition, I don't think you can be straight and then fall in love with a gay person, haha.

so the impression im getting is that your story is abt a man from The Old Days travelling to the modern day and falling in love with another man?

this is an interesting premise - it sounds to me like the most logical arc is that your MC realises, in the new openness of the modern world, that hes actually bi or gay, in some kind of self-discovery arc.

and to ask how someone who was extremely homophobic can fall in love with another man - well, it happens today! plenty of gay ppl grow up in extremely homophobic environments and have to unlearn all that when they enter into their new queer lives.

your character would likely have to go on quite a long and arduous journey to learn and un-learn before they can accept themselves, which can be both painful and joyous at the same time.

I have to say no, but hear me out. The very definition of being straight means you only fall in love and are attracted to the opposite gender. If he is falling in love with a boy, it means he was pansexual or bisexual though he never realised before he didn't meet the right guy.

Orientation is not an off and on switch. If he falls in love with girls and boys, he is not straight. Simple as that. And that's ok. I've met people like that, but even they admitted they were not straight after all.

Orientation isn't all or nothing, either. It's been known from time to time for someone who's 99.9% hetero to find that one person of the same sex they could go for. And as loath as some people are to hear it, a few people who are 99.9% gay find the one person of the opposite sex they could genuinely go for. It's highly unusual, but it has happened even to two or three people I know.

The waters are further muddied when you consider romantic attraction versus physical attraction. The two don't always go together and don't always match.

Well i know some can find hidden emotions for the same gender but if someone doesn't allow themselves to feel like that out a solid habit or intolerable sense of thinking stemming from growing up in a household from the "good ole days", is it truly possible to break though years of hatred, close minded development, and the information given to him from those he trusts in order to even consider bi a possibility in its most basic form?

I should explain though i can't get into specifics. The straight MC finds himself in an environment he does not consider safe for his kind of people considering he is the only one left of his people. Along his journeys he finds this gay MC who is of a different race that both intimidates and scares the straight one. He gets around to overlooking race but the gay MC never tells him of not only the fact that he's gay but also harbors feels for the straight one. Now at this point in the story, the straight MC is given information that the gay MC and his race usually tend to get violent and feral around this age. The straight MC begins to lose trust in the gay MC especially when he notices a change in his behavior (though this is simply because the gay is trying to confess though feels terribly scared about it). In the end of this subplot, the straight MC fears for his life and begins to take measures to protect himself. Out of a big misunderstanding (believing the straight MC to being attacked by some monster) the gay one charges in and disables some of the straight MCs measures from his path. Eventually when gay MC gets too close, he realizes he was the monster the straight MC was trying get away from.

Here's when he confesses and hopes the straight MC can understand the situation and the feeling the gay MC has though this only worsens their relationship as the straight MC no longer has any trust left in the gay MC. Slurs are used, a falling out begins, the straight MC feels he can't trust anyone, and the gay MC feels broken knowing the only person he tried so hard to give assurance in their friendship and the idea that he could be trusted just completely reject him out of fear.

How can something sprout from this?