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Jan 2018

Talked to my counselor about switching classes and told her about the guy in question (and started crying like a baby because I'm really unstable now apparently) and all she really said was
"Oh, him? I know him, he's a great guy. Go talk with him and figure things out"

AARRGH!! Basically now I'm morally obligated to stay in my history class. Because it's the "right thing to do". Nooooooooooooooo please. Please.i have enough stress in my life

........really???, that`s terrible :anguished:
Does she know you already tried to do that?,
(maybe you didnt told her due to the distress of the moment. I am asking just in case :pensive: )

I really hope this gets solved soon.
I wish i have an idea how to solve this. If for any reason i get one, i`ll tell you.

And of course, i am here if you need to talk.

Thanks again.. I'll think of a way :slight_smile:
Sorry for bringing my angst onto forums lol

Don`t worry,that is what friends are for.

Also, this topic is literally for that,

Da heck why??
What's with that counselor?

I don't know. Personally, it's fairly easy to sweet-talk a teacher. Or any person in authority.
Anybody could do it. You just need to be a little more persuasive.
And bring evidence. Like, cold, hard evidence. That should do the trick to make you switch classes.

Have you tried talking to someone higher than the guidance counselor?

But yeah, don't worry about putting angst down here. This is what this thread (and subsequent friends you meet in this thread) is for.

:slight_smile:

... of course that's what happened. :expressionless: OF COURSE.
this kid sound like a real weasel if the adults think he's great but he's bullying you.

maybe you could change seats in your class? sort of to deter as much interaction with this guy as possible.

wow, I'm annoyed (for you, not because you vented) :grimacing:

...there's nothing wrong with being sensitive! especially considering the stress you've been under?

I probably I KNOW would've done the same thing! ;u;

About to have a mental breakdown over here. went home yesterday evening and got a prompt for a laptop update. I ran the update, and now my laptop has wonked out- it keeps going in circles during the booting process. Sat down with one of my I.T. co-workers & trying to see if we can recover the settings.

..........because nothing says "I care about your well being and mental health!" than by saying bullshit like that... :slight_smile: ....I am so sorry. That councillor couldn't have been ANYMORE HORRIBLE AT THEIR JOB.

This is a terrible response.

Maybe the counsellor gets a lot of people who've had little fights coming through the door. I know some of my students fall out every week then make up again. It might help if you went back and stood your ground.

By the way, you shouldn't have to. The counsellor is paid to take every problem seriously. This is not how we are trained to respond to students and makes me think she is being wilfully ignorant.

Yeah..
She made it clear that she would be very "disappointed" in me if I had changed classes(she said it would be running away from my problems) , so I'm just sucking it up and staying I guess. Maybe the guy will stop ignoring me one day, but it's been two years soooo. Here's to hoping :slight_smile:

imo people do this because they know you wont respond publicly so they can get away with it.

a lot of passive aggressive folk never do expect to be called out on. tbh,
if they're giving you grief. loudly announce. "Why do you never listen to me?" or "THATS OKAY I GUESS I DONT MIND APPARENTLY"
another one is make a joke to people in their presence about them. thats something i do a lot. like i remember this 1 dill weed talked down to me all the time and i passive aggressive out maneuvered them by joking loudly about how they talk to people like their stupid. 'cause then if it becomes confrontational. your like "it was a joke :confused: yikes why u so sensitive"

like i know thats hyper douchey, but you gotta just out maneuver them the one time and they back off.

i use to be a total ass-hat when i was your age. thats why i know this.

running away. from your problems.

there's so much bull in that statement I could open up a steakhouse.

edit: I cannot believe she's making you feel bad for wanting a better learning environment! :frowning:
I'm not being much help, so i'll stop giving lip. but jesus... I really hope things get better for you, dawg.

(if I may ask, have you talked to your mom about this at all? do you think she would vouch for you to switch classes? sometimes parental involvement is necessary in these situations... especially considering your counselor isn't taking you seriously enough.)

I was always told this phrase if there's no solution then there's no problem to begin with.
So don't stress out over that. I mean we can't we friends with everybody we have this phrase in my country "I am not a gold coin for everybody to like me".

If there's bullying involved then that's another more serious matter.

I can't find the original post for this convo and I missed it but I'm assuming this is about some idiot bulling you. And I think you're in.....highschool?

My sympathies.

Too bad the universe didn't play out where we were in school together. I would openly beat that idiot. I was a violent person in school. But then we probably wouldn't even know each other, lol. My group of friends were all big scary nerds. Which was odd. Play Yu-gi-oh, watch anime, teach bullies hard lessons...

edit: inb4 that solves nothing. That's just how I was back then.

Argh no. The stuff you've told us is out and out bullying.

Can you go to somebody higher? Or threaten to? I bet that'd light a fire under her.

Alright @dawgofdawgness , i got an idea. And it involves the truth. Try to apologise once more. (i know, it sucks, but is just one shot more). If he doesn`t forgive you try this:

Tell your counselor you already tried to apologise (which is true), but he didn`t want to listen/didt forgave you (which is also true). Then tell her he probably is not ready to forgive,(also true) and you think the healthiest thing for him and you is give him space. (also, completely true)

Sometimes you have to speak to people in their language. The counselor must see you are trying to do the right thing (which is true too) to be convinced.

Is not healthy for neither of you if this conflict escalates. I hope this gets solved soon.

@craicin man, if only I had the guts to do that.. I haven't even worked up the courage to try and talk to him after he rejected me. I can't exactly manage a "hello" so I'm just quiet in class now. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that one of my closest friends is in my class and I'm pretty much obligated to talk

@TheThoughtfulBoxful thank you again! I haven't told anyone about this other than two of my friends... And forums, because I know you guys won't snitch hahaha

@ISNEKO wish I had big scary nerd friends right now :confused:

@Rhombik Unfortunately I don't think I can do anything about that anymore. My counselor was very reluctant to let me switch classes in the first place, and she said that it might not even be possible. So I told her I would just stay in my current class. I could try and talk to someone higher, but it's very possible that there aren't any spaces in other classes now, since the class I'm in right now is the only one that isn't full.

@DiegoPalacios :cry: Really wish I could do something about it.. The best I can do for now is to avoid this person, maybe try one more time to get him to talk to me. Who knows what will happen?

I've sorta been following the story love, and I do think you might need to consult another adult in the matter. If it is this bad, there may be a chance it will escalate. Now, I don't know this guy like you know him, but again, bullying is bullying, no matter what.

And honestly? As a person who's been a victim of bullying myself, I feel this guy is being unbelievably petty. I understand there was some rift between you two in the past, but you were willing to step up and accept your fault. That takes a lot of courage and growth to do. He doesn't have to forgive you, no, but him going out of his way to purposefully make you uncomfortable when you've apologized and meant it and have not done anything to him since...that's very petty and unhealthy behavior. In fact, it makes him a hypocrite -- why give back the treatment you were given (or at least something similar)?

I've been a victim, but I moved passed it. I didn't forgive my bully, but I didn't go out of my way to be spiteful because I just had other things to worry about. And I certainly never felt the need to bully them or anyone else for that matter. Maybe he's not passed whatever when down between you, but he should handle himself much better.

I think going to an adult, someone you trust, needs to happen. Because this is affecting your ability to function in your class, and that can affect your ability to perform there as well. And I feel your counselor believed in him because you went to her and he wasn't there. So she most likely went to him with what YOU said and he did some "oh, it's just a misunderstanding".

So you might need to sit down, the both of you, and talk it out with an adult ( if not more -- like your parents). Because this can't and shouldn't, continue. His attitude shouldn't continue like this because it actually makes me wonder how he's like with other people or how he could potentially be like.

These are my two cents, and you shouldn't rush if you're still uncomfortable. But please -- make sure you have people around you to support you and work with you through this. This is not something you should endure just because "I did wrong in the past, so this is what I deserve". You also owned up to it, and meant it with your heart. If he can't recognize that, that's his problem.