I lost a sub today on webtoons and tapas. Its not such a big deal but Aghhhhh it just eats into my soul.......
You can still look up the old thread if you have it in your browser's history. You can't interact with it anymore, but at least you can see how bad it was before the mods closed it, just to quench your curiosity.
So that's the reason I couldn't find it when I wanted to write a rant yesterday!
Oh well, here it is now:
(I really don't want to sound unprofessional, but I really need to get this out of my chest)
A publisher contacted me and asking me about how things went with a comic I pitched (mind you, 2 years ago).
So, naturally, I replied that I haven't been working on it because I didn't hear anything from them after I asked for a longer deadline.
And oh. my. god. their reply. Holy shit.
They first went on to guilt trip me about sooooo many artists dropping their projects (with that attitude, I completely understand) and then proceeded to tell me that even tho it wasn't going to get published I should've worked on it no matter what, because I wanted to.
Like, dude.
I've been swamped with things to do that has taken much more energy than I expected. Such as, weddings, my nephew being born and me hitting a wall because of stress.
And like, when I heard NOTHING from them, I assumed my request for a longer deadline was a no-no so I didn't work on it as I felt unmotivated of doing so.
And when he asked me to get done before March next year, I said: Sure, I can do 40 pages more till then, shouldn't be a problem.
He's like: How?
Uhm. Ok, I'm going down to half time, so there's your answer (plus I've found a way to speed up my process a bit more).
I'm still not sure whether or not to reply back to him or not, I really don't want to get into an argument about who's right or not.
I don't even care about getting this book published anyway, especially not with his attitude (but a part of me thinks that I should try to get this done either way, because well... Once you're published, people take you a bit more seriously and it could eventually lead to more work!)
As you can see, I'm a bit 50/50 about it, I still like the comic idea (but I barely have any material to continue it) and I'm also not in the mood of handling a grumpy old man.
Edit: Oh yeah!
Apparently he wanted me to contact them when I had more material 8D
I mean, when I heard nothing from him, how should I know I should contact him AGAIN?
Sure, that's probably how it works in the publishing industry, but I'm very new to all this so I had no idea D:
Seems to me he's trying to do some power play in order to belittle you and to corner you into getting a penny-for-dollar deal.
However, if he's contacting you instead of the other way around, I would flaunt your peacock plumage and negotiate for a sweeter deal. Take no nonsense from power play! Always strongarm power plays. If you up the ante you usually will be pleasantly surprised what you can get away with!
Yeah, I think so too!
I've heard some rumours about him earlier, but I didn't listen to it. He's pretty known for this kind of behaviour.
Tbh, I'm pretty surprised that he's contacting me after such long silence xD
When people are desperate, they call in to everyone. Just remember not to lose your posture and maybe do some research about their publishing house, their financial health and their sales figures, and you will be fine.
Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but drama always finds a way into things.
Let's see how long this lasts...I enjoyed the first b*tching thread, while it lasted.
I've always hated it when people in a group breaking up to form their very own mini-conversations.
Like, suddenly out of the blue, everyone has their own little convos with somebody, instead of, you know, everyone sharing stuff with one another.
I don't know if it's because of the "mates" I'm with, or it's because of me, but really, it gets friggin tiring when everything just divides like that.
I mean, what's the point of going with us if you're going to talk with someone else?
Just my thing.
-Helioxiv
But snow is so amazing! It's so pretty and cold and great!
Anyways, my complaint. I just picked up a game I haven't played since February and can't remember where I was or how to play and it wont let me restart. 
Talk to many publishers, that will give you more options and a bigger ground to negotiate. If you aren`t satisfied with publisher 1, seek for a publisher who gives you a better deal.
Wohohoho thanks. It got pretty ugly back there. I hope everything was resolved in the end.
And bless that one guy that just wanted to talk about gyms lol
I've already done that!
They were the only publisher that replied back with actual wanting to publish.
If they say no now, I won't be sad, because I don't really want to work with a published that's known to be rude!
I replied back to that email so now I'm afraid of opening it xD
So far the final half of this year has been kicking my butt art wise. I feel lethargic, and kinda burned out, but I need to get this chapter of my comic done. I've hit a zone with my RL gig where I dont want to stay late anymore- even if it allows me extra hrs/extra $$$. I think I need to just curl up in my bed and sleep for a few months to recharge my batteries...
Unfortunately, publishers everywhere will expect results and pressure for deadlines, is part of their job, because they can`t publish something unfinished and there is a chain of promises that rely on people delivering, so they may be pressured by their superiors. The difference may be how clear they are about what they expect from you and individual personalities . If you want another publisher in the long term, finish your book or finish another project. You can talk to the same publishers before. Or search for other ones.
The investor/publisher mindset is simple, i know some things may be frustrating, but understanding how they work may help you.
1-Deadlines are sacred. One day later means millions lost. There is a massive plan that involves the launching date of your book, advertising, etc...
2-Evidence is gold. If you can prove your progress, they can calm down because they can prove their superiors this artist is working.
3-Never over-promise. If you can only work once a week, be clear about it. If nobody accepts that. Then is not the time YET. Even without a publisher, do your book in your own time. I know the rude publisher kind of said that too, but when you get more time, you can actually work with a publisher and have part of your already done.
I know publishing involves a lot of pressure, that is why you have to prepare yourself. Good luck with your book and hope you become a hit!
True, just...I speak with my subscribers a lot, and all I'm usually told is to add colour/get better with line art.
I'm trying, it's just annoying.
Oh, I'm fully aware of how the industry works! 
However, I thought it was unreasonable to have 140 pages done in less than 2 months and extremely low pay, (talking $300) which I told him when I met him in person and in our mail conversations.
I work full time, so I only have so much time to spare D:
As I haven't signed a contract yet, I have the fullest right to ask for a longer deadline.
(If I had signed the contract, I wouldn't have asked for a delayed deadline but it should always be discussed if you feel it's unreasonable!)
I do still, believe that he could've contacted me with a single yes or no answer to it instead of waiting 2 years asking me how it goes.
And this publisher IS the superior, they're a rather small publishing company but has been around for decades so they're fairly known too!
I contacted about 6-7 different publishers, some replied, some didn't.
But that's how it is in the industry!
It's not the first time, and certainly not the last time I've been in contact with publishers
I guess I would just say, take your time. This is an opportunity, but it's not the only opportunity that will come around if you keep plugging away at your comic. Don't feel pressured to take it, especially if you get bad vibes from this guy. : 0
I think I might have been interviewed without me realizing it by a cute girl at the gym last night. She got away with my religious beliefs, what time i come to the gym, my ethnicity details, what i do for a living, my age, and all i got was her name.
I'm not good at this.
