To join or not to join DevianArt?

[MK_Wizard]

Ok. I am seriously considering giving DeviantArt one last all or nothing chance just to showcase my webcomics. Let’s weigh out the pros and cons. Note that regardless of the amount of either, the weight of each pro or con may be more than others…

Pro:

• It has been almost a decade, so it’s a fresh start.
• Most of the time, it works when it comes to promoting webcomics.
• It is a chance to meet even more new lovely people.
• The chances of running into my old trolls are slim to none.
• My old trolls most likely don’t even remember me and didn’t know who I was.
• Everybody has grown up now including me so I know better how to handle things.
• I have developed a resilience against trolls.
• I intend to stay out of fanwars and art wars. I will not even fave or collect stamps. I’m there for the art not the politics.

Con:

• I might run into new trolls and while I am immune to them, they still make my page look ugly with mean comments.
• If my old crowd finds me, there is no guarantee that they have moved on.
• People might react badly again to my beliefs or opinions no matter how diplomatic I am.
• I might wind up being one of those webcomic creators who doesn’t get any traffic through DA.

So… as I said long ago, I have 100% healed from my nightmare experience with DA. I am not same person anymore as I was then. I think back to it and I don’t fell sad or down anymore when I remember it. Not even when I think of the bad stuff. In fact, I remember a lot of the good times more now. I think that if I was to go back, people would like the new me. However, will I like the new DA?

What do you all think? Should I give DA one last chance?

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[lartianmartian1]

I only keep my dA because people still fave my old art from time to time. It happens pretty rarely, but it still happens, so I stick with it, even if I barely check or update anymore. I never had to deal with trolls, so sorry about your experience. But kudos for developing a spine because of it! I feel like if I had to deal with trolls now I would so not be prepared.

Honestly though, you might be better off on Instagram, Twitter, or heck even Tumblr, if you don't have those already? And if you don't have too adult-y content. I quit my Tumblr for that reason, but I know a lot of artists who stuck with it and seem to be doing just fine.

[TheWitherling]

I would say there's not harm in branching off to different audiences on different platforms.Trolls will always be a given and is something that should be ignored (people are stupid sometimes). Sounds like you're thinking too much about it too. If it goes south then just abandon that account and continue your usual routine

[joannekwan]

Nah.
I never really got traction there even with fanart.

The interface is kind of a bitch to navigate through comic pages anyway (well, twitter and insta are equally as horrible, but you can attract people on those platforms easier to direct them to a proper site). But yeah, unless you've got god-tier art skills or fit into some niche category or fetish, it would be difficult to get people clicking on your stuff at DA I feel.

[Bosque]

No, no if you want to join again just for your comics because DA is the house of the fanart, beside the groups I don't think the site works to promote webcomics... unless your comics were about canines with mystical powers, fetish or Pokemon/FNAF/MLP FIM
just check the home page, the're the same popular artist of everyday or fanart/dogs
and about trolls, sadly they're in anywhere...

[Carillon-Nightmares]

I've gotten more attention on there than Tapas for my webcomic. I have 120 watchers on there compared to only 9 on Tapas. I draw other artwork on there as well. It feels refreshing to have a better chance at getting my content noticed.

[BobbyjoeX]

well DA has changed drastically, theres this new layout that looks like Art station. its almost just... dead.... i think thats it

[GesuGesu]

I only stick to DA for it's Sta.sh private gallery and for having a fairly organized gallery system in an established art platform.

I also still have some attachment to all the roleplay groups on DA where all the good artists sometimes gather, so I visit once in a while.

[DokiDokiTsuna]

Are you planning on starting a new account? Because all the new users are required to use the Eclipse version of the site, which is (a) unfinished, (b) buggy, (c) ugly, and (d) not very functional.

If you haven't been back in years, I'd suggest waiting a few more, at least until this Eclipse project is finished and everyone has a chance to see whether it's actually any good or just sad ArtStation-wannabe garbage like we all suspect.

As for the environment, I guess it's the same as always, namely because (according to the older users) the admins don't care about any of the major problems so they never go away. The atmosphere has had a bit of a pessimistic tint lately...^^;

[JeanGuillet]

I've got a pretty active DA account but have only been on for 4 years, so I'm sure my experience won't line up with the old timers.

I really haven't met any trolls on DA and I interact with hundreds of people per week. Spammers yes. Trolls? Maybe like three over four years?

Promoting webcomics, well I'm doing that, I can't say the audience on DA is super interested in webcomics. I'm using art as a feeder for the comic, that said, the people who are willing to give comics a chance usually give mine a chance.

Daily Deviation isn't something that brings in a lot of traffic, so though everyone really wants it, it's not as big a deal as you might think. I'll only get maybe 100 extra people coming per day if I get a dd.

Like any social site, you've got to build it. A long time ago I heard someone say that it takes an equal amount of time to go from 0 to 600 subs as it takes to go from 600 to 6000. I can confirm on both counts.

It's not got the greatest format for hosting comics, but I've made it work for me. Link navigation in the description works fine and the galleries are great for organization.

The DA site redesign Eclipse is a rolling disaster in progress which might cause you a lot of frustration in the short run because it's really unprofessional. I can't confirm whether new accounts are required to use it. If so, I'd hold off until they fix it, particularly because Eclipse makes new comics really hard to discover. I'm submitting bug reports to the staff weekly over this, and they've been relatively good about trying to go through the enormous bug list on Eclipse and address them so I have hope that someday they'll get around to making it good for comics. Everything's up in the air over this, and lack of certainty makes things difficult.

[Freemints30]

I have been on deviant art for almost a year and so far I have only gained 1 watcher. On twitter I get a bigger response. Im trying out the groups but from what I have seen you are better of drawing fan art of popular properties which I personally don't like doing. I haven't interacted much with the community as I steer as far as possible from the forums as from afar I can already see some toxic fumes. Example one of the people I watch seems to have some sort beef with a couple of user that looks pretty nasty, they just insulting them out of no where in their own comment section (yikes). I don't think new accounts do all that well there.

[Next121]

NO!!

If you are looking for a place to share your creative spirit, do not go to DeviantArt. The “artists” that make up this horrid place dedicate themselves to nothing else except spreading hate. They will not just hate what you create, but they will also hate who you are. They will do whatever is humanly possible to destroy your character and your life. I should know because I regrettably used to be one of their kind. When I first arrived to that place in 2006, I was immediately exposed to nothing but drama. Somebody said this, some people did this, and yadda yadda. To make a long story short, someone viciously wronged me once and I would make fake account after fake account just to get back at her. The anger and negativity of DeviantArt is so infectious that one can easily be transformed into something that they were never meant to be.

I digress, however.

There are hate stamps, hate stamps everywhere not just of what you love about others, but also about what you love about yourself. Are you overweight and satisfied? Are you of a different minority relating to skin color or sexual or gender identity, and concerned with another’s well-being? Are you a female or perhaps on the autism spectrum who feels that you are being misrepresented? If you are any or all of these, then the point will be made that you are not welcome. Your all-around existence is practically invalid because you either are annoying or you’re disturbing the peace. Don’t even think about defending yourself lest you want to be labeled “butthurt.”

If you are looking for constructive criticism, don’t even try. The people on DeviantArt are not there to help you get better, but to help you conform. They won’t say what you need to improve on, but they will tell you to give up. I have met all kinds of “unique” individuals on DeviantArt that are so extreme that I tend to wonder about their mental state. I have met people who say that they enjoy making others feel worse about themselves. I have met people who say that they enjoy pessimism and negativity so much and want to take everyone down with them. What’s worse, they have the most twisted sense of entitlement as if they are allowed to hurt others. I remember once someone calling me a bully and a hypocrite when I got angry at her for telling me that I was going to hell for being who I am. The moderators did nothing to stop it, they even enabled it by saying it’s a sincerely held belief. Well, guess what, you filthy ingrates, I don’t believe I am going to hell, so where is my goddamn care and sympathy?

I don’t know what else to recommend other than starting your own art blog, something that I have no skill in.

[NickRowler]

I still post on DA on an account which is 11 years old. If you do want to join, I will say that the site tends to have younger users (like teens and young adults). I feel like a sequential comic has no footing on the site, I think comics are best for webcomic sites. Fanart is what most people look for on the site. Which unfortunately the people who get the largest following tend to be those to dedicate all their art to a single major fandom.

Also avoid fighting with people, it's mostly pointless and you don't really get anywhere with it. I don't think you get too many trolls unless you post hyper-political things or you are going out of your way to cause drama. The forums are a blackhole, I haven't looked at them in years but I doubt they fixed the amount of garbage that flows through it. The site unfortunately still has a lot of fetish art and it is unsettling when you click on someone's profile and that's all you see.

[lunaartemisasama]

If you want, just make an account to promote your comics on Tapas
That's what I did with my old account.

[DokiDokiTsuna]

If you are looking for a place to share your creative spirit, do not go to DeviantArt. The “artists” that make up this horrid place dedicate themselves to nothing else except spreading hate.

I'd like to point out that this is a lot of hyperbole. =/

There's toxicity on dA, just like there is everywhere else (Twitter and Tumblr aren't exactly havens for saints, either). But there's plenty of good there if you're willing to look past the lunatic fringe instead of focusing on it.

I watch 414 deviants as of now, and not one of them is dedicated to spreading hate or maliciousness. So if you're looking for talented, passionate artists who don't happen to be fire-breathing hellions, I think I can recommend a few.

[Zin_Trollborn]

My DA account is 12 years old but I don't get in there a lot since years.
Free to you to join and taste the water but it's hard for new people to get noticed. So if you do, I'd suggest to look for groups to join and make some fanarts.
Also no, troll people are not going to jump on you and make you miserable
There's some bad people and nice people as well. I made good friends with some of them and for the toxic people, just ignore them and it's ok it's not a so big deal.
DA is mostly dead nowadays and people don't even communicate a lot now except for popular artists. Oh and I forgot... all the fetish art. Yeah they probably took all over this website, so be prepared.

[Jevlin]

Exactly, I also don't have bad feelings about DeviantArt. It was my childhood and it was an experience I love being nostalgic about. I still have an account for like 5 years now but since I don't have the time to do things there right now, it's very unpopular. But otherwise, all the people I know/knew there are very kind and sweet. There are drama queens I've met, yeah, but the ones I saw are just youngsters telling how bad their life is, nothing extremely harmful - I can just unwatch them.

There's a lot of toxicity too, of course, and especially on the forums but as @DokiDokiTsuna said, it's everywhere and nothing can be done about it. DeviantArt did a "great" job hiding the forums (and the chats), so a lot of user doesn't even know it exists.

On the other hand, I don't know what to think about Eclipse but I've also heard that if you sign up as a new user, you forced to use it and don't have the button to switch to the old style, so I'm recommending not doing it right now.

[ajcrwl]

Oof, goddamn Deviantart...

People whom I see gaining lots of followers, good feedback, faves etc:

1. Those who do commissions, adopts etc

2. People who draw big impressive works of art which would also easily get likes on Artstation

3. Mainstream fanartists with art of the same great quality like the previous bunch

4. People who have previously drawn for big fandoms and their followers stuck around for whatever new stuff they make.

5. ayej (aka icpe) and Kate Fox

6. Furries.

I know a few comic artists who post on there and also have good following and get feedback, and somehow are also popular outside of DA.
But I've scrolled back in their gallery and it seems like they also drew fanart at some point in the past and probably gained follows from that. Sigh.

[MK_Wizard]

Judging by all this feedback, I decided that it would be best to not go back DeviantArt. It sounds like it got worse not better.