Webtoons stats tanking - anyone knows what's going on?

[BraniAndNess]

Did they? My next update is Monday, I can't wait to see if there's an improvement!

[globetrottingfox]

If it makes you feel more relaxed here some positive stats: subs got a +3 in my update #5 while a +19 in #6 and views went up from +230 to +500 so I feel something positive is happening!

[Ringarune]

I've been seeing improvement as well. Last month was mostly a loss of subs for me but its been steadily back in the positive recently.

[lunchtiiime12]

I've gone from making $400 a month to $0. If this continues, I'll have to cancel the whole project. Very sad.

[beta1042]

So I just opened up the webtoon phone app and it looks like they updated and changed a lot on there, so I'm wondering how this will effect stats.

[BraniAndNess]

A few people have commented that they saw a slight improvement! I updated this morning so I'm waiting for tomorrow to check my stats... But already I have a couple comments on the new update from newcomers who say they just found the comic on Discover! The last few months we've only had comments from our regulars!

[ashersz]

I'm updating tomorrow so I'm excited to see how this turns out

[Bobler09]

That sounds promissing! I had a drop in views (from around 30000 to 5000/month) and subs as well (from around 1000+ to -10/month) my next pages aren't ready yet, but i'd love to hear from you guys if this new wt-update actually changes some things.

I mean i'm not dependent on webtoon money, i'm just a student who does this webcomic thing in his sparetime, but seeing my stats drop that much was discuraging nontheless...

[hades]

I've gotten more comments and interaction but my subs are still faltering. I'm not too concerned or stressed over it. Just a bit odd since I'm still get interaction!

[BraniAndNess]

We have gotten a couple comment from people who just found us on Discover. So that's promising? But the sub count is still low and views are a little bit better but barely... I guess we'll see

[scythe]

Yeah, I dropped from around 10-15k down to about 2-3k, and have been slowly losing about 10 subs a week I guess. I haven't noticed anything picking up like others have, but I do hope it's the case. Maybe it is indeed as others suggested, just a slump thanks to a busy part of the school year. Or maybe it's people getting used to the new app layout.

[lunchtiiime12]

Just an odd development. In 24 hours last month I got 200 subs. Every other day the of the month was on, or about, 0.

I did nothing that particular day to gain 200 subs.

Something is clearly messed up.

[LordVincent]

I think something is very weird and the more time passes, the more I am actually starting to believe there could be some form of rigging of the system going on. I prefer not to buy into weird theories that assume there is a big villain doing villainy villain things, but everything is looking really fishy right now.

I still only lose subs everytime I update on there.

Do you have the mature content warning on your series? Since your comic is targeted at adults. I am testing removing mine (since the mature scenes in mine are censored anyways) to see if that is why the system appears to be pushing us down.

It could also not be the system, but rather be that readers find the tag/warning annoying. Which I would too. Webtoon's system in that regard is just a nuisance.

[lunchtiiime12]

Hey Vince, nice to hear from you.

I did have the adult checkbox for a month, but I turned it back off. We don't have any nudity, just implied stuff and some censored scenes. I realized that anything you do that prevents you from getting audience is just letting some other person get more audience. Change it if they force you to, IMO.

[Edgmont]

First of all, hi everyone and sorry for my bad english.
Last year, my webtoon got about 200-300 new subs with each update. After I reached 5000 subs, I had a two months hiatus. When I got back, my growth was better than ever, I reached 7000 subs in less than two months. I was always on the top 25 of my main genre and top 8 of my secondary genre( by popularity). Then I got another month hiatus to work on another project.
Then it happened. When I returned in november, I just got 30 subs. And now I'm getting about 20-30 subs per update since then and losing subs daily. But that's not the only strange fact. I fell to top 90-150 in my main genre since then, and suddenly one day my top of secondary genre(which was 6 instead 8 at that point) fell to 215 two days after I updated. I was the only 7k between lots of new comics which still didn't get the 1k. After I updated again, I left the ranked number 215 and I got top 20.
And that's not all. After my webcomic got "frozen" I was promoted by a webtoon with 50 k subs. I got 300 subs due to that, and it took like a week. Also for some reason, I appeared on recomended titles once, and I just got 40 subs. And I have been in the spotlight top 30 of my main genre a few times( like today) and still I just got like 10 new subs. In my last update from this week, I didn't even reached a number of views equivalent to my number of subs.
So no, it's far from normal. I thought people lost interest on my story drastically, but after reading all these cases, definitely something fishy is happening here. It's pretty clear that Line always had favorites, but this is foul play.

[BraniAndNess]

My two cents: we aren't mature content and are having the same problem on webtoons

[Zugaikotsu]

Dude, something similar happened to me in December 22. Its usual that you ll lose some positions at the rank when you update, but... i updated my episode, and was doing nice... getting likes, comments, and all. I climbed 10 positions, then,even keeping this pattern, out of the blue, i dropped 13 positions. And my neighboors in the ranking were all dormant. No significant number of likes, comments, views, no new updates. It was lile it was deliberately pushed.

[Edgmont]

Welcome to the Non-blessed webtoons club
And of course we're not gonna be the only ones. My theory is they're focusing specially in those webtoons which were dangerously close to the new minimum pledge(10 k). If they are not interested on them, they will start to obstruct their growth on purpose to avoid them to reach the first pledge, which would incentivate the authors to continue the webtoon instead of losing their faith and giving up on the site.
Yes, it's a twisted thought, but I can't help it due to several strange experiences as I said. I were 24 hours on the recomended titles section, which usually gives around 600-1k extra subs on most of the cases I've seen, and I just got 40 or less. It also has happened to me that my suscriptions to two webtoons which were starting just dissapeared, and I noticed it because I found by coincidence they had updated, and I wasn't subscribed. I have been all day on the top 30 of my section and I have got 4 subs at this point. I'm not even sure anymore if all my subcribers get the notification when I update.
So yeah, they are adding +200 authors to the pledges on discover, but at the same time they're "cleaning". First, they drop a lot of authors with the new minimum stats. And after that they are clearly being selective with their news potential paid authors. If your webtoon is not appealing to them, they will manipulate your stats. Easy for them, and everything will be concealed behind screens of "ohh what a shame author-chan, it seems your comic is not appealing to webtoon users". And finally they proceed to put the lucky ones on the top of lists, fresh picks and rest of privileged sections.

[Samuraiflame]

Maybe I've just had really steady growth so I'm surprised to hear everyone else's stories.

From what I can tell, the popularity rankings change often when people update (aside from the top 20, who kind of just switch around with each other lol). Just wondering, @Edgmont and @Zugaikotsu, are you guys talking about rankings on the desktop view or mobile view? I know with the mobile view of the list, it includes all comics with a genre tag while the desktop just uses the comic's primary tag, so there's a LOT more competition if you look at it from there.

[Edgmont]

Mobile view. Funny thing is, when Line included the secondary genre, my growth increased a lot. I was always on top 8 from my secondary genre and then was when I started to appear on top 30 from spotlight of my main genre( I still do some days, meanwhile in the general top I'm on 80-140). Maybe that was the reason they aimed to my feet. Perhaps they can't control 24/7 who appears on the spotlight tops, so they just "freeze" the cursed ones stats. Because what's the point of being on top 30 if I get 4 subs? It just doesn't make sense.