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This!! Being a bio grad I would LOVE to see more hard bio/chem out there

@Moesakuara And there are plenty on protestant or independent Christian religious groups that have shown to have less than favorable teachings, specifically in regard to how they treat children. But that doesn't account for all, of course.

But for stories I'd like to see, I guess I want to see more emotional conflicts as opposed to physical ot material conflicts. Not really in the case of romance but between friends, roommates, family members, or community members. I kinda want to see stories focused on people overcoming their differences by confronting their trauma. It'll be a great way to encourage people to discuss these topics and have open dialogue with one another. It's good representation.

Yes, very true. It's definitely hard to tackle, which is why I think it takes a pretty mature story teller to do it in an interesting way. Unless, of course, they are just trying to offend as many people from the over arching dominant social system as possible. Which sometimes has it's place, but then the reader's got to know what they're in for, lol.

I read a beautiful story recently that handled this incredibly well. It's old, but the comic "Flies on the Ceiling," by Gillbert Herndez, does an incredible job exploring religious guilt, triumphs and the pitfalls of coming from a religious family. So good and I feel like it isn't as talked about as more famous stuff with a similar theme like Persepolis.

Gosh you make me think I should’ve consider investing time into my gay werewolf story now :flushed:

As for the actual question,

Sadly most people have already stated my wishes :sweat_smile:

More non romance would be nice, I would absolutely LOVE to see more stories about ace people being single or even gasp a lesbian being a single superstar lady not feeling like she has to get married to be happy :weary:

I’d also generally really love to see more stories that really invest time and energy into world building. More Intresting takes on mythos that arnt the basic bread and butter twilight vampires.

I would also like to see more media with older characters dealing with adventures rather then a bunch of 14 year olds…. Like I still enjoy the 14 year old adventures but variety is the spice of life!

I’ve also recently found out that we need more tiny daddies in the world :no_mouth:

THIS.

And to add to this. A lot of my issues with Christianity goes much deeper than not liking the "bad apples". I have had people try to act that if a church was LGBTQ friendly, then I would join them...I find people who act like this very annoying. I have some issues with the core theology of the Bible itself. I have also had issues with how mistranslated and misinterpreted it has become. The mistranslations are so inter woven into the core belief system that to address them, you would sound like a heretic. Plus the issue with things that are not canon to the Bible being treated like canon, that shit makes no sense IMO.

Yeah. And then you have the whole "missionary" thing, which is... a huge issue in of itself in terms of quote un quote missionary work being used to eradicate other religions and cultures around the world. And just like a regular church, missionary work is rife with people abusing children. I know there is a lot of non fiction covering these issues, and the more the better, but I wonder if there is enough mainstream fiction, especially for younger people, that is allowed to discuss these problems. I'd imagine anything that shows children what that type of abuse looks like would be a huge help in them knowing it when or if they see it or, God forbid, endure it.

Oh yeah totally it shouldn't be lumped with "boo, you said religion bad" and I agree with your other point (my co-writer for my next story wants to do a storyline regarding homosexuals being kicked out). I just want to show people what my father saw in it when he was young in one of the worst cities in California. Like the dude couldn't even talk until he was fifteen and it seemed like had had no where else to go. Nobody knew what to do with him except the Church. He talks about how he used to see deaths every day with me and it's just sounds brutal.

I just get sick of hypocrites pointing fingers while they worship companies clearly taking advantage of them. The story's message isn't "Hey, religion is the only way!" it's more "Hey, you're being taken advantage of just like us. Here's the many, MANY parallels between modern-day Church and Entertainment Companies and how humans will twist things".

I have another story that talks about this but with Disney lmao.

I'm glad your father got help. Losing a community oriented space is so hard. I'm glad he still had one and was able to get the help he needed. As for your story, it sounds fantastic. I had some religious criticism also pairing the hypocrisy of the church with big businesses, though that's been replaced in my story now since it took a more Western turn.

I'm working on one myself, but I would love to see more stories where the female lead is older than the male lead. Not all couples have the male as the oldest. I am not saying make her DRASTICALLY older, but a few years wouldn't hurt.

It would be nice to find more stud with aro-spectrum main characters. I'll find one ore two in a cast here and there, but not many important players in the story. Hell, a story where being Aro-spectrum was something that was discussed outright would be really cool to find.

Because we're worried about making our sci-fi scientifically inaccurate and drawing machines that look functional and identifiable needs intensive research, whereas with fantasy we can just pull things out of our ass without having to worry about external consistency. Even with aliens we feel like we should give some justification of their biology in terms of real life science, otherwise if we treat them as purely fantastical creatures we may as well just write fantasy, or fantasy with sci-fi aesthetics :'D

Wait, is THAT the reason? Because I was thinking of wacky tabaccy "this anatomy doesn't make sense and would never happen in the real world" nonesense. I had a style in mind where the important characters are mostly human palatte swaps while the background characters... well... they just look nonesense. Something Spacy Dandy-esque where the proportions for some aliens make absolutely no sense but you roll with it because the cartoon's universe is utter chaos.

ALTHOUGH I thank you for your message because now I can be like "DON'T WORRY ARTISTS, I'LL ONLY MAKE ALIENS THAT YOU'LL ABLE TO DRAW. TELL ME YOUR LIMITATIONS PLZ".

High fantasy or scifi or battle series, with animal or anthro cast actually.

Stuff like Warrior Cats, Usagi, Ninja Turtles, Redwall or Owls of Ga'hoole

There's just... a HUGE lack in comics like this, and when you do find them you can only find them by digging through community comics, and most of the time, they are made by furries and are porn or suggestive (which is not a bad thing I guess, all power to you, but that's not what I am looking for)

Ohh you mean for commission artists! I guess take what I said with a grain of salt because I was more talking about why artists don't come up with sci-fi stuff to draw :'D But if you designed the alien and they don't have to take any responsibility for making them scientifically correct, I won't pretend to understand why commission artits have more aversion to drawing alien commissions than fantasy creature commissions :'D Machines are still hard though :stuck_out_tongue:

I'd like to see more adult stories that don't have porn, don't have romance as a major genre, or aren't raunchy comedies. There's a TONS of YA webcomics that explore a huge variety of themes, but you don't get much with stories for adults. It would be nice to have that variety with the nuances that only older folks can understand, as well as the freedom that only adult fiction can bring.

Also I want to read more stories about elderly people, there aren't enough of those.

a lot of people are talking about wanting to see ace characters and i, as an asexual, AGREE. I WANTTT. my next webcomic i'll start in like half a year is gonna have a male ace spec protag fs B-)

I was literally just thinking about this. ^^; It's really insane (and kind of sad) how much adult-oriented content swerves away from the plot and everything that actually matters just to shove obvious sex-focused fanservice down the viewer's throat, at every available opportunity. =/

Pretty much any time I start an 'adult' book or TV series or movie (or anime...although tbh I've stopped trying with 'adult' anime), I'm silently begging for the writers to just...focus. Please focus. If I want sex jokes, I'll go to Twitter (at least they'll be clever...) I'm here for the STORY. Just because I am over 18 doesn't mean I can't care about a story.

The problem actually makes the MCU and all its cousins kind of enticing, because despite how formulaic they are, at least you know they care too much about their family-friendly, child-accessible image to do stuff like that...

Stories that are anti-capitalism, not just against a few people abusing their money and power, but that are critical of the elaborate socioeconomic structures designed to subjugate people and show us alternatives.

I feel like what's happening here is that we don't label our stories as adult unless we LITERALLY can't show it to minors without it being morally questionable (e.g. when it involves sex, or incredibly disturbing topics portrayed in a graphic way etc). We do this because we want to maximise our audience, and we don't want to look down on minors for saying that can't understand deep stuff. So we get stories with depth and nuanced that's 'aimed' at adults in that we expect adult to be the ones with a full appreciation of it, but it's not labelled as 'adult' since there's not much reason to actually restrict it to only adults.

So based on that, adult stories that aren't raunchy are limited to stories that deal with incredibly disturbing topics portrayed in graphic ways. I find we tend to like restricting graphic material of the disturbing variety because it's 'glorification' or 'shock value', and we should portray sensitive things with taste, where taste usually translates to not directly depicting the event or describing it in too much detail. I don't necessarily disagree with this; a lot of the time graphicness really isn't necessary to get our point across and it's great we can do so while maximizing accessibility for minors and those of us who might get triggered. But it does mean non-raunchy adult stuff is necessarily very limited :no_mouth:

@DokiDokiTsuna Man, I hate it! Adult animation is so crap most of the time, it's always edgy or sexual comedy, the animation is hideous, the audience is treated like they're stupid. Why can't we get quality stuff? Same with live action movies/shows and books, when the story isn't horror it seems the default is to make it sexual, I don't get it. Do people get dumber as they grow up and can't handle nuance or subtilty? Are my expectations for adults too high?

Gosh the MCU can do SO MUCH if they stopped caring about families and just told a story, but you gotta reach the widest possible audience. It's almost fascinating because they feel like they should be for adults, but aren't, and it's kinda uncanny.

@TheLemmaLlama ... I feel like that second paragraph is a jab at my comic, it's probably not, but I've been called a fetishist and edgelord before because I deal with upsetting topics. Regardless! It's not the same thing? Fiction that is kid friendly has a distinctive style separate from adult fiction, stuff with kids in mind tend to be more simplistic in execution and don't feature certain topics purely because they don't have the life experience or brain development to empathize or comprehend them. You can also see the distinction in the casting, child inclusive fiction have younger characters, while adult centric fiction usually have older adults. Also adult fiction can lean on the experimental side, being more abstract/surreal because the intended audience can comprehend it for the most part. There are also things fiction can tackle that children find boring unless they're super dumbed down, like politics, money, existentialism, religion, culture.
Sure, there are kids who can empathize with older characters, comprehend abstract concepts and all that jazz, but they're not very common.

I get the reason why everyone makes their work friendly for most/all ages, but that doesn't really change that I want adult fiction, not "adult" fiction. Call me a monster, but I would like to read stories that are clearly for an older audience, that aren't child friendly in style and concept. Kids have SO MANY stories they can read, the mass majority of movies, shows, comics and books are YA or G rated. Also I disagree, they don't always have to be "edgy" or "fetishy/glorification" to be for adults, we're not all mentally immature Hot Topic rejects, just some of us. In case that bit was related to my comic, I don't consider my work to be an example of what I mean. Yeah, it's clearly for adults, but it's a super niche story that only about 1% of people would like. Like, not even adults like my comic. Lol