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Aug 2017

So I was wondering, for those of you who have been working on your comic for a long time, how do you feel about your first pages? Do you look back and think they're horrible compared to what you can do now? How long ago did you start them? Do most independent comic makers feel a level of satisfaction with the entirety of their work, or will your skills keep growing too fast for your old pages to look good anymore?

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bleugh. bleugugghuguthtugh. dont like em.

my skills and style developed rapidly over the year ive been making my comic and i dont like looking at pages i made just last month, so no pages i made a year ago are not my friends.

that said... i think its slowly coming to a point when i can look on them with a kind of affection, and appreciate what was good about them (even if it werent a lot) i mean, people read them, then read the rest of my comic? they cant be that bad

My first pages were done like... February last year, and I have to admit that I find them pretty ugly. My current comic has been my first attempt at a full colour comic, so when starting out I was still getting the hang of colouring pages so everything is just hideous! I was also surprised to see my anatomy improved a bit? So the early pages are a bit ugly in colour and proportions.
I'm not particularly satisfied with how I've presented my story so far, but the pages are satisfying to finish so I'm pretty chill about it. Maybe someday I'll go back to fix some messed up parts, but that won't be till I feel like it... or if I miraculously turn my comic into a physical book.

I actually made myself "bare all" and show my very first comics alongside my latest comics. I started updating on Tapas with an 11 year old comic and will be going all the way until now, so everybody gets to see precisely how much I sucked back then! :smiley:

Anyhow, my feelings while uploading stuff (especially the first one Awake2, which I only had tiny jpeggy files of because I have no idea where my originals are after all this time) were a mixture of "jeez look at this baloney I was doing, HA!" and genuine pride and nostalgia as I remembered how hard I worked, how excited I was, and what the stories meant to me. Going down memory lane and being forced to confront all my old work was the best thing I could have ever done, because it got me excited about comics again.

I do have much earlier pages and drafts of an unreleased comic I'll be launching after I finish all the other uploads, and those I plan to look at for inspiration/storyboarding but I will definitely be COMPLETELY REDRAWING them. They'll probably be part of a pdf showing the process of the comic at some later date. But I don't feel the original pages have a place in the new comic, for sure.

I honestly still feel pretty good about my old pages?? Every now and then someone (coughmysisters*cough*) will reread my comic and tell me things like "you should redraw" and "you're soooooooooo much better now!!" but while I know I've improved a lot, I still think my first pages are pretty solid and I'm not tempted to go back to them.

I don't think they're horrible, but the early pages of my comic are certainly much simpler, especially in terms of toning. As I've gotten faster at page production, I've been able to be more specific about character shading, environment details, texturing etc. So when I look back at old pages, they feel a little flat by comparison:


(Old page from late 2014 on the left, new page from ~July on the right.)

Most of all, I think my old pages lack the confidence of the newer ones, which is to be expected. It takes a while to get a feel for how you want things to look, especially the characters. It took me about a chapter and a half before I really knew how to consistently draw the MCs.

I'm not going to re-draw those old pages, though I'll probably go back and add some extra shading and fix some wonky character art when I compile everything into a volume 1 book.

I feel very glad I've improved quite a lot in these past few months and even weeks.

Looking back, It feels more like an accomplishment than anything else.

I also still like my earlier pages. I look back with fondness for sure. They are about 6 years old now. I got a lot better as the comic went on, but I think I maintained the general style and tone of comic throughout the story, so its not hugely distracting to read it from the beginning.

This sounds a lot like me as well. I think my early pages were rather simplistic and took a long to do. I'm a faster artist now and my pages are better put together. I love your style Michelle, it's really beautiful! All the way from the beginning!

In terms of re-drawing, I only redrew a little bit on the first few pages, due to sizing issues with the printer and the fact I had my pages formatted funny at first. But they were minor things and no one really notices, I don't think. :blush:

There are plans to redo the first chapter because it causes such personal agony going back to the first pages

On the bright side, it means improvements and progress is being made

I think the first pages are cringe worthy... and I am worried they may turn some new readers off :disappointed_relieved: haha Though I did those pages well over two years ago.... So it's nice to see improvement

I actually look forward to the day I look back at my current pages and feel the way I do about my first pages. ^_^ Gotta take satisfaction in the proof of improvement!

(As a reader if I don't like the first few pages of art I make a point to see the new art and if I like it. There have been a few comics I subscribed to that I wouldn't of normally because of this lol)

My old art is... uughhh I made it sooo long ago. lol
I just started revamping my comic last year so here are the first page comparison. even from the new first page I'm seeing that I'm getting better.
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The first few pages of Aiiro No Kunoichi are super cringy for me, haha. Like @Alamino, I sometimes worry that new readers are turned off by said pages, and have been tempted to redraw them many times. :stuck_out_tongue:

I do have a bit of a soft spot for them though, just because I can tell I've improved quite a bit since then. It's amazing how much your art can improve over the years!

Thank you!! That makes me so happy :heart:( ´罒`*)

Yeah, I think a lot of change comes with practice! Eventually you get into such a groove of doing pages that you're able to do more with the same amount of time, or less time even.

I have a bit of a love hate relationship with my earlier art but I can say over the span of time from when I started to now my art's grown a lot, from my own perspective and what I've heard from peers. I've considered changing and redoing older works but I like to keep it there as a reminder of where I started to where my art stands now. If there's any one thing I look at as far as older pages is that I probably wouldn't have grown at all had I not taken that first step and shared my work to begin with.

o dang, thanks everyone for answering! I have a hard time accepting old work and I've never done such a large project, so I'm glad I could get some feedback from vet creators. I guess it's pretty unrealistic to expect to be completely satisfied with 100% of your own comic forever :U

My first pages were almost exactly a year ago, and I actually don't dislike them as much as I thought I would. The backgrounds were amateurish, but characters and poses still aren't that bad, and there's no a significant difference in style between them and the latest ones, in the sense that you look at them and go "oh yeah, there's the art style improvement". (This actually makes me feel a little bad, that I've been drawing for a year and haven't seen dramatic changes lol)

However, I think the level of polish between 1st and last pages has drastically increased. Pages with similar subject matter below, with the first drawn ~11 months before the second; there's much more focus on directional lighting, backdrops, and dynamic panel layout in the second page.

If I actually get to the point of printing this comic as a standalone book, I might go back and retouch some of the panels on the first few pages I'm not entirely satisfied with, but before then I just accept that the oldest pages are a little shaky and move on.

The first page of Runewriters was drawn 7 years ago!!

It's honestly very hard to not want to apologise for the first chapter of RW at this point when folks read the comic, for both art and storytelling reasons. I just do my best to remember that people liked it then, and it hasn't changed -- the things they liked are still in there in the early chapters. I've just gotten better!

So I kind of tend to have the "okay, I promise it gets better later....!" feeling about Chapter One, but I do have faith in my characters, and that's something I feel like I can lean on -- if you like them, and you like the tone and humour, then you can enjoy it through the colouring struggles and pacing stumbles to make it to the chapters where I'd figured things out a little more!

The wild part is how, in 7 more years, maybe I'll feel the same way about the pages I'm drawing now! Though I don't know if I want to think about how I'll feel about chapter 1 in 7 more years. xD

My first pages were actually given lots and lots of care, so I don't mind them.

It's the couple of chapters after them that makes me want to die of embarrassment.

Yo, it's so exciting to hear from the creators who notice huge leaps in technical skill from page 1. This alone is motivation to keep at it -- you guys are forging new territory, don't stop, don't stop!

I haven't actually placed my first page against my newest, I gotta see this now.

Page one on the left was completed in May 2015, and page 200 August 2017. Two years and some months time travel here. I don't feel like it's ghastly gasp horrible but yeeeaah, it could use a lot of work. It does make me really happy to see the progress, though. Really looking forward to the next two years!

I'm completely okay with my old art not looking as good as my current stuff. My current comic is only <3 years old at this time, but even older art from like... 10 years ago? I'm totally fine if people see them and notice my new stuff is better.

My old writing, on the other hand......!