I feel your pain, OP. My first comic was very introspective and while it wasn't religion-based (it was a murder mystery, where the murder had nothing to religion, ha) and out of the 5 main cast members, one was a practicing Christian, three couldn't care less about their spiritual lives, and one was an atheist... and I used those facts in the story a lot.
One thing I noticed about making that comic is that introspective comics in general are really hard to make. You want to avoid talking heads, but it makes it difficult to have introspective conversations. Mostly I was doing showing instead of telling (the theme was how desire for revenge will tear you apart), so I was trying to show how these people's obsession with revenge was tearing their lives apart... but dang, it is hard! The comic I'm doing now, which is for my siblings and has a distinct lack of anything thoughtful, is much, much easier. Webcomic creators are doing this all in their spare time, and so we tend to have to keep it as simple as possible.
In response to your other question, no, I very rarely enjoy Christian media. I don't think I've ever found an explicitly Christian comic that I enjoyed. It sucks, because I love Christianity a lot (I was a Benedictine novice for a year... I mean, I REALLY LOVE IT!) That said, my favorite book series is C.S. Lewis' Space Trilogy.
The main problem with Christian media is that, yeah, it's all propaganda. Let's be serious here, guys: for centuries Christians were creating amazing music and amazing art and amazing literature for no reason than that they loved God. And now people create "Christian" stuff not because they love God, but because they want to sell Christianity to the masses. The focus is all wrong.
You hit the nail right on the head @misshoneyham
Christianity has become more of a selling point to "Christians". It doesn't have to be all that creative, it just has to be "Oh yeah, I like God and stuff" and it becomes the source of flocking, meaning everyone who has this one trait might as well be a part of it just because it has that one minority trait.
But if you knew Christ's heart, he said (I don't remember where, so don't quote me unless you can find it too) don't tell anyone after doing any miracle. Simply, he wanted to be subtle, he wanted to be an example, and not an "in your face" evangelist. That goes for any good "Christian" media. You don't have to be in anyone's face about Christ or Christianity or the fact that "You're going to Hell if you don't". I really despise that.
Being a believer, I want to help change the industry, both comics and "Christian" comics. I'll just write and draw, and show my beliefs through example, not by shoving it down people's throats.
Well, this thread caught my eye.
I... am unsure if this is what you are looking for, but I am a atheist writing a comic with some fairly overt religious themes, including christian ones (mostly because it deals with gods and one of the main characters is a christian.) I'm kind of fascinated by religion and religious thought as a whole, so, uh, if you would like an outsider's take on it, I guess I can sheepishly raise my hand.7
It's more narrative driven, though. Looking at your example it looks like your looking for more encapsulated thought experiments (thinking of that "Why, Though?" link in particular.) then the more surrealistic thing I'm doing. Still, I thought I'd share since this is something I am genuinely interested in.
I don't know if this is a recent development but it's always seemed to me there's a big divide between "CHRISTIAN" media and media that happens to have Christian themes.
In other words, The Chronicles of Narnia is a great story from a Christian's point of view. C.S. Lewis did not set out to nurture anyone's biases, make money off of religious people, or convert anyone. He just wanted to write a good story and who he was came through in the text.
Christian movies, music, and comics that get made these days are designed to push an agenda first and foremost, always at the expense of making the material actually good. Stuff like God's Not Dead or anything Kirk Cameron's made in the last twenty years has a built-in audience of people who will see it to have their biases confirmed. They also get tied up in gross political agendas that have more to do with specifically capitalist American Christian ideals, which are outright harmful to society and have little to nothing to do with actual Christianity.
I should probably come clean at this point and say I'm a non-believer who writes a satirical religious horror comedy called Andy Christ2. I may not be the source you're looking for but my advice would be this: Don't start writing anything with the goal to "make people think." This is a mistake I've made a couple times myself and if you look at my comics, I think you can tell where I stopped making a conscious effort to do that and just be funny and let the story happen. People are insulted when they feel preached at. If you're a good writer, whatever you're trying to say will come through in smarter, more subtle ways, and it WILL make people think. But it's one of those things that if it's your goal, you shoot yourself in the foot.
Don't bill your comic as "Christian" because you don't know what kind of positive or negative assumptions people are going to project onto it. Like it or not, America has made "Christian" into a very politically charged word. An evangelical looking for a Christian comic and finding yours may be upset if you've got nothing to say about the evils of gay marriage and the war on Christmas. Others might see that your comic is "Christian" and skip it for the exact opposite reason; they may assume you'll be pushing that nonsense.
I also don't think you'd want to limit yourself to an audience of only Christians. The fact of the matter is if you strip Christianity of all its mythology and modern politics, you're left with a pretty decent set of philosophies for being a decent human being. Its values are largely universal, love thy neighbor, judge not, etc. You could write an entire story and never once use the words "Jesus" or "Christian" and still end up with a Christian story without alienating anybody or pushing an agenda.
Everybody else already said it, but I'll just add a note.
There are stories like "Facing the Giants," where it preached the story, while Narnia just tells the story.
Although I am a Christian, I hate watching Christians films, as they were often done poorly. Movies like Narnia, the Bible series, Exodus, and Lord of the Rings, they were pretty much done right, as it was telling the story.
If I want to hear a sermon, there are pastors or the actual Bible. If I want to check out a story, there are medias of all forms that I can look.
In my story, Legend of the Crusading Artist, the character is a Christian, but that is not the main focus of the story. The focus is about his journey as an artist, through skills alone or with help (whether supernatural or physical). There may be some "Easter Eggs" that I'll throw in, and at the end, I could explain the easter egg with the verses. Throwing in a snipbit of verses can be fun, as it may either encourage the reader to check it out or throw in good moral lesson for others.
I have one verse that might sound silly, but for the story, it'll be radically funny.
For a bit of comedic uplifting, someone made a thread on reddit called "What would the Bible be like if Dr. Seuss wrote it?". The results were pretty hysterical (Disclaimer: this is not meant as an offense to serious Christians, it's just good comic relief to keep our heads on straight x3). This one seems to be the 10 commandments written as a Dr. Seuss rhyme:
Don't stabbeth your neighbor with a big pointy knife,
Or covet his buxomous, lustimous wife.
And honor thy parents, they raised you so well,
But don't honor false gods or you'll go straight to hell.
Don't steal from your neighbors, not soft furs nor breads,
Or falsely claim Jacob wears frogs on his head.
Don't cheat on your spouse, for it would be a pain,
To wake up to her screaming my own name in vain.
Remember young Jews, take the sabbath with glee,
But remember, you shall have no other gods before me.
I think it's important to note that people's perspective of "Christian" has no real bearing on the quality of a comic, and because art should be made regardless of the demands and desires of the people, I don't think posing your comic as "Christian" has any real negative effects. Unless, of course, you're looking for likes and views and subscribers, in which case, that would be a good point.
I also think it's VERY important to note that the cornerstone philosophy of Christianity is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, and strength- which is pretty much amoral and has little to do with "being a decent human being".
Also, why does having a Christian themed comic have to have a Christian audience only? I personally am directing my comic to anyone BUT Christians. Just a thought.
I don't think anybody could be offended by a Dr. Seuss 10 commandments @UzukiCheverie =P Thanks for that ^^
There is so much wrong with this thread it is hard to begin. Individual posts contain so much absurdity that the entire thread would be comedic if the stakes weren't so high. This thread has not only abandoned all logic, it has also abandoned both brevity and wit.
Candor is not disrespect. Candor is the highest form of respect. Secondly, if you think the truth is harsh, trying living in denial of the truth. Third, unless you walked a mile in my zapatos, you should not give me life advice.
If you think religion is not important, try operating your computer without an operating system.
And let's not indulge the fantasy that all points of view are welcome when we have members that flag every post that offends them.
I ASK YOU: HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BE A GREAT ARTIST WHEN YOU CENSOR EVERYTHING THAT OFFENDS YOU?
If you think Christianity is a den of hypocrites, try living in non-Christian societies. [joke edited to appease the humorless.]
To be fair, your posts were flagged because you were insulting people. Criticising ideas and practices are perhaps fine to a degree but making fun or calling people who are not like you (atheists, non-heterosexuals, etc.) unintelligent is not. And we were following the rules. Hence the flags.
Perhaps this isn't the right place for you to discuss what you want to talk about. We all come from different walks of life and may silently disagree with other people's lifestyles, but we've done a fairly good job at keeping everything civil in these forums despite it being part of the Internet. And we would like to keep it that way.
My advice to you is to take a deep breath and stay away from the internet temporarily. You can come back once you're capable of having a calm discussion without the constant need to challenge people and pick fights.
Well, this thread isn't about atheists or homosexuals. And neither is the other topic where your replies were flagged. So you went out of topic, broke a couple of rules and got flagged. Nothing complicated about that.
Edit: oops. Almost fell into that trap. The talk of atheist and homosexual isn't the point of of my reply. I was hoping to discourage you from taking out your anger on the people and their opinions in threads like these. It's not worth anyone's time.
@Jimbo I don't really get you. You have a comic on a transwoman and wrote in the looking for LGBT+ comics thread , so I assumed you didn't see anything wrong with LGBT+ people. When you posted that drawing of Jesus coming out of the closet, I found it funny, because it seemed to me that you were, indeed, not into Bible thumping. But now you sound more conservative than I thought, calling atheists stupid as a rule, and finding a silly joke sacrilegious. What's going on, am I having visions, so to speak? Is your comic bait, and maybe for our LGBT+ folks and you will tear the transwoman apart?
This thread is not about homosexuals or atheists. Therefore all posts unrelated to the primary post and title are therefore off topic and should be flagged.
You have threads about gays, Spanish speakers, authors looking for followers in the disguise of seeking writing advice, but the minute a Christian thread pops up, the anti-Christ people flag any promotion or association Christian artists may want to engage in.
That's a fact. Nothing complicated about that. [comments omitted to satisfy the flaggers and anti-debaters]
my art is my expression. You are free to interpret it in any way you want. It exists outside of me.
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I will only say it is based on true events.
I am Bible thumping because this is a Bible thumping thread and I seek common cause with people who share my worldview.
I posted a drawing of Jesus getting thrown in the closet because I see new totalitarianism. When I call atheists stupid as a rule because when a man isolates himself from his God he becomes subject to sin, he becomes quite literally, deaf, dumb (silent) and blind. The atheist must worship something outside himself because he knows he is mortal and the thought of his death is unthinkable. He therefore makes himself God echoing the dictum of Satan "Do What Thou Wilt." When I call atheists stupid as a rule I am just quoting the Bible.
Like I said, the point of this thread is to find other Bible Thumpers not debate or defend the Bible. But if the Bible is attacked like it has been on this thread, I will pick it up.
Most of you folks reading this are younger than me so take an older man's advice, pick your operating system wisely for everyman's life is continuation of debate between dead philosophers.
What say you?