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Dec 2015

I always thought twilight was pretty innocuous, even at its worse. Vampires are sorta timeless and will be reinvented till oblivion. People are gonna humanize them or cast them in weird situations or whatever it's not a big deal as far as I am concerned. The Witchers take on vampires is pretty interesting (I've only read the novels, not played the games.) So that's modern right?

As far as the modern look is concerned eh.

eh is all I have to say.

Not to mention she was even throwing herself to danger just to see him because she had hallucinations from all this depression :/

Because of that there's so many pedo jokes around Jacob lol.

No way, vampires are still very interesting. Can't say I actively seek them out but when I come across them I don't roll my eyes. Twilight and what it has/hasn't done for the vampires doesn't really come into it, it's about the creators all the different spins they put on them.

Here's a comic on this site containing vampires that I'm enjoying immensely : Sweet Talk1

And another I cannot stop reading: Thicker Than Blood2

If the characters and the story were well-written, it wouldn't have ruined vampires. Regardless of the concept and the author's take on vampires, what ruined it was that the story sucked and a lot of people liked it. That is what ruined vampires on romantic stories, not the stupid sparklyness.

I guess you didn't liked this sparky sparks idea XD

It's like giving werewolves glow-in-the-dark nails. Suddenly, it's just a bad OC in some terrible fanfic.

Oh wait that's exactly what it is :U

I would love to see a werewolf with glow in the dark nails! It would be wonderful! Honestly people make to much of a big deal about vampires and werewolves. They don't always need to be serious stories. You can write them with humor. Honestly there should be more of a diversity in stories with vampires in it. It is kinda always the same thing I rarely read anything that has vampires and werewolves in it because it is kinda bland. Twilight doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things.

If the story about the werewolf with the glowing nails was written with humor then it would work. But sparkling vampires didn't work because Twilight took itself way too seriously. It's difficult to find stories about werewolves and vampires that don't take themselves too seriously and honestly I think the concept has been so overdone it would be better to choose a different concept instead. The same thing has happened with zombies and viruses. The only good option we have left is ghosts but the scary aspect is so overdone we don't even have that anymore.

or create new monsters! well I personally think sparkling vampire can work with humor also! I do know that twilight took itself to seriously and it is one of the part of it. The other horrible part of it is ( and the worst) is the Romanization of abusive relationship otherwise I would be fine with twilight if it was only poorly written. but yeah people should just write thing they like not thing that are popular right now.

Twilight didn't ruin vampires for me because I will never watch it, read it or care about it. ^__^

Yeah, I think the popularity of 'Twilight' was more a sign that vampires had been ruined than the thing that ruined them. As Anne Rice put it, vampires are a symbol of exclusion. When vampires are part of an inclusive story, they've lost what makes them them.

it depends. There are 2 types of vampires, the gritty scary "why is this happening to me" character vampires. Then there are the vampires that I feel ruined it, the "lets have an orgy because we're vampires and sex maniacs". Seriously the level of sexual energy injected into vampire story lines are so out played and boring to me. It's really just an opinion and I understand that it still does well among readers, more power to you.

I think a lot of reason behind that is because back in the Victorian era where the fad became a literary thing, vampires' appeal was how they were released of the prude constraints of the society at the time. (sex = bad) so it became a metaphor as the release of such a conservative upbringing.

Now days, everything is about sex. Sex is hyped up in certain aspects (as long as it fits the heteropatriarchal eye candy but that's another topic altogether) the only way a vampire can be SHOCKING now is just...orgies, yeah.

I think some writers have handled it well, there's a character in What We Do In The Shadows who falls under that trope and it's handled brilliantly, but most of the time, yes, I agree with you. It's played out, cliche, and boring when poorly done.

YES! But you also have to realize that twilight was meant for teen but it ended up for kids no older than 12, and some grown women (which is sad to me) because of the romance.
My friend loved the books until the movies came and ruined it for her. I hated twilight from the start because it made vamps look weak. I loved the blade and underworld series which had little romance good plot and action.
Now every time someone creates a show or movie about vamps it's all about sex, lust, and relationships. Which is why I still avoid them now, which is bad because alot of comics and Manga I skip because of that, without giving it a chance.

That's actually a misconception about Victorian Britain. People still boned like mad, back then, it just wasn't spoken of, openly. There were also much higher stakes to sex (read: pregnancy), so sex-for-fun was less common among the kind of women that couldn't dispose of an unwanted pregnancy without raising eyebrows.

The stiff upper lip was a reaction against the Georgians who really were into drunken, orgiastic behavior. The Georgian era was a magnification of the Restoration period, which reveled in the freedoms denied by the Protectorate period (see: Oliver Cromwell).

The popularity of vampires in gothic literature (from the Victorian era) had a lot more to do with xenophobia than sexual repression. There was a relatively large influx of Eastern Europeans into Great Britain, at the time, many of whom still followed folk religions or synchronized Catholicism. They had lower standards of hygiene and little regard for social hierarchy. All of which translated into "rude, filthy pagans" to the British. Mind, the British were finding "rude, filthy pagans" all over the place (see: British Empire), but the Eastern Europeans weren't coming into the country as servants, the way many Africans or Indians were; they were the "rude, filthy pagans" that couldn't be controlled. And, of course, the great fear was that these people would corrupt impressionable young women, hence the sexual angle.

Well, damn

Thank you so much for clarifying that I feel a little silly now haha

but yeah, thank you!