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Sep 2019

Hey y'all, I normally only do page format stuff, so as I'm switching some stories over to webtoon format I've noticed that it's...kinda hard on my computer to draw a page that long. And because of the length it just sometimes feels like the ratio at which I'm drawing is smaller? Like the zoom feels different when it's that length, it's hard to explain but I have a much easier time drawing when it's shorter. (that and clip studio has been very mad at me for doing a superlong page that I also work on in Photoshop, so the save for this massive file since it saves to a large photoshop file is just...it takes like 20 seconds.)

So I was wondering, since a lot of people have webtoons that have single panels the width of the page surrounded by background area--do you draw your panels in chunks and then compile them into a chapter when you're done, or do you stick em all on one huge page from the start?

how do you guys get around the slowdown of doing a document of that length?

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I run into this problem too. When I can't handle a document, I'll cut it in two and work on them separately. I keep palettes and settings for each week so things stay consistent so this works. It's awkward. I space my panels really close together for webtoons format because my computer can't handle it otherwise. I've found my machine's tipping point is 45,000 pixels or 3 GB of active memory. Anything over this and it blows up & starts using swap. What you really need is more RAM. If you've got an extra slot for RAM don't be shy about adding some, chips are generally pretty cheap. I've maxed my ram so I need one of those 26 core machines Apple keeps promising and not delivering. I literally need 2 GPUs. How did my life come to this?

Yeah, it's so weird, I do 3d stuff on this computer so I have 12 GB of RAM currently, but I guess my clip studio document is just so massive it acts like this? Like maybe there's just a tipping point for Clip that it just freaks if it's over a certain size no matter what?

I have an OK laptop but it chugs once the file is longer than 25,000pixels (I work at 300 DPI in case I ever am fortunate to print my comic...), so I break my files into roughly 3-5 panels a chunk. I storyboard at a low dpi so I can work out a good flow for the panels (like 10 panels), then split them up. Example:

This works for me great but I've had to learn proper file organization, otherwise I'm lost in a sea of files -__-

Once you're done you can load all your high-res files to Croppy:
https://knicknic.github.io/croppy/187

which will automatically resize down to Webtoon's 800 x 1280px requirement per page, so no matter what size/page lengths you work at, Croppy will take the hard work of formatting off your hands!

I hope some of this helps! Half the comic battle is finding a workflow that doesn't make you want to rip your hair out... haha!

Its all about if your computer can handle the size of the workload ^^;

For me, I usually do 2500x20000px with 350 dpi and make like 4 or 5 pages of those in csp. Then I turn to photoshop and edit the pacing between the panels, as well as reducing the width to 800px and such. When connecting the end of page one and start of page two, I usually just guess and go for it shrugs well you can always edit if theres anything wrong when seeing the preview either in tapas or webtoons cuz ull see the whole thing connected there

My computer was built to do art on so it runs things great! But I rely on the navigator a lot and get frustrated working on large files so my process goes like this:

  1. Using my template I'll do the draft and panels on a canvas I expand indefinitely to fit my episode.
    1600px width (x) whatever height.
  2. Save as one big flat image for later.
  3. Crop and resave CSP files into 3-5 panel "pages"
  4. Work on pages till complete. Save as PNG
  5. Add typesetting to those pages. Save as PNG
  6. Open the big flat image in photoshop. Place the finished pages on top. Hide original draft.
  7. Downsize & Slice to post.
  8. Use the clean (no typesetting) png images to make a thumbnail or other art.

*Edit: My updates tend to range from 25-35 panels. I also find slicing into these "pages" helps the episode feel less daunting than one giant neverending file.

Ah super super helpful guys--looks like a lot of people are splitting pages to polish and then compiling them later! Thank you all so much for the input!