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I guess the biggest thing I've been dealing with recently is a creeping since of pointlessness. I've been doing more of my own personal work instead of letting myself be bogged down with aimless studying. It's much more fun, but there are still times when it'll feel like I've been working so long and have nothing worthwhile to show. I sometimes wonder if deep down it could be that I'm just lazy (I'm not completely against hard work, but I can start to question it if I don't feel like I see a meaningful outcome i.e A part time job has a foreseeable "meaningful" outcome in the since that you know you'll get a paycheck at the end and that you'll have helped out a business.), or maybe its got something to do with the fact that I've been slowly trying to pull myself out of a very depressive state (I'd heard it can be very hard to to remember who you were after depression.), but it can feel hard to shake the feeling that I'm working so hard for nothing.

I'd heard that when you feel like this a great way to feel better is to reconnect with what made you love art in the first place. I tried looking at some of the old cartoons I used to be inspired by, but i don't think it made me feel any different. I know I post a lot of mopey threads like this, but this seemed important enough to upload. Does anyone else have trouble with this; wondering why you started and continue to pursue something? Do you sometimes feel like the output of what you made may never be able to justify the input of effort? If you do feel like this how do you cope? I can't see myself stopping drawing anytime soon, but I have to say I've never felt myself be overcome with such a sense of "meaninglessness" towards my work. Any thoughts?

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Well I suppose my case is different because art helps me to be in peace. For me more than a hobby is something that I just feel I need to do, even if people don't care and even if it's just doodling squares.

Sometimes I start to think that I should focus in something more productive in order to increase my income instead of doodling, but I just have to O_O. I just feel special when I try to draw and I enjoy the moment.

Listening to music while playing with ink and brushes, for me is a moment of happiness. Like when I was a kid and I used to stay half of my Saturday doing crappy paintings at my school. It was never the outcome but the feelings. Like when you eat your favorite chocolate in small pieces and enjoy it melting in your mouth...

In writing, sometimes people write diaries for self-expression. It's not different for drawing or painting. Think of it less like art you want to please others with, and more a form of mental health therapy. I'm honestly surprised therapists don't recommend painting and journaling, as it's helped me chill out quite a bit over the years.

There are still chatrooms I wont name, that put me on edge. But journaling and painting therapuetically allows me to take time away, and settle down.

And now, i don't mean "Just Calm Down" trolls like to say, in reality meaning the opposite. Pure doublespeak.

Struggling with the same feeling lately. I hope I'd make a career out of drawing, almost made it, then everything crashed and I moved it back to a hobby.
Now I'm one year in to the webcomic, a project I love and I can do without strings, and that gained very little success. Still have to find a way to cope with it, but at least...know you're not alone ^^

Does anyone else have trouble with this; wondering why you started and continue to pursue something?
I think pretty much everyone has experienced this at one point or another. I used to have more trouble with this back when I was still a beginner and trying to find an art style I was comfortable with. I'd always compare my art to others (and still do sometimes) and wonder, "Why bother? I'll never make art like that." So, to answer your next question...

Do you sometimes feel like the output of what you made may never be able to justify the input of effort?
Yes.

If you do feel like this how do you cope?
I read an artist's advice once that said you need to balance out the time you spend looking at other people's art and your art. It's good to immerse yourself in other works because it can provide inspiration and you can really learn from analyzing those works. Sometimes I force myself to stop scrolling past every artwork and take the time to analyze all of the details -- how the clothing is shaded, what colors are used, the anatomical structure, etc.

But you can't just look at other people's artwork; you need to immerse yourself in your own too. And learning that has helped me a lot. Whenever I start to feel like my work is inferior, I keep myself from looking at other people's art. I go through my art folders and see the journey of my progress. I'll put on slideshows with my art and analyze that instead -- what I like, what I dislike, what I could improve on, what I've already improved on, etc.

And after that, I draw. Even if I can't draw anything I really like, I keep drawing until I've filled a few sketchbook pages. Because eventually, I get to a point where I am satisfied. It's like working out for me; my muscles might be stiff and sore to start with, but once I warm up and get into it, that's when I can enjoy myself and make progress.

I can't see myself stopping drawing anytime soon, but I have to say I've never felt myself be overcome with such a sense of "meaninglessness" towards my work. Any thoughts?
Don't forget that studying is just as important as drawing for yourself; it will help you feel better about your art when you can see the improvement. And I don't just mean studying from a book or reading a tutorial, but just studying artworks you like to see what you want to do differently. Finding the best method of studying will be pretty helpful (i.e. for me it's been classes, though I'm out of school now).

I had a long period of art block where I felt like my work was going nowhere, and it's because I was going through a depressive episode. I didn't have the energy to read any tutorials or look at a book or watch any art videos, so my art remained stagnant and I became frustrated. It was only when I started trying to actively learn again that I got out of my art block and became motivated to draw more, once I could see the little ways that I was improving.

TL;DR: Try to combine studying with personal work and spend time just looking at your art instead of comparing it, that's basically my advice!

For me, I've decided that I'm going to do what I love or die. Best to live a short happy life than a prolonged life of sadness and misery. & I don't believe that art is risky as it used to be in the old days. We have the internet, and we're able to market ourselves and reach people a lot more easier.

Contrary to popular belief, I don't feel learn art or doing anything you're passionate about shouldn't feel like hard work. Though you want to keep challenging yourself. The mindset of playing a video game, though challenging, you're in the flow state focused and filled with joy.

I guess questions to ask yourself is "Why does this feel meaninglessness" is it subconscious coming from past thoughts of peers or family that devalue your work? If so, those thoughts don't belong to you. Is it money? Do you prioritize happiness in your life? Anything that makes you happy is meaningful. Friends or thoughts that make you unhappy is meaningless. Why do you still continue even if it feels meaningless? These are questions I feel you should chill in a quiet place, turn on some nature sounds and ponder the thought. You have more experience of your life than anyone else. Take it slow and be easy on yourself.

On my Youtube I do in-depth self-help tutorials to help artist with creative blockages. Look through any of them and see if you find anything that helps :slight_smile: ."Reconnect with your love of art" should be a great video idea to add to the list.

11 months later

Oof I've got some advice for you sonny

Or maybe not...since Im trying to figure it out?

Okay, so I had this comic on tapas.Im no BL lover or fujioshi or whatever,but I had this comic on tapas exploring the relationship of two boys in the 1940s,called Questionable. It got on New/Noteworthy and got super big. Its was getting a hundred new subs everyday while on there. I got to 1.7k but I HATED my art, I HATED where the story was going. I took a break during my exams and with all the space to breathe I realised I didnt want to do it anymore. I was stressed and bummed about it.

I announced on that comic that its stopping and meanwhile I'm starting a new one,Monochopsis. I got about 300 readers on my new series and got to work. I LOVE this new story concept and I LOVE the art and it even had color this time.
But the likes were cut in half. And the readers were stagnant. The comments dwindled.

But im not as upset as I was when doing the first comic. Because I like the story and art. The feeling of pointlessness comes and goes but make sure youre doing it for urself most of all. Cheesy,yeah.

But that said I miss the numbers i got on Questionable. I miss people really caring. So i dont know right now. So...incomplete advice. Maybe you guys could give me some??pfft

When i get that way i use my emotions for inspiration