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I lost a bet, and now I need to write a BL series that is at least 10 chapters long. Obviously the goal is mainly to have fun, but I'd also like to make it good. Does anyone have any advice?

I have a generic fantasy-comedy series on Tapas already, so I have a small amount of experience on using the actual website. (I'm not linking that series here, because this isn't a promotion post, but if you want to read it just search for 'Erra'.)

Basically, what do readers want to see, and is there anything other writers recommend doing - or wish they knew before they started.

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Nah, it was a fair bet. If I won the other guy would've had to start cosplaying.

Besides, I like writing in general, and I've got plenty of free time already. I may as well try to have fun with it.

Grab some dice or prompts off some websites / D&D sites and see what sticks with you.

Lots of generic BL stories are high school or school themed, or suddenly working together themed. The "we just met and fell in love" kind of stories. Splash it up with your own kind of fantasy and comedy.
Besides 10 chapters doesn't say they all have to be over 3,000 words a chapter :smiley:

I will say that if you're wanting to keep this just to 10 chapters, once you figure out your premise, conflict/climax and ending/conclusion, then write a quick bullet point of events. Not every story needs to end with a happy ending, or where people expect it to end.

Opposites attracts and/or enemies to lovers is :weary::ok_hand:

If I knew that, I would be popular already. Just write a story with the main male couple that appeals to you. If it flies, fine. If not...

The fastest growing series in BL I saw had the shy male lead facing abuse in high school or college (or similar), protected from bullies or criminals etc by a powerful boy/man. Here and now setting does better than complex fantasy, though urban paranormal does great as well.

So, if you want tropes, maybe a queer, closeted 17 yo who gets beaten by others in the school, then a new hot guy moving in...

Underused ? A couple that is already well into dating and has been dating for at least a few years and is established past the generic problems that enter most stories. Literally. But it's under used because it's not the popular mold. To go off of what @domisotto said, bonus points if the new hot guy is a jock of some kind because nerdy boy being saved by hot footbal player, soccer player, baseball player, wrestler - you name it - is apparently always the rage.

So long as the new hot guy is tall and big, and the male lead is smol. Devote at least a page or an episode to abs description. Abs are important. Screw eyes. Though make the lead's eyes green like emeralds, and the hot guy's--blue as sapphires just in case.

And make sure to reference nerdy clothing all the time - and nerdy large ugly glasses, that hide an adorable and cute round face that the giant tall hot guy just can't help but kiss.

e_e Like. I read these tropes, and there's some stories I actually enjoy that do these tropes. But good god. Some are so obvious. It's a formula now.

But honestly - you said you write fantasy and comedy. Just take a syringe and pulse that kind of humor into your little story. It doesn't matter if it's popular or fits the mold. What matters is if you have fun writing it. And if you're asking because you're unfamiliar with how to write BL - honestly - just take a stroll for a few hours through the BL novels already on Tapas. Hit up the fresh section in the search, and the popular, and then genre by genre. It's annoying to hear, and do, but "researching" by reading other people's stuff to get familiar with something you don't know is better than going at it like "I'll write it like a hetero-normative relationship and just change the girl to a guy and all will be fine". That's an okay approach to take, but I've seen stuff done that way being highly disliked. Heck, even a manga that takes that approach and turns into a joke and then writes an actual story around it without ever addressing it in the face of the readers has angered fans of the BL and yaoi genre who lack the ability to see that it was a joke and has sprung into a real story.

I don't even do research for what's popular or normal or expected of whatever genre I write because whatever I write never fits into the existing expected genres. It's why my stuff is so hard to put into sites that have genres and such - because "it's not quite this, and it's not quite that, but it has elements of this." I could switch my genre from Fantasy to Drama and while my audience might change, the content of the story would not.

I did the research, and it didn't work for me, but I still enjoyed writing a BL novel. It was something younger than I normally write, but I felt it had a lot of me in it anyway. So, honestly, it's not like it's a waste of time to try a genre, even if nobody reads it.

I think you miss understand that 10 chapters for a comic artist usually takes at least 5 years to finish and thats without hiatus. cosplayers maybe take a few months on a project before they can move on to the next one, you got a bad bet.

This was posted in the "Writing: Novels" topic. I can write 10 chapters in two months if I actually try...

lol oh sorry I'm so used to people making bad choices with comics.

Still would take a couple of months if you actually want it to be good such as doing things like redrafting. Anyone can write 10 chapters in two months but if you want your pros, punctuation, and dialogue to be good i would recommend going back and do about 4 or 5 redrafts before calling them done. That might mean changing some scenes you like to make more sense for continuity or character consistency. A lot of times we will write a character with a very firm idea in our head of who they are and then they're attitudes change through the story without any real throughline. Suddenly your edgy boy who dosn't care what people thinks about him cares what five random people on the street think about him and he wants to punch them for it. It can work but you gotta remember to go back and rework the structure as to WHY it would work.

I suppose most BL readers wouldn't care too much if they're just in it for the smutt or hand holding, but you asked how to write a good one, and if you want people to enjoy coming back to reread it rather then just reading for the cute bois and then dropping it once they get their kissing scene (which happens too much with people i know who consume BL) then your gonna wanna make sure its well written form beginning to end and that character consistency stays consistent

Give it a shot! Since you didn’t define chapter length, you have a wiggle room there. I would probably aim for a novella of 20K words, dividing it into 40 Tapas episodes. People here rarely read anything much over 1K words per episode

It depends on the writer. Some writers draft so carefully, that their draft page is basically final—yes they are rare. Normally, it’s 3 drafts, and people have very different editing styles. Some have to edit to cut down the fat off the text and useless/junk/filler. Some have to add content. There is no estimated speed at which you produce stories people would want to read. Heck, I know a writer on Wattpad who can put out 10-20K words a day. It’s not perfect, but it is easy to read, and many of her 30 to 40 full-sized books have over half-million reads. People just gobble up her stuff, despite of how fast she produces it. I’d sell my soul for her ability to appeal to the audience and give it exactly what they want.

That sounds like fun, honestly. ^^ My advice would be to play to your strengths! If you excel at funny dialogue, make sure your MCs do a lot of banter. If you like drama, plan out a freakin' soap opera.

I find the best way to enter a new genre/medium is to do it in a way that leans on what you already know you're good at.