I'm not saying you brought it up, I'm just always surprised by how easy it goes there now days. It's the topic of the century I suppose.
Dude I wasnt the one who brought the topic up. In fact was i still was talking about censorship but you do you . I'm sorry I have little tolerance for misinformation and bigotry that has hurt soo many people. Maybe I should just lie down and go "yup true". But I guess some folks here do have that privilege. Of being enablers
Personally I dispise censorship I dont trust any human to have a consistent values or what's right or wrong.
I generally say write what you want and not be a dick head and know who you are appealing to.
I love this, "everybody shut the FUCK UP about something I've decided is off topic! By the way, here are my opinions about it........"
But this is the point. The topic is "SELF-censorship"; it's about what we, as creators, choose to put in our work, right? And that might be something about our beliefs, or something we believe is important to discuss, or to present as potentially sympathetic in the face of often being presented as problematic, disgusting or wrong.
So, for example, CLAMP, a manga circle I'm actually generally a fan of, have made quite a few comics that involve pairings between adult characters and minors. A noteworthy one is that in Cardcaptor Sakura, there's a subplot between side characters in which a teacher and one of his students, who is aged 11 are betrothed to be wed when the girl is old enough, and they act like a couple. It's presented as though this is fine, harmless, even beautiful.
The question is, "is that okay? Should they have included that in their work? Or is that glamourising grooming?"
That's the question we as creators have to ask ourselves about this stuff, especially when it's around a subject like paedophilia. There are plenty of other anime and manga with similar themes or sexualised-looking depictions of underage characters. The whole point of this thread is to discuss where the responsibility lies: With the creator...or the audience? And there's no one right answer. I personally believe creators have responsibility but... obviously other people have different ideas, but I don't think my comment on Paedophiles not reflecting their feelings in their work was in any way off-topic just because your belief (which by the way is the same as mine) is "no, they shouldn't because that stuff is awful and wrong."
If conversation is important no matter how stupid, ugly, or uncomfortable it is, then why is bringing up a writer's unfiltered thoughts about a controversial debate considered "off topic" in a thread about self-censorship?
But TAM didn't continue on the off topic, they went back to the topic of censorship, which is what the thread is about 
I wouldn't censor it, but I do find it an annoying and grading topic regardless of what side people stand on, it's been talked to death but keeps popping up and killing conversations in a lot of places.
I would never tell anyone they can't talk about something, but would I perhaps suggest they filter how much they talk about it? Maybe. But there is a difference between censorship and filtering.
Because the conversation was beginning to be more about JkR and Trans stuff than it was about censorship.
Anyway, getting back on topic. Self-censorship is a tricky area period. The bottom line, it's too much of a guessing game to figure out what to censor at this day and age. Your mileage will vary depending on audience.
This. I feel like JKR is a perfect example of how just running your mouth can lead to a lot of people being turned off by their work. I guess it is the catch-22 of a creator, do you state your opinions or stay quiet so you don't upset people. I feel like social media and bad press has lead to people avoiding media and boycotting stuff.
Like the whole Captain Marvel is another example of this. The statements the actress made pissed people off and a lot of people avoided watching the film.
I think it's also the thing I sort of dislike about social media. Everyone feels entitled to put their two cents into every topic no matter how misinformed they are on a topic. And I think it just causes the spread of a lot of misinformation. When the conversation about transpeople is being dominated by people who know nothing about transpeople or hate them it leads to people parroting back BS.
This is the thing? Like, her whole deal that Darthmongoose detailed is a GREAT example of the dynamics of self-censorship, be they arguments for or against. This idea that just because it's a flashpoint for heated opinions doesn't make it any less apt a case study. But because it has "Trans stuff" in it oh now it's out of bounds and us queers can't be trusted to behave when talking about it... it's so very interesting how all of a sudden a bunch of people are like "HOW DARE YOU BRING THIS UP WE WERE HAVING A LOVELY DAY" it's just like... uh huh.
But @darthmongoose was using J.K. Rowling as an example to bolster her argument about how she feels about self-censorship - this was still on topic. If the topic then steered towards arguing about trans-issues specifically, wouldn't it be more productive to say, "Let's stick to discussing how JKR is relevant to the self-censorship conversation," as opposed to, "If we're going to talk about JKR at all, I'm getting the mods to shut this down"?
Finally someone said it, very sus. I dont agree with darth fully on the ideas of self censorship. But she made solid arguements, dont agree but that's neither here nor there
But yeah I would say weird how people jump to defense of very bad misinformation with "urg bring up the tran ideology 
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Very hmm...
Oh, I've said my piece and I'm out of this thread - I've got it on muted now. People will agree with me or disagree with me, and both are fine.
Hey, again I don't have a problem with anyone talking about what they want to. I just find it funny that Trans stuff seems to work its way into most conversations today.
Also I should clarify, I'm not saying thar anyone was actually getting off topic, but you asked why he would want us to stop talking about those things and I was giving you an answer I thought was his reasoning more than my own.
I still stand by my initial response to the main question.
I think it's important to draw a line between censorship and filtering.
I don't think creators should censor their work. There will always be a group of people out there who don't like what you have to say or how you say it. Yes, we want people to enjoy our work but I believe we have to first tell our stories for ourselves. Censoring our work, in my opinion, waters it down and dilutes it from the heart of thoughts were probably trying to paint.
That being said, we as creative also need filters. We need to know how far is far enough, not because someone else will be offended, but because at a certain point we start to become counter productive. We have to know what is necessary. And that's not censorship.
Censorship is like throwing away ingredients. Filtering is like having ingredients but choosing what to use and how much of it to use so your recipe turns out right, and sometimes that means very little or not at all.
I think our responsibility is to tell an honest story and introduce new ideas. And we can do that with tactic without censorship.
Now, will people be happy? Will everyone agree? Probably not. But every story isn't for everyone. Every idea doesn't need to cater to the masses. It's better to be bold and authentic and hated than it is to be watered down bland and possibly liked...in my opinion anyway.