u wanna get popular on tapas? Easy, just have a romance webcomic with a generic anime art style, if u don't have that then try out webtoon,
u wanna get popular on Webtoon? Easy, just have a romcom webcomic with a unique anime art style and a weekly posting schedule, if u don't have that then don't keep up your hopes up on webtoon either lol
My audience on Tapas is slowly increasing but it's been around the same number because I go on regular hiatuses and promoting outside updates is hard for me. If I'm not updating I feel like I have nothing to show. I wasn't originally going to complain about this because it makes me come off as entitled and I know Tapas doesn't owe me anything but I was really hoping to be featured in their Black Voices section last month because I had been in it last year (it gave me a good boost in subs) but I wasn't and I was left a little disappointed. Oh well, but it would've been nice.
Now webtoons: I started posting on there at the start of last year and growth was slow and it didn't seem like it was going anywhere so I stopped midway through the year. I came back late last year, restructured my update schedule and recently changed the thumbnail and I'm growing again which is great.
I don't know which is the better platform, however. I guess Tapas because I have ten times as many views and subs. In both instances, especially webtoons, getting featured is a real struggle. Especially if you can't fanagle a consistent update schedule without disappearing for half a year to make a buffer. I'm aware of the things keeping the comic from expanding but I can't help it with my IRL schedule and issues.
Webtoon at least has a section dedicated to newly updated comics. So your comic appears on one of the pages of the main site every time you update. I recall Tapas had that too but it seems they've gotten rid of that section a while back. I mean it's not like right now my rate of getting subs on Webtoons is any faster than on Tapas though
During the preboot of my comic I did gain subs considerably faster on Webtoon than Tapas, but I did notice the rate slow down to a halt after like half a year. Some kind of algorithm trick, I guess
real life does like to get in the way... Hope you can work it out to get a regular schedule.
i guess getting featured would be nice, but i have no plans of that ever happening. my comic is too unpalatable for both platforms, and i have no minority claim, so i can't slot into those promos, so im sure itll just never happen. It's probably a good mindset to have anyway, don't expect a random event to help you promote. =/
For me i just keep losing subs everytime i post on webtoons haha :'D bc they promoted me last year in some event i got like 2k subs in one week, but after that i don't actually gain new readers whenever i upload, i just lose them on tapas i have fewer subs but i at least gain them regularly (even if it's only like 1-2 per week). Yes, i know you should promote on social media, but I'm too old to do that properly
Congrats, dude!
I guess the experience depends on the type of story you're telling. Once upon a time I got into a bunch of banner swap promos on there that led to my comic getting featured, it was on there for a couple weeks or so, gaining over 5k followers before it ended. In that time my 9 star rating tanked to 3 thanks to a slew of downvotes, the comment section of my comic got overrun by rabid kids ignoring the story and wanting my MCs to make-out, totally messing with the experiences of my long-time readers. Once the promo was over I hemorrhaged subs every update, like I lost at least 600 every week. Around that time someone also reported my comic, and this was before Webtoons had clear rules on non-sexual mature content, I tried to contact the staff about it which got no response. With that being the last straw I deleted my comic, and account, then made a new one and reposted my comic with age warnings and passive-aggressive censors. I just wanted to start over, get rid of all those obnoxious kids and deter anyone who didn't like dark character dramas.
Not too long after Webtoons changed their rules on mature content, making my comic pretty much "illegal", so I don't try to give that mirror too much attention.
Needless to say I'm not a huge fan of the site. The general readerbase there is much younger, their censorship rules are kind of a mess and the readers have way too much control. (It sucks that some rando can totally ruin your rating with one negative vote, and that they can comment whatever while you have to jump through hoops to just delete said comments.) At least the general readerbase here is older, and while my comic isn't allowed on the app, at least I don't have to worry about it getting deleted. Even though the staff don't like my work, they at least let me know (a few years ago.) that it didn't break their rules. It sucks that my comic doesn't get new readers like it used to before the Apple ban, but it's the lesser of the two evils.
Yep, I've been struggling to grow on Tapas. The algorithm just doesn't pick me up yet. And it seems like I bring more readers from Webtoon to Tapas than Tapas giving me new subs xD
Because whenever I get promoted on Webtoon and people see some censorship on my panels, they assume I'd reveal more on Tapas (I do not and there's no incentive for me to do that). And the monetization system is currently much better on Webtoon. But once Webtoon will change their monetization system and Tapas takes the opportunity to change for the better, maybe we will see the table turning. Who knows.
I think this a response to me, though I could be wrong. If' I'm wrong, you can ignore.
I mean I do technically have a regular schedule of 1 month on, 2 months off, it's just that a schedule like that won't earn you enough traction to gain readers at a good pace. I still get subs when I update, just not a lot.
I was less expecting and more hoping
Oh totally! I don't do banner swaps anymore just so I can avoid repeating that experience, and haven't seen any trouble since. Also I've joined a private collective so even if some dick decides to report me on Webtoons I at least have a place I can go. Stand alone sites aren't as popular as they were in the early 2000's, but it's better than being totally pushed out.
Ironically, if you want to have a higher possibility of being featured on Webtoons do banner swaps with people who have similar comics to yours. There weren't any like mine per se so I swapped with creators who had LGBT+ comics... which were mostly BL , completely my first mistake on that path of unwanted temporary fame since it brought readers who thought my comic was romance. Lol
Keep in mind the type of audience you're okay with if you do a swap, age can play a huge factor, I thought I was fine with BL fans but it turns out I'm only fine with 20+ BL fans. x'D
I'd say that at this point the situation for me is pretty even between the two platforms, lol.
On Tapas, I have less subscribers (170), but way more views, likes and comments. Numbers increase very slowly, but the good thing is that people seem to be more willing to interact and leave a feedback
On Webtoon, I have more subscribers (208), but... only 2-3 of them leave likes on my episodes. Everything else is just like screaming into a void. I tried encouraging people to comment and like episodes, asking questions hoping to get a response, I added bonus pics at the end of my episodes with a "please don't forget to leave a like" message, I tried to do banner swaps (out of 8 people I managed to put together, 4 ghosted me and 2 never did their part of the swap), I tried participating to events on Twitter and Instagram & tagging the Canvas staff on Twitter (always got ignored), talking/promoting on their official Discord (got downvoted once)... nothing seems to work to get more people to interact for about six months, I actually kept losing followers with each new update instead of getting new ones.
I'm not giving up on WT yet because, in theory, it's where I got the biggest number of subscribers, but I have to say that so far I'm not very impressed with the place at the moment XD (btw: no, I do not participate in sub4sub).
Which isn't to say that Tapas is this perfect and flawless place where everything is beautiful and gaining a readership is easy, mind you I still think that Tapas could improve some things for community creators (namely giving more visibility to events like the Discord community art board instead of just posting them as Instagram stories that only last 24 hours + more visibility to recently updated comics and novels on the app + pushing the "Tapas Community" socials more so that potential readers can see them, since right now the pages seem to be followed mostly by creators), but overall, I think that Tapas has a far more creator-friendly UI and gives you better ways to help you build a community compared to WT (creator walls, forums, Discord, NOTIFICATIONS). Also, it has less censorship compared to WT.
That said, trying out different platforms and seeing which one works best for you is always a good idea!
The thing is I'd probably have more attention on Webtoons, but I just decide to only put my Tapas link just because I'm afraid people will choose one for another. Like "I'm subscribed one one, I don't need to subscribe to both". Also I guess hard work trying to get attention on BOTH sites.
From what I understand Webtoon Subs are almost catching up to my Tapas subs.
For me, I've managed to get around the same amount of followers for both (but I gained webtoon followers a lot faster.) I've found that if you're promoting your comic elsewhere, people are way more likely to look for your comic on webtoon since it's a more popular site.
I've also found that posting on tapas multiple times a week helps you in terms of algorithm and popularity. Tapas readers seem to be alright with shorter updates (there are a lot of comics that upload a page per update multiple times a week and seem to be doing great on tapas) Meanwhile, on webtoon, readers expect longer updates once per week, so that works on that site.
If you're in one of the less saturated genres (I'm in horror, which has way less featured series) you have more of a chance of being on the popular page and having people find you. However, if you're main genre Romance, Comedy, Fantasy or Action, you're going to have a hard time competing with the featured series and all the other comics on there.
I'm not sure if scroll or page format is preferred on tapas, but I see a whole lot more page comics on here than scroll (or at least the ones I'm reading)
I think the issue with tapas is that even the 'fresh' section, which is similar to webtoon's 'sort by date' section is that it still sorts fresh based on popularity (that's what I've heard, don't quote me on that)