The Bitching thread 2.0

[Aspie_Gamer]

I agree. Even I've been learning to pick and choose my battles and had it been some random artist, I wouldn't have griped about it here, but because its the Owlturd guy and knowing that he has a very bad habit of apologizing for the littlest of things, I figured it warranted a post here in the Bitching thread.

@joe_galindez

Because they're bullies who cry about and defame supposed "bigots" until they get their way or they force an unwarranted apology from them and as somebody who was a target for bullying growing up, I'm partial towards sticking up for the little guy. Its simply in my nature.

[joe_galindez]

Because they're bullies who cry about and defame supposed "bigots" until they get their way or they force an unwarranted apology from them

Fair enough, but you were retweeting people who supported violence against other people.

Do you really think you're so different? What would you do if you were born in the same circumstances?

[Zaboem]

I am not opposing you wrote, and I have no knowledge of that Disney event from a few years back. I just want to clarify something. Disney can trademark whatever it wants. The purpose of a trademark is to provide a legal defense against counterfeiters who attempt to pass off their products as you products by purposefully confusing a consumer. You could trademark the word "the" if you wanted. You could then market a product called the THE. If I then come along and sell my own THE with a similar appearance, the same packaging, the same font, et cetera, you would have grounds for a trademark infringement lawsuit against me.

It' copyright law that is more about intellectual property.

Look-at-me! I'm not a lawyer!

[joe_galindez]

Disney can trademark whatever it wants.

Like how Games Workshop trademarked "space marine"?

[IdiotWithPencil]

I think is important to respect other countries, races and cultures.

sure be respectful, in Cocos case they team made a 5 year research journey in mexico to learn how the Mexican family works, and people in mexico loved the movie to bits, not cause it was authentic mind you but because they got the heart and made the movie GOOD

but lately, people get in their heads that "if it doesn't appeal to me personally, it's offensive"

I remember that once in USA people protested Speedy Gonzales(who is a Mexican stereotype) and they got Warner to stop producing episode, you know who got pissed off and haven't forgotten this since... Mexican =P

let us fight on our own, is basically what they were saying

But having a negative bias against foreigners sharing their view of that culture and using it as an inspiration for stories undermines PC way of thinking by implicitly stereotyping foreigners as disrespectful or ignorant people.

I would say more like their acting like Foreigners will go crazy cause they got something wrong, like we are some kind of little babies and need them to take care of our little baby feelings =/, kind of pisses me off frankly >:T

[IdiotWithPencil]

That is why many many tumblr-folk were hesitant of the film being released to my knowledge.

I just wanted to give a bit of info on why they might feel that way.

However, I am very aware of the tumblr mentality in regards to work depicting any minority.

I wished I could believe that, it would give me hope for tumblr if that was the reason. Thought I feel, from what I've seen at least, it is probably not the case -.-

also yay!! for disney being disney and for horrible business and marketing practises *I'm being sarcastic for those who are denser than a black hole

[DiegoPalacios]

@IdiotWithPencil
@Zaboem
@hades
@Jenny-Toons
@dawgofdawgness
@punkarsenic
@joe_galindez

I tagged you because you may be interested.

I was curious about the whole Disney trying to buy a holiday and found this.

Day of the Dead trademark request draws backlash for Disney - CNN

And just to be sure it wasn`t a CNN thing, i searched if other news spoke about it.

Disney withdraws trademark filing for

Disney Backs Off Trademark Decision

Disney pulls 'Dia de los Muertos' trademark bid

[Zaboem]

Yes and no, Games Workshop can trademark it's "space marine" but not all space marines. Apple computers once successfully trademarked specific colors in the context of those colors in computer cases.

[Heliox14]

Commercialism at its finest.
At this rate, companies can own Christmas. Heck, why hasn't the Vatican done so yet?
Like, per se, Warner Bros can trademark Christmas trees, Disney can trademark the gifts, etc., etc.
With this whole emphasis on "mine, mine, mine", no wonder we're all in decline.

@Aspie_Gamer It's all just entitlement. Whether entitlement to their own opinions, or to themselves, this is going to create problems.
Pride. Biggest problem of this Earth.

[DiegoPalacios]

Pride. Biggest problem of this Earth.

So true.

A big problem is that people mistake pride with dignity. And that causes all those ego wars when it comes to debating. Debating can be good if the goal is to search the truth and understanding. But when is just "i will prove that guy wrong", that is the point it devolves. Most people are not seeking the truth, they are only interested in owning it.(now that i think about it, that may be an interesting plot point for a story)

[Zaboem]

You might be thinking about copyrights. Copyright means ownership of intellectual properties. Trademarks are merely about marketing.

[Heliox14]

@DiegoPalacios go for it, man!
something where truth becomes a currency, and the protagonist learns that you don't need to have all the truths.
"sometimes a subtle lie is better than the cold truth."

@Zaboem It's pretty much the same thing. You copyright something, you want that property to be exclusively yours. Trademarks, you label something that links it to you.
Tools for the cash-grab, and the cash-grab to get more things that will be yours.
Rinse and repeat.

[Zaboem]

No, they are really not the same thing at all. Don't take my word for it. Read up on it yourself.

[punkarsenic]

i havent said a thing on this topic, but im glad its assumed ive been earwigging.

[DiegoPalacios]

I saw your like and assumed you were curious

[punkarsenic]

oh lol, i shoulda figured that (i was earwigging anyway, i werent being catty if thats what it sounded like)

[IdiotWithPencil]

Pride. Biggest problem of this Earth.

Their was a theory made by a christian person that I read once, and the main Idea was such:
their are no Multiple sins.Their is only one sin. All other perceived sins can be traced back to this one great sin. All evil acts are motivated by this sin. The Great sin of all humanity, the sin that made us fall from Eden and brings the devil closer is our own misguided Pride.

it was an interest read =D

[IdiotWithPencil]

@Heliox14 @Zaboem

since you guys are interested here's a site about trade vs copy marks

Differences Between Copyright and Trademark

[NickRowler]

Can you please stop using the forums to gossip about and harass other users. You have all the right to dislike Shen's work but take that shit somewhere else.

[Jenny-Toons]

I don't think they were doing that?
It looks more like they're calling out the call-out post. Not the creator that's being attacked by said post. I mean, yeah, it could be worded more differently, and I can see where it looks like gossiping. But I saw it more as "this person shouldn't have to apologize to people like this"