It'd be great if you could read other people's post properly and get the point before saying things like this because honestly I have seen no one saying Webtoon's after creators, only you mentioning that now. All we said is that webtoon's been boosting certain comics to the top by promoting them non stop in their sections and how doing so is unfair in this time of contest. We don't believe they are after creators and trying to make things difficult for them purposely so I don't get why you are even sayin this. Don't put words in our mouths, this is what creates feuds.
Okay yes, I apologize for the way it was phrased poorly. More importantly, what I wanted to achieve with that comment (which serves more so as an example rather saying that was what everyone in the thread was saying) was the follow up as comparison:
which follows the main idea of my post about the newer way webtoon choose to promote comics, pointing out that it may not be meant as something malicious but more so lending a hand to smaller creators. Many people have voiced out their concerns about smaller creators competing against the veterans and I'm saying this could be the reason for the promotion of smaller creator instead of malicious intent.
I've never denied that what webtoon did was unfair in the sense of a single comic being promoted to the top, but promoting lesser known comics isn't necessarily with the objective of keeping said comic at the top is what I was saying.
I don't get why people have so many problems with others expressing their opinion about injustice on webtoon. people are different, not everyone is a dreamer full of positivity. Anyone who wants to proclaim their love for LINE WEBTOON should be able to do so just the same as if you want to talk about the issue of unfairness and favoritism of webtoon, you can, But why is it that every time we discuss WT favoritism there's always someone calling us names like conspiracy theorist trying to make us sound like some lunatic and simply for having a different POV (which I must add is backed by many people witnessing the actions of LINE that leads to this POV). If there are conspiracy theorist on here, then there r also hopeless blinded dreamers on the opposite side. I guess this is the only way some people will understand. Impossible to even have a respectful and engaging debate on here.
I mean I agree with your sentiment, but posts like these are part of the problem.
Can't we just have people call Webtoon out for their shit when they do shit?
And Have people call them out on the good stuff when they do good?
And stop making this about conspiracy theorists v ignorant dreamers? Stop calling eachother names and just stick to the platform.... sheesh. No company is ALL evil or ALL good.
it's important for people to complain about things, that's how they can make their platform better. I really want people to stop telling others to stop complaining and "deal with how businesses are". Like I get it we arn't all going to get what we want, but that doesn't mean we have to be silent about it. But it's also important to realize that there are good qualities about this platform too and that we want the platform to continue doing the things it does right. So we shouldn't be getting upset at people who are happy and content with those. And we should all be allowed to express these thoughts without being placed on one side as a lover or hater of LINE webtoon.
While I'm not deleting my original series, (I'm actually still continuing it) I have started uploading a remastered version of my comic, with a new name, for the contest.
So far I've got 180 subs after 4 episodes, which means that even if all of them came from my original series (with 8700 subs), that would mean only ~2% have come over.
That understandable, as most readers aren't going to sub just to re-read what they've already seen, even if I have made it a bit better.
I will say though that, proportionately, I'm getting a MUCH higher level of reader engagement on the new series, with an average of 30% of my subscribers liking each episode, as opposed to the usual <1% I get on my existing one.
At just one month in, my contest entry's sub count is 2% my existing one, but pulled in 15% of its amount of views.
Heck, I even got more comments on the first episode of my reboot than I've got on ANY of my existing ones. And my new one has a higher rating as well.
Plus, I appear to be getting new subscribers coming in steadily, something which has been moving in reverse for me for months and month now, and even with the HUGE disparity in sub counts, the two webtoons are very close to each other on the popularity rankings for their genres.
So all in all, while I have no illusions of winning any money or contract deals, entering the contest has been a very positive experience for me, and I'm excited to see how the two series will compare when they finally catch up to each other later in the year, at which point I've have a real decision to make.
I dunno about you guys but for new artists, the contest can just be an excuse to finally post something if you've kept holding back. I was about to upload around sept-oct this year anyways and when LWT announced the contest, the timing was just too perfect! For me just uploading is a victory haha...
www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/pseudo-wings/list?title_no=20863540 <--I just posted my work there (prepping for downvoting now ugh pray for me) but otherwise i liked the contest, and I'm grateful for every 24 subs I have though it's low, granted I only have a cover up as I'm typing. So far I haven't recieved much negativity and I get more exposure there than I do here, but I'll admit its hard to get users there to go to other sites. And the already popular artists with big following from old comics just won't budge from the most popular
which sucks. But I'm also thinking their angle is probably just to get new artist topost there, maybe letting existing comics participate is a farce to avoid backlash from established discover artists? AND 40% audience is way too high, should be no more than 30%. Anyway maybe my POV is different cause I was about to post there around the contest period anyway, but I'll admit the 80k did get me excited for a bit, I thought I had a chance for a while when reading my pages, then I realized I'm not just going against newcomers. But hoping that if I find people that'll connect with my story then maybe this whole rollercoaster will be worth it.
Oh I know what you mean!!
I think maybe you can post the question to your readers?
Maybe they will follow you even in the contest.
I also don't think you can leave the other comic, but others have chosen to make a new one. Either way, wish you the best, really!
You've been working hard and making a comic <3
Wow!
It's so cool you have this going on for you, I read though all your analytics and itwas quite interesting.
So the part of your audience that was more loyal followed your hard work, then, right? It also probably has to do with the fact you made an improved version of your comic that there is more engagement, right?
Me too, entering the contest is a very positive experience. Very cool to see your journey, wish you lots of luck!
Hmm It's kinda nerve wracking thinking about all the entries in the contest. Especially cause this is my first time making a comic, but... I think I would regret not entering even if my chances are low. Trying to update weekly. Either way I've gotten farther then I ever have before in any comic idea i've had. Just by entering, so at least that is something...
And as for some other opinions on the contest. It seems like a lot of people are extremely weary of this contest. And with good a enough reason but I do think you should cross off the idea of entering right away.
What I don't think is so good about the contest. And how to work around it.
Downvoting- Has happened in other contests and will always happen unfortunately. People will downvote your comic into oblivion if they think it will alter your score and your chance of winning. Compared to other contests from other years it seems like rating will play less of a role in choosing a winner. So that's better I guess.
Impatient readers/ Longer chapters?- You will have a lot of people asking for longer chapters it's going to happen. Take is as it is. People are excited to see more of your work. Does it get frustrating? It will, but don't let it effect your work.
Less exposure/recommending smaller creators- I see where people are angry and frustrated. You just started creating and here are all these comics being recommended far more then yours will ever be. It might seem like webtoons is just playing favourites and doesn't care about other creators, but also remember that they are mostly recommending titles who are posting weekly/have almost met requirement. It makes sense. There are hundreds of people uploading daily. It is going to be impossible to feature them all. And what is the point if they don't even meet the requirements enough to even become a winner? Recommending someone who is going to drop the project halfway. Keep in mind they want to find a consistent creator who they can trust and get along working with.
Prize money- The big cash prize. Really don't get too focused in the cash prize. I mean it. Webtoon is looking for artists to add to their featured list. If you are only entering to get the sweet cash and have no plans on actually working with webtoon you will be disappointed. Enter if you can upload at a pace that works with webtoon and if you would like to work with webtoons as a company. That prize money should be an extra bonus instead of an end goal. It will also help if you think you will be dissapointed if you don't win.
Good things about contest!
Exposure/gaining an audience fast- You will gain an audience faster on webtoons than on any other site. If you update at a regular schedule you are more likely to gain a good audience especially with the contest. Many amazing comics are now being created due to the contest. There is interest and buzz about webtoon at the moment. Take your chance.
Better chance of being seen by webtoon staff.- Okay compare recommended titles now then compared to before the contest. It would often take a lot longer before you might reach the viewerbase enough to be noticable to the webtoon staff. But now with the contest? A lot more titles are being seen and recommended to others then before. And I've noticed some are newer creators as well.
The big Push- Hey finally you might start your comic if you haven't yet. Most people (myself included) wouldn't even think to start publishing their comic right now. But if you are entering the contest. Now you have the motivation and the drive to finally start your comic. Even if you don't win, you will have something to be proud of and chances are you may continue updating your comic. Don't forget! A bunch of featured creators have been picked up later by webtoon after their previous contests. If you are eligible to enter then you can be eligible enough to be picked up later on. So keep creating!
THE CHANCE TO BECOME A FEATURED CREATOR/PRIZE MONEY
Really don't sell yourself short. If you never create your series you might never know if you would win or not. A chance of winning is better than not at all. I remember watching a series where the creaters of Spaceboy, Sithra and Jakie Rose were talking about webtoon and where even they were skeptical of winning. And spaceboy won a previous contest. Can you really guarantee that you can't possibly win? If you stop creating just because there is a small chance of winning, then chance is you probably won't be able to go far. Work for the chance of winning but make sure you have another goal to strive towards instead. Like for example: I would love the chance to win, but, if I don't that's okay. I want to strive towards making at least one volume/part of my story and maybe in the future I can get it published in print. So don't give up!