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[TAMAnnoying]

What other comic sites do you really have to compare to besides webtoons which is known to have a completely different audience then taps?

If your checking these numbers with places like YouTube that’s a horrifying idea because more people will be prone to be watching streams and catching up on videos in hopes of feeling more connected to other humans right now.

You say everyone’s data matches but there’s plenty of creators I’ve talk to who’s numbers have gone up in comparison/not changed what so ever.

My problem is everyone is freaking out about an algorithm that can’t truly be known how it’s effecting the sight cause lots of people are dealing with a global pendemic. It just feels a >tiny< bit unfair to the staff

[KRWright]

What other comic sites do you really have to compare to besides webtoons which is known to have a completely different audience then taps?

I'm a novelist - so I'm comparing to Wattpad and Radish (I'm in both of their invite only programmes). So I can compare - yes - quite well.

[TAMAnnoying]

Well I honestly can’t say anything about novles as that’s not my tea, but It’s always been known that tapas isn’t great with its novles so I can’t do much but agree with you there. It’s very possible that since tapas now looks so much like a Webtoon clone people aren’t expecting to find actual novles here anymore? I honestly couldn’t say.

My consern is more for all the comic people freaking out when there’s no real way to check stats For some time as the only other site we have is Webtoon which has more younger audience and isn’t gonna help mature comics try to compare and contrast so early in the change and so late into this pendemic

[KRWright]

It’s very possible that since tapas now looks so much like a Webtoon clone people aren’t expecting to find actual novles here anymore?

It's not that. It's the way novels are displayed (very very few at the top of the page - almost half the screen is a menu on the novels side) and then the algorithm essentially pushing things... interestingly.

[TAMAnnoying]

almost half the screen is a menu on the novels side

Has that been reported yet? Sounds like a glitch

[KRWright]

No this is a clear design choice. Literally one novel and three featured novels appear when you click on the novels page - you have to scroll down to see more. It means that essentially the top spot gets a load of real estate, but if you're anywhere below the top 5 or so, you may as well be on infinite scroll.

[PixelEnchanter]

To be fair, it is the same menu as on the comics side. And also part of it is probably based on scaling of your screen. Here's what each look like for me.

[TAMAnnoying]

Ohhhhh yeah that. I noticed that but honestly I feel like I’m not the person to give input on it. I rarely read novles, however if I’m to be compleatky honest with you I actually much prefer it because the summery is front and center for me to see (unlike I’m comics where it’s hidden) so I can actually read summaries and decided on if I’d be interested in the story before I even click on it and have to read through sevral pages ( or guess if I’ll like it based on the pretty cover)

But I can understand why it upsets you

[KRWright]

That's still a pretty awful design choice as it basically limits advertising to VERY few spots - and also makes people scroll a lot to see anything. This hasn't been a popular decision on other novel reading websites either who moved towards this kind of system and algorithm and failed quite spectacularly with it.

I can actually read summaries and decided on if I’d be interested in the story before I even click on it and have to read through sevral pages

It would be better if people had a space to put a log-line in and included less white space. The title being clickable isn't needed (it should be on the cover), so essentially genre and log-line is all that's needed. Also number of likes is misleading - number of subs is a far better counter of quality as it shows how many individuals have subscribed rather than how long something is, but I digress.

[TAMAnnoying]

As a reader of novles I will agree to disagree with you cause I actually prefer this ^^” but again I’m not knowlaged on novel stats so shrug

[KRWright]

I rarely read novles,

As a reader of novles

Which one?

One thing that I know is that people DO judge books by their covers. Tapas readers are very driven by two things: Genre and Trope. So as long as your cover and log line is communicating those clearly, you're going to get the right audience for your books. Clicking through or hovering over to show the full blurb then would be a good addition - but most readers are not reading in-depth before clicking through and while this might change that behaviour, I wouldn't say it's indicative.

[TAMAnnoying]

Rarely a reader dose not mean “never a reader” love, but again, agree to disagree x3 I have few novles in my list but the new set up could very well encourage me to read more since the summaries are front and center.

[KRWright]

I dunno. I tend to market towards people who are regularly consumers of certain types of content as it’s quite rare to actually convert people to an entirely new medium when they have resisted it for a good few years when it’s only been a click away on the site. I don’t think it was the lack of blurb on the display page bothering most people (especially considering that it was available after one click - just as it is now to read the full blurb).

[TAMAnnoying]

Diffrent strokes diffrent folks

[Croik]

Am I crazy or is it a completely different menu actually? Comics is full width while novels has half taken up by Featured, because comics has Featured on the front page and novels does not.

[PixelEnchanter]

The original comment was about menus, which is the part along the top and that's identical between comic and novels. Although I do agree that there are likely much better ways of handling both menus and displaying series in general

[villainesayre]

There's so many replies and I couldn't read them all so forgive me if someone already said something similar.

The new website design is to put it simply... plain. Everything is white and light gray and in my opinion it all melts together in big white page with nothing to set eyes on. Front page looks like chaos now (because of big icons and lots of them) and there's so many things going on that I can't focus properly on one thing and it makes me just NOT wanting to read anything because I can't settle on one thing.

Background mixes too much with toolbar which is almost invisible and if it wasn't in the same place I would miss it.

I actually miss the black/yellow/white design as yellow was a colour of tapastic and it let the website stand out amongst others. Simplyfing everything when it comes to design most of the times is not a good thing and so many trademarks/companies/etc lose their identities. Minimize - ok, but not to the point when you can just smash a different logo on the front page and it will look nice as would've any other logo.

And one thing that piss me more than what I've said before - reading new episodes/chapters of the favourite series is such a pain in the ass that as I've checked the site everyday now I do it once or twice a week because you've taken the most essential tool front the site which is endless scrolling. It was the most comfortable thing you could get and you just got rid of that.

[eleoza]

Personally I left Tapas until things are fixed/better...
I tried, but I can't get used to this and my stats are dropping.

It makes me sad, really. I've been here since 2016, but Tapas is just not the awesome place for comics it used to be. This whole redesign was the final drop.
I do hope to come back eventually once things are better...

I doubt I can add something which hasn't been said already.
To better times <3

[dedadaniels]

Creator here,
Left feedback on the forms.
Thanks for restoring the Previews.
They do a lot when you share the page outside of the platform.

[IndigoShirtProd]

So, @michaelson is the full sized covers thing still happening this month, 'cause it's not really mid-March anymore. There's a lot of things happening not only with the Tapas team fixing bugs and deciding which features to change, but also with this worldwide pandemic. It's fine if that's being pushed back, there are more pressing issues, I just though I'd ask. And if there's any news, if a email is going to be sent out.