BATTLE ROYALE: Photoshop .VS. Clip Studio Paint

[okellymx]

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[qwerty]

If you haven't already, you might want to try Krita (it's free, but despite that it rivals any other drawing/painting software in terms of features). The only problems I've had with it are that it's slow (at least on my machine) and I've found the interface a bit confusing (probably due to having so many features).

Their v4.0 update a few months ago made significant improvements to the speed though.

[TAMAnnoying]

Ah looks like the price is a one time payment of 50$ compared to a subscription of 9$ and considering there’s an ongoing theme of “text tool bad” and not anything to properly edit the format with I think I’ll jiay save 50$ since I’ll probs be using photoshop at least 20% of the time :v just do everything on one program

[A-weird-girler]

I can't I have a chromebook and it doesn't support it

[storytimebiondi]

I go Photoshop 100% .. but i also have the privilege to be able to afford it. I used CSP back in its Manga Studio days, and thought it was an interesting tool. I especially liked its perspective tools... However, I just can't shake the customization with Photoshop, and the comfort level I have with it.

[Daknight]

Second on the lagging. I took my CSP file to photoshop (save it as psd) and boy...the lag O_O It wasn't work stopping but it was noticible while in CSP everything was moving smoothly. I just wish CSP had better text functions (drop shadows and rotate without rasterizing being my big two).

[Shanny8]

I use CSP to do the pencils & inks; PS to do most of the coloring- CSP for other effects. I use Illustrator to letter...

On my old laptop, when I didnt have enough memory, PS lagged- especially when I tried to use the internet along with running PS...but with my newer laptop I dont get the lag.

My main reasons with sticking with PS for coloring are A) I own a bunch of Kyle Webster brushes, and B) I like PS's gradient tool better than CSP; I use a lot of gradients in my backgrounds at times...but lately I found this texture brush in CSP that I use on top of the background panel flats that I lay down. The result is really nice, subtle and interesting...

Sucks when you get a new computer or have to restore hundreds of brushes manually in CSP.

My last couple of updates/reloads with CSP have been good- they save all your brushes/settings in a CELSYS folder in the "My Documents" section and that allows you to save that folder and reload it. I upgraded from the Pro version to EX and that was my main concern; saving that folder and reloading it to EX restored all my brushes in one load. Also, CSP now has an "autosave progress" function that saves your progress as you go along- if something ever happens with your current work you can recover the work from the last autosave point in the CELSYS folder.

[spadesart]

photoshop is a punishment to draw in. terrible pen pressure and control and mediocre drawing tools even with the downloadable brushes available. i love the painting abilities clip studio has, i have a lot of trouble painting using just the transparent pen tool, never comes out right.

[racarter]

I draw traditionally so I don’t have to draw in a program.

I tried the trial for Clip Studio and it’s nice, I love the asset features, there’s a variety of brushes, so I enjoy all that. But some of the tools I found confusing and the program ran a little too slow for my liking.

I’m more used to Photoshop and it runs a little smoother on my laptop. I guess I can say it’s more simple, less complex. Tho I haven’t used Clip Studio enough to really compare.

I’d like to use Clip Studio, or to try it out more, but I can’t afford it. Lol

I just wish PS had a smoothing thing since sometimes I have to do touch ups with the brush tool using a mouse. It always comes out gross and wobbly.

[okellymx]

I honestly never use the auto save progress never needed it once, plus I get better performance in CSP with it off. Same thing with moving the brush settings in My Documents or using the new settings back up inside clip studio. Doing it manually isn't intuitive at all and should be included in the software the only thing it lets you do is one by one. However I've been using CSP since 2007 when it was just Manga Studio 4 in the west and know all the ins and outs or possible solutions(which none of them work for me) so I stopped looking for solutions. Maybe if they have another full upgrade

[okellymx]

You'd have to either get the new PS CC or Lazy Nezumi for the smoothing of lines.

[racarter]

Yeah, I know. I’ve got CS5 and it’s great, I mean compared to PS7 that I used to have lol, but I haven’t looked too much into the CC pricing.

[Zhengo]

All these people talking about the Photoshop subscription fee and here I am discreetly using a pirated version >_____> I have no morals

[Milhamah]

Here is my typical webcomic process:

1. I sketch concept art and storyboarding the episode in pencil.
2. I begin work making and posing the characters using Adobe Flash CS5. Once in a while, I'll Live Trace textures in Illustrator CS5 during this step and export them to Flash.
3. Sometimes I'll make a separate background or two and run it through Clip Studio Paint EX to add manga effects or screentones.
4. Then I'll export everything to Photoshop CS5 to crop the contents, add filters and adjust the colors and levels.
5. After that, I'll export the panels from Photoshop to Illustrator CS5, mock up the webcomic and do the dialogue. I've already Live Traced some of the features from CSP into vector form, which makes dialogue balloons easy.
6. When the comic episode is done, I export it back into Photoshop to resize and reformat the pages for different platforms.

I look forward to the day when I can get enough Patreon donors to support the subscription Adobe service and all the new features. But until then, I manage decently based on the programs I already bought.

[joannekwan]

Oh yeah. I'm still running on my old copy of CS6. fuck the subscription

[Raven_C]

Same here... thank god I still have the CS6 version of the Adobe programs that I bought at a discount price as a student from years ago. lol. I'm forever gonna keep that hard copy.

[paperwren]

I switched from Photoshop to CSP this year and honestly everything is better forever? I guess I do a fair amount of hand lettering so the font thing doesn't bother me. I love painting in it compared to Photoshop, probably because I paint like an idiot all on one layer haha. Also Photoshop had a fun feature where if I used the eyedropper tool outside of the canvas area it would crash. I just really like using a set up that's actually designed for making comics.

[okellymx]

I just really like using a set up that's actually designed for making comics.

After writing how much I preferred drawing in Photoshop I realized how much time I waste in it. Especially making panels and using the built in rulers.

[indigodrawing]

Apparently you can't edit old posts, so I'm adding a reply to cover this.

You can now apply some limited transformations to text layers in Clip. Sadly this is still a far cry from full blown manipulation of text layers, but it is at least a start. Hopefully they're working on adding more flexibility to text layers because it really sucks you can't do fancy distortions or alterations unless you rasterise a text layer first.

[CodeMonkeyArts]

I use Medibang Paint Pro personally, but I do like Clip Studio Paint as well as Open Canvas.

Due to the Adobe being a never-ending-money-pit I refuse to do anything with Photoshop past CS4. I just can't.