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Oct 2021

Hi there! I've been releasing my webcomic, Passion 101, since August. I do it on a monthly schedule since I'd rather have longer, 10-17 page chapters that have their own arc than releasing two or three pages a week. I'm really happy with the amount of views it's been getting (354 so far) but the sub amount is still really low; I've only gotten 2, and they're a friend that read the comic and someone I met in a Discord server who I showed it to.

I always see other series that have much less views than mine, maybe even ones that haven't updated in months, and they have like 20 subscribers. I don't want to sound ungrateful, and I enjoy making comics regardless, but if you have the time to read the comic, could you tell me if I'm doing something wrong?

At first I thought it might be that it's in black and white, but I've seen other comics in the same format without this issue. I also thought that maybe I hadn't released enough episodes, but I also saw comics with much less content out that still didn't have the issue. The only thing I can really think of is my update schedule being too long, so I guess people don't check page counts much. Though I don't know much about what Tapas readers prefer so I'm not sure. I've improved the pacing, art, dialogue and paneling pretty significantly with each episode, but maybe I'm still not at a high enough level?

The comic's link is https://tapas.io/series/PASSION101/info75. Seriously, thanks a lot! Hope you have a good day c:

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I think people like to check out comics without committing to subscribing. Especially if your views come from people on other platforms that don't have a Tapas account. I get a lot of my views this way since I have friends on Instagram that read it but can't react, comment or subscribe since they don't have an account.

to be blunt, i think the quality of the art is going to be a hurdle for a few people. of course, a comic's greatest asset is its story, and amateur art has its own charm that can serve the story well (i mean, look at the original one punch man and mob psycho) but it takes an open mind on the part of the reader to get past it.

Ok, I have to start with: You barely started updating. You should wait and promote. A lot of people gain their first subs here on forum, so it's a good start.
Also 2 subs with 324 views is not even bad, thousands of people scroll through the site every day and 99.9% of them haven't even seen your comic.

My biggest issue was that it was hard to comprehend visually. There's no difference in line weight and you are using the same line weight and hatching in the background, so while the art is not bad at all, it just becomes a mess.

So in the end I'd recommend trying to use different line weight, and looking through other manga to see how your favorite creators do it ^^

I would try splitting those episodes up - maybe a page or two per episode.

I did the same thing when I joined Tapas (31 pages in one episode). But if you think about it (especially for add revenue later on) it’s better to have one page per episode (more episodes, more views, likes and comments etc).

That’s what I found anyways. :blush:

I totally get that for the first and even second episode, but most of the comics I see on Tapas aren't much above the sort of art I made in the third. Though maybe those comics have a better hook outside of the art

Yeah, it's true that I should get a bigger backlog of chapters. Though about the backgrounds getting mixed up with the characters, do you mean just in the first chapter or in the others as well? I tried to improve on that with the last two chapters but if you think it's still a problem I'll need to try and improve on it more

Yeah I'll see how it progresses in the next few months and if I don't see much progress I may split the chapters up!

Something that might help is making sure your art/style is consistent for each Episode. It's a bit distracting when you have some of your pages look very rough while the next page looks a lot neater. It looks like you are trying to rework them, but something quick you can do it just change the tones on the current pages. Tones are designed for B/W printing. And I recommend that if you want the effect, you should use a filter that creates the illusion of it instead.

Like this.

You should also work on composition a bit. Don't rely too much on close up. Make sure you set up the characters in a way that they seem grounded in a scene. Don't only place characters in the middle of panels. Don't be afraid to use shot reverse shot.

This might help
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thanks, you're totally right! i definitely gotta work on my shot composition. and yeah, currently i'm developing my style pretty quickly so it shifts a lot from episode to episode. i think around episode 6 my style will have solidified more so i'll redo chapter 1 and maybe some of chapter 2 to accomodate that + fix their pacing issues

Scott McCloud's books are such a great tool for making comics
I read all of them before I even started working on mine and I highly recommend them to everyone. even if you're like 100 chapters in it's good to study the basics.


also @emibudd I wouldn't worry about it, you just started posting and comments matter more when it comes to getting your comic seen by more people.

I like your artstyle its really interesting, although inconsistent at times with some pages looking cleaner than others like they're drawn with a ballpoint pen, then the next page the linework will be smooth like you used a marker. I suggust thicker outlines for the characters, cause although this is a manga-like story, it helps the characters pop out more which is better for clarity.

your paneling is also off sometimes but I'm not gonna fault you there imo it's the hardest part of making comics.
and try to keep the words off the edges of the dialogue bubbles

and I know it's the first chapter so the pacing is gonna be weird regardless
people do this a lot where they'll introduce a character, via "hi I'm X and I X" then introduce them again right after by having them meet someone. You only need that one introduction with Tomo meeting their friend cause theres a lot more to be said there if that makes sense.

hope none of this was harsh, I really do think your art is cool and would love to see what it evolves into in the future of the story, good luck

Thank you so much, not too harsh, don't worry c:

The thicker outlines are probably a good idea, I'll try them out! And yeah, over the last few chapters I've been trying to settle on a brush + shading style but I think in chapters 3 and 4 I found a combination that I liked, so I'll be sticking to that and developping it! And yeah that makes sense, I guess it's more economical time-wise to just have one single introduction.

cant wait to see what your next chapter will look like now that you're switching how you draw
i really love how you draw eyes its gorgeous
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oh and you should probably put the link to your comic if your forum description

thank you so much!! i'll do my best with chapter 4! and thanks for the tip, just added the link

that doesn't really mean much if the average reader leaves after looking at a couple pages, you know? although maybe, setting the comic so that the first episode shown is the latest (so one with better artwork) might help with that.

i'll probably just wait until having gotten to episode 5 or so, where my style will start evolving a bit slower, and redo some pages then

That doesn't sound too bad stats-wise, but yeah, maybe you should try splitting the chapters up. Give yourself some breathing room that way while also having a more active update schedule. Your art is honestly pretty good, but like others have said the pages do feel a big crowded, especially with all the hatching/cross-hatching. I really liked the page where you show Tomo getting to school even though it's mainly an establishing shot. It really gave the comic some breathing room, after all the very detailed panels before.

yep i agree! i've been trying to reduce the panel-per-page count and just do more pages if anything. plus things like reducing my brush size so each panel doesn't feel as full c: