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If so for what reasons and what did you do? Small tweaks of existing pages or major overhauls?

Were you happy with what you achieved? What advice would you give others thinking about doing it?

Before and after images would be really useful!

Cheers

Danny

Adrenaline Shots

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I try to do something new with my series at least twice a year, either aesthetically or writing wise

Hey @AdrenalineShots!

My team has done a butt load of revision work for our comic. Why? Cuz we were publishing it! Most of the stuff was small revisions, but for the first book we had to do a major overhaul and reletter every page. It was a massive headache, but the way we'd done it before wouldn't have looked right in print. We also had to tweak artwork. Stuff like props that went missing, or characters who were off model.

We were really happy with what we achieved! And doubly so with our fans! We still have to upload the fixed pages for both books, but eh. We'll get to it eventually...

The way we went about it was creating a spreadsheet for each book. Here's a screen shot of what it looked like.

Green means it's finished. Red means it needed to be discussed. We had things colored in orange for "Not Done". Yellow for "in process". etc.

This really helped us stay on task and keep up with what needed fixing, when and and who was doing it.

I try not to do it too much but still do it occasionally, because I want to focus on new content more than I do old content.

Most fixes I do are from someone telling me that I had a spelling error, so I'll go back to fix it, or later I'll realized I forgot to add a detail, so I'll go back to fix it. Sometimes I'll be reading through my comic and thinking "this panelling or word placement doesn't read as well as I thought it did" and fix it.

That's the nice thing about having a digital comic. You can go back and fix things if you want to.

I recently switched up the style of my webcomic Edible Green Tea for it's third season and went fully digital (as opposed to first sketching out the strip on paper and scanning it before finishing in Photoshop.) And even then, I'm still working on and tweaking the comic's art and formatting near constantly to try and get the look right (doesn't hurt that I namely started this comic to help learn and practice digital art techniques).

Here's the before and after:

Seasons 1-2 (I even reworked the format halfway through Season 1 for more drawing room):

Season 3:
https://tapas.io/episode/10567581

Let me know what you think! I love to hear feedback on how to improve! :slight_smile:

for Lalita at the end of the universe. I've got a HUUUUUGE style change since i first started year ago. and then when drawing the characters they got a huuuge design over haul

I definetly want to continue the story one day with this style, tho it's a little daunting. I do have a bunch of pages sketched out. but the style is so detailed n stuff I'd need alot of time to work on the pages. and I'm busy working on another comic.

for storytale1. I'm in the middle of the first chapter, i've have a few small changes but nothing big, but I'm thinking instead when I hit the second chapter I'm going to change the style to a something that would make it faster for me to create pages without loosing the quality in my art. then after that i'll see if i want to try another different style for chapter three, go back to my original style, or stay with the new style.

I try to not do major modifications of content that is already published but It's quite common for me to do small tweaks. In general I fix spelling/grammar mistakes and, since I'm using the scrolling format (which I'm not used to), also readjust the panels (their position or the spacing between them).
Even if I try to avoid it, it's also common to modify some text for the sake of clarity or change small details in the drawing.

For instance the last change I have done in an already published page:

When I do this changes I'm more satisfied with the final result but at the same time it annoys me the fact that I spend on them some time that I could have used to draw new content.

My advice, that I'm trying to apply to myself, would be to plan better in the initial stages to avoid wasting time later fixing things. Moreover, if you are working with a tight schedule it might be better to forget about the published content, assume it's good enough, and focus on the new one. If you are drawing for fun, and don't care about publishing sooner or later, just do whatever you want, do as many changes as you need until you are satisfied with the result.

You mean like redoing pages you've posted already? Because I have done that. When I posted the first few pages of Aiiro No Kunoichi here to Tapas, I changed the speech bubbles to match the ones shown in later pages.

Not a huge difference, obviously, but I wanted to be consistent. Also the text in the original page was super sloppy anyway. :stuck_out_tongue:

But yeah, I try to avoid doing major changes to old pages, otherwise it gets tempting to get stuck in a constant loop of redoing things. Better to focus on the future than worry too much about the past!

ummm... I'm currently going through a major remodeling LMAO look at these

I started my comic when I knew NOTHING about making comics and I started to get really disillusioned with the quality of it so I took a break and started to learn about sequential art and digital art. I learned so much that I just can't let the comic have terrible pages in the beginning and then have a huge gap in style.

It takes a while but now everything goes faster since I have skeletons to work off of. I really can't wait to catch up again and keep telling my story!

I have done major changes because my comic started out as two separate stories. Character designs changed or more accurately they evolved to fit with the now merged storylines. Neither story would've been able to carry itself to conclusion by itself, but now that they're both one comic, everything just fell into place.

I've attached a pic of my OC(Victory) from years ago and what she looks like now. I've also included a pic of Tarow from when I was in grade 6 and what she looks like presently.

I'm pretty happy with how it's turning out. I've also redrawn everything since I began my combined comic when I was 15. For me, the major overhaul was needed, but I also have fallen into the infinite loop of redesign and tweaking from time to time. The best advice I can give is if you think you need to make a change, big or small, to have your comic reach whatever your goal with it is, then do it, but be careful about getting sucked into the redraw trap that prevents you from moving the story forward.

Oh yes. I drew 3 brand new pages for my intro. And disposed 3 finished chapters that had 72 pages...:frowning: I'm not scared of working hard for this, I want to be proud of my work. I am currently in the episode zero which has my beginner quality, but next chapters will have many improvements...and it hurt a lot to realize that what I was doing was not good enough for what I want, and had to start over. We will have the vertical style and more fluid poses because the characters were far too stiff. I like the current episode tough, It was such a good practice.
Here is an example: Two ugly ass pages with text box explanation vs illustrated explanation.


vs

I've been thinking about rebooting one of my comics1, since I've been working on it for several years and update rather sparingly. A little while back I took a look at one of my old pages and redrew it in my current style, and I'm thinking I might just do a complete overhaul if I ever publish it.

Here's the before image, chapter 1 page 17, drawn back in 2015:

and here's the re-take, drawn last year: