I kiiinda see what you're saying, but you can't just "get over" a critique unless you learn that it's OK to feel bad and dejected about a critique, I mean you put hours into that work that just got torn apart--go ahead and feel bad about it. And it's OK to blame the critiquer if they're being too harsh. If you refuse to feel anything at all, if you say "Well I have no right to feel bad and it's my fault if I take this the wrong way" that's basically victim blaming. They feel bad because they were hurt. That's what a critique can do if it isn't worded gently enough.
Have you considered asking your students individually, why they felt bad over critiques? You raised some good points for one side of the argument, but are you sure you understand why they may feel particularly rejected? While it's not necessarily your responsibility to address this, learning more about the individual and their struggle may help you develop a better connection, thus allowing them to open up to your advice as practical encouragement and not just talk.
For me, I learned to value my art for its content as opposed to craftsmanship. I used to do it the other way around (even recently) until I realized I've always been good at coming up with content and that's what many people long for since anyone can easily learn craftsmanship. Being really good at the language of art isnt going to make or break me, just help me improve on what I do well regardless. So there's less pressure to get it right, but enough incentive to keep improving.
I take critique fairly if I asked for it.
I don't take the critique well if someone gives me advice on something I already know (ie. give vague advice like work on anatomy, commenting on design or colour choice when it's not my own design in the first place)
My favourite kind of critique: redline/edits to my artwork with notes on what changed/why it changed.
i'm truly hungry of critics on my works. and i listen on EVERY critics, no matter what.
BUT
from my point of view, problem is not the critics. problem is how the world is becoming, because directly ...look like everyone is your friend and everything you do is "so good!!!11! kawaiii". but then, in anonimity... it's the opposite: u are horrible like your works, die.
wth.
I have been getting a lot of bad ones lately because I'm trying something new. I always take them seriously if it says something specific that I can improve on i.e. linework, hire an editor, etc. if it's just general chatter, i ignore it.
i really want my readers to have a good experience reading my comics and novels and I want to eventually do it at a professional level someday but the road to that is paved with a lot of sharp rocks so you have to watch your step and move smart.
I think it is important to remember that a criticism, even if you feel it's a valid one, is not an order. You aren't obligated to act on it. (so I am confused by the reactions of some of my friends I asked to critic me, "I gave you my critics but you did not fixed anything that I pointed out, I won't comment your works ever again because it's a waste of my time")
It should be treated like an information to think over, not as instructions. This way you can fish over something useful even out of nonconstructive shitty critics, as long as it is not simple "your thing sucks".
I never had been trolled, and honestly it's kinda makes me feel left out of this experience.
I took there advice to improve my comics, whatever its lacking I will cover it up in future times when I had my chances.
Many people as far as I know are a bit too sensitive and would flat out defend their work which might end up in a brawler comments, I have been hiding in the shadows watching creator/authors reply to critics and learn from them of their positives and negatives.
Just so you know I did join tapas two years ago and I haven't been publishing any comics until 2019 of May.
By all account if those critiques reveals to you of what you are lacking in your comic or novel, such as character development and lore dumping (which it seems I have suffered through) best you take it and improve upon it.
Just don't be like those current creators outside of tapas like Rian Johnson, J.J. Abraham and the director of female Thor who would call their critiques and people who loved their long time franchise man babies or post a picture of their employees and supporters drinking a mug that is written man tears.
Its not healthy as far as I'm concern and not a good message for any creators.
Well, great for all you guys who take them good =) I am, probably, really bad at taking critiques? Not that anyone with good enough level of art (or maybe even any level) ever gave me a constructive critique, I would probably be thankful for that.
Other that that, I suppose I just feel offended that I put everything I could in the work and the person didn't just went past, but took his time to tell me how bad I am. Not that I would say anything to them to defend myself, but the hurt is done.
And the worst part, those kind of critique is not helping "to grow into a great artist", because are not giving you any useful information. So I am glad there were so little of those for me.
But this is just coming from self-confidence deficiency, of course... so maybe I am better at it now, who knows ^^
I try to ignore anything that isn't helpful. Like I'm already aware I should "practice art to get better" or i need to "work on my anatomy" etc etc. Those types of critiques are just so useless IMO because they pretty much apply to nearly everyone who is posting something in say a critique forum. Those people generally just want to feel helpful but don't know how to give feedback yet. They're not malicious or anything, it's just reflects their skill level for being a critic.
I try to ignore those mean ones, but obviously some days those types of things can linger in your head. I just remember that most people who straight up post mean comments, or people who are mean for no reason to you in life (in general not just as a critic) are usually dealing with their own life garbage and probably taking it out on you because you were the first available punching bag they saw. Many times their issues with you have nothing to actually do with you.
As for actual useful criticism I can use to improve, I love that stuff, gimme more please. I just wish it wasn't so hard to find. Luckily I have a handful of friends who I can ask when I'm really in a bind and they all know how to help me improve.
I take everything in consideration, even if I don't agree at first (except for trolls, well didn't happen to me yet). I take the feedback to at least notice some aspects I didn't think much about or wasn't really sure about it's quality.
I mostly won't re-do or "fix" an artwork right away, but I'll take the points into consideration later in future works.
Personally I always get upset no matter how the critique is delivered. You could be as nice and sugarcoating as possible and my feelings would still get hurt.
I suppose it’s because I’m already painfully aware of my own shortcomings and when people point out those things I just think “what’s the point in improving” because I already work to improve the thing and it’s still not any good.
Or you know, like the other person doesn’t know how hard I’ve already worked to improve but like all I see is a negative comment rather than praise for how far I’ve come from where I started.
Does that make sense? Then of course you just have your personal peeves from people like “boobs too big” and I just wanna say “tell that to my 34G tiddies, bitch”. I mostly get that indirectly tho, like people crapping on the concept of women having tig ol bitties in comics or whatever - suggesting only pervy men make those characters and then these people reduce the character to just fanservice, which says a lot more about them than it does the creator of the characters.
Hm, anyway I actually respond better to harsher criticism because I dig in and won’t relent to it. Nice critique always makes me feel bad for disagreeing with the person giving the critique, because they’re coming from a well meaning place and are trying to be helpful.
I think my main issue is tho - I didn’t ask for critique or criticism, so don’t give it to me.
THAT SAID, I’m actually more open to critique when it comes to my writing because I have no idea what I’m doing and all I can tell is that it’s not good.
Insulting my work, however, I enjoy - it lights a fire under my ass and makes me want to work even harder just to piss off that person.
It depends on what type of criticism it is.
If it's the type that's simply saying my work is awful and I should try harder without giving me tips, I simply ignore. They mainly do it because they want to get a rise out of you.
If it's helpful (comic layout, etc.) I find it quite useful and will consider trying it out next time.
If it's a suggestion about the characters or story, I'll thank them and appreciate the comment; but I won't change them since I already have everything planned out.
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Maybe it's because I work in graphic design, that I feel things in a different way. I heard that many comics went through a lot of changes ( Sailor Moon for example) I think a market study helps to understand better what is the public looking for. You can have a great story but it is the right moment to publish?. Something like that.