The ridiculous standards webtoon has set for creators

[nkapit]

Fundamentally this is how capitalism works, the need for companies to extract as much profit with as little investment as possible, without regard for any ethical costs. What Webtoon is doing is what happens across every industry that can get away with it— that’s the really horrifying part.

[TroyVSTheWorld]

I don't see a future in Webtoons and Tapas unless you're the top percentage, y'know?

Personally, I've been thinking lately I want to step back, regress the formula a bit. Back in the early days of webcomics, the strongest comics didn't need Keenspot or whatever to host, they had their own sites. And webcomics got big because of webrings. Not social media, not Tapas or Webtoons, but websites. Webcomic websites, with links to other webcomics. Forums existed, not discord!

Ideally, I want to create a new community of webcomics. Maybe its just delusions of grandeur, fantasizing about being revolutionary, but, you're never gonna change the world if you never try.

Here's what I'm thinking: Get 4 other comickers on board for one site, that releases 5 different strips M-F. IE Artist A releases on Monday, B on Tuesday, etc. Not even the same comic, everyone just doing their own comic (preferably like-minded), just hosted on the same site to corral people to. From there, you've already got a team onboard with the power of 5x what you'd have by yourself. Create a community based off these artists, add forums, talk it out, and people will WANT to join this community, as long as people are able to find out about it.

Its just, we can't win if we play their game. We have to flip the table.

[Prometheus]

Nah, I agree. I want to be liberated by creating my stories, not a slave to them.

[Prometheus]

I agree with this whole-heartedly. Catering to consumers is important for a business, but I fear societies have gone down a toxic rabbit hole that dictates to them without considering those with which the consumers are actually purchasing the product from. There's a lot of take and not much give. It's heavily focused on what we want right now rather than being sensible and patient.

[conventurecomics]

What I'd like to know how some of webtoons gets tons of subscribers overnight. Let's
say comics start after yours, they don't have social media, and there up on canvas uploaded about half of what episodes you have let's say you have 39 episodes only 58 subs, they have 11 episodes terrible one page art or just random promo art and there sub count is 1k to 500k all of a sudden how.

[arxianfall]

Sounds like bots or an army of "trained to sub" kids.

Or a paid karma farm. You know, those places with a lot of accounts and phones in some basement, ready to offer their services for a price.

[sable40k]

Are specific examples of this allowed? I'd be really interested to see a comic that only consists of promo art

[gabriellabalagna]

Sometimes it's a reboot and they tell all their followers to come to the new version. So they get a bunch of subs right off the bat.

Other times, I'm not sure.

[VibrantFox]

some instances of sudden growth can be a consequence of quality or prior followings on other websites or from previous works

of course it doesn't dismiss the fact that growing on any platform can be a challenge again leading to those really high working requirements and standards but thats why theres been this whole wave of creators getting vocal about the current environment and whatnot

as for what things can be done to fix it is still kind of up in the air but thats the point of people speaking up now

[bloodstained.skies]

This may work for people who draw comics as a full time job but it's almost impossible for someone with other job or school

[conventurecomics]

That I still don't get tbh.

[conventurecomics]

Gowing comics is a long process.

[conventurecomics]

It would be interesting if those promo comics can grow.

[conventurecomics]

Possibly. Who knows.

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