Since the story I'm currently writing kind of encourages it, I don't really mind It's kind of fun to see what big ships might arise out of my series, of course, assuming it gets big enough to even have a lot of people shipping my characters. In the fan communities I've been in, shippers tend to be very interactive with the series and pay close attention to character details so they can portray the ship dynamics well. If someone paid attention to my series like that, I'd be honored!
I'd probably draw the line at people demanding me to change main ships or starting fights over it. Shipping can get pretty nasty pretty fast, so I hope I don't draw in people like that...
I will make absolutely no attempts to control shipping; even supremely messed up ships, as long as they're tagged properly as stuff that is never okay IRL and they're not casually discussed in general conversations so that people who don't wanna see that shit/would be hurt by it don't stumble across it.
Even if it makes my character OOC or terrible people, or if it's something I'd never want to read about myself, I want the world to have full freedom to do whatever they want with my work as long as they're not using it to hurt others.
I'm actually AT the point where the shipping has started ...Honestly, I'm fine with it. I knew my story would have romance subplots, and I've engaged in shipping myself on occasion (mostly the Rosemary Homestuck ship). Shipping is fun!
The only ship I outright object to would be stuff like biological siblings like Rekki x Rocket (bleh) or Urien x Jules (THE WORST SHIP IMAGINABLE. EW EW EW abort!!! Please do not ship the siblings with a 12 year age gap where one of them is clearly abusive to the other!). Or shipping adults with minors (it's not meant to be romantic when 22 year old Urien in the prologue acts seductive with 14 year old Rekki to manipulate her. It's meant to be creepy, and thankfully the audience seem to all read that correctly).
Though I'm not a massive fan of people shipping characters with a sibling-like dynamic like Rekki and Jules. I can kind of get it... I guess, they're very comfortable around each other, they banter a lot and stuff, but it is funny to me when people see Urien leering over his former squire and go "ew ew creepy, red flag!", but then will ship Rekki with her old squire... though at least the age gap is a lot smaller between those two, and Rekki has never been abusive towards Jules in the way Urien clearly has been to Rekki.
Anything else though? Yeah, go for it. I can't promise it'll make it canon though! I've already decided who ends up with who! My partner loves coming up with weird ships to troll me, like Rekki x Lacey, or Sarin x Sylvia. Like if somebody wants to explore the different scenario from the one I go with, or just possibilities, I'm just happy they're so invested in my characters to want to do that.
My comic only exists because my partner ships so many of my characters, lol. He pushed me to making a romance story and I figured it'd be a really interesting and new experience that I could also learn from.
My thoughts on shipping. Hm.
First off, I trust my community of readers. I trust them to sort of manage themselves and keep each other in line, and I've seen this in action already. I'm not worried about weird bad ships happening because, well, if they do happen those people just have issues anyway and that's beyond my comic.
I think shipping is a big deal. It means those people are invested enough in your characters that they want to see them in all sorts of situations, and imagine how they'd be in certain relationship dynamics. I believe it is a totally normal, healthy, and positive thing. It's a genuine sign of interest in the characters.
I think it's also a bit weird to have any problems with it. I mean, if you don't want people to ship your characters, then don't put them out in the public for people to do that with. It's not like it's harmful or degrading or somehow an insult to the characters. If anything, it's a kind of appreciation toward them.
Yeah, I agree with this. People ship characters because they really like those characters and want to explore that dynamic, or because they relate to them strongly and want to explore their own feelings through those characters.
Once your characters are out there in the world, they're not just your precious OCs any more, they're fictional characters that can exist in other people's minds, and if somebody thinks your character is so well fleshed-out that they want to imagine them in other scenarios, that's a huge compliment to you as a writer!
Dont forget My Hero Academia fans. Like those guys cant seem to separate their fan ships from reality (BakuDeku will never become a thing no matter how many times they send death threats to the series' Mangaka)
Off topic but even to this day, I still find it strange that the Voltron fandom came to that point. Like I remember watching the 80s Voltron on Netflix and Voltron Force on Nicktoons when I was 10 and not once did I ever think that a reboot would come along when I was 14 and would goner a lot of toxic shippers. Its crazy
I'll be fine with it, as long as people are respecful about it lol.
I have a few that to me seems like potentials, I don't write a romance and there wont be too much romantic things in the comic, tho a friend of mine already ships two of the main characters together haha, but that is partially on me xD
My general thoughts about shipping is that its a sign that readers are invested in your characters! Unless of course its crack ships but even then, just the notion that people would wanna play with my "dolls" too is fun to me.
Ngl, I do have that fear that people will go crazy with who they ship and start flame warms over with, when in all honesty its not much of a big deal.
Something I dont think I brought up yet nor, surprisingly, everyone here is the whole anti vs pro ship, which my generation (gen z) seems to be obsessed with. I honeslty think the whole thing is stupid and lacking nuance with the whole 'You're either for it or against it" thing. For real, its so stupid XD
I'm all in favor of shipping, I think its a great way to transport goods a long distance.
When it comes to shipping characters, I'd probably be okay with it. I just ask that shippers have the humility to accept that their ships are not canon and I'm still gonna do the story my way. Some shippers act like they own the characters and can tell everyone else, including the author, how to pair up the characters. I can do without that sort of behavior.
Shipping has been around, but "proship vs antiship" is pretty new.... but it's less about whether you're in favour of shipping or not, and more about policing what kinds of ships are allowed, and the extremes on both sides can get ridiculous. I definitely lean more "pro" BUT some of the pro side are literally like "shipping minors in sexual situations is fine, shipping siblings is fine, I shouldn't be responsible for keeping my explicit fics and fanart out of reach of children." but then the anti side are awful too and are like "You can't ship characters who are adults but who were depicted as children at any point on the story, any story in which there's any conflict between characters means it's an abusive relationship, you're not allowed to have ships with age gaps even if both characters are consenting adults" etc. etc.
...Meaning I can't call myself "proship" because I'm not sure the extreme of "you can publish anything anywhere and should never face consequences," is something I agree with... But I also don't really like antis, because they're so outrageously puritan and often just power-tripping or projecting their weird insecurities because they're very inexperienced or have a lot of trauma they ought to talk through with a professional, not take out on fic writers.
It was around back then, but it was more of a tumblr thing I think.
Personally, as long as it isn't someone or something that cannot consent, I could give a crap. People wanna ship twins? Go ahead. Old lady and young guy? Don't care. Threesome? Do you, man.
Predatory people might use shipping wars as an excuse for their trash, but that's different IMO and it's just a cover up for the real issue. Pedos will use all kinds of shit to make excuses for their grossness. I remember well when they tried to jump on the 'born that way' train back in the day with LGBT+ folk. As I'm sure you are also aware, we weren't having any of that nonsense.
But I don't feel those are genuine aspects of pro/anti shipping arguments. They're just creeps trying to jump on whatever narrative they can possibly think might benefit 'em.
Actually... I wanted to reply to this topic earlier but then I lost the thought, haha. I think shipping does come kinda naturally as people do enjoy to couple up everyone with anyone. I mean it's really fun, also for the artist I think it must be interesting in my opinion. I wouldn't be really bothered if anybody would pair up any characters in their imagination.
I hinted at it in my previous comment, but I didn't think I should discuss much further because this topic makes me anxious. It's been a few days though, soo ... cracks knuckles
I'm basically completely pro-ship*, with the exception of "I shouldn't be responsible for keeping my explicit fics and fanart out of reach of children" which I absolutely do believe creators have a responsibility to do, especially with ships that are not only explicit but abusive. (I also don't support real person fics :P)
The 'proship and antiship' debate is pretty new in its current form, but the sentiments behind it from both sides have been around for a while, from what I've read -- Archive of Our Own [became a thing back in 200 in no small part (though not completely) due to other sites like LiveJournal purging fanfics containing content considered unacceptable (which was admittedly a wider category back then and contained things that would not be harmful when done by real people in the real world). The point of Ao3 was so that people could write anything, as long as it's tagged properly, and if you look at some of the tags there you can see it accepts some incredibly messed up shit.
But yeah, there's a piece of fandom history for ya. If I'm misinformed, feel free to correct me, though I'm not sure when I'll be getting back to this thread because yeah, this topic is stressful to talk about
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I believe fiction is not reality, and fiction only affects reality in dangerous ways because people don't have to completely honest and transparent about the contents or messages in their work. Normalization doesn't work if everything depicting the content that people are allegedly trying to normalize has to be prefaced with a big flashing neon sign saying 'this isn't and shouldn't be normal'.
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