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Definitely. I'm sorry that you had to go through that type of experience.

And I think in terms of female characters, people on the internet have a hard time grasping the idea that we all don't respond the same way to every situation. Anger is a reaction, but so is joy, comfort, sadness, and even not really knowing how you (or a character) is supposed to feel.

My protagonist is still a strong character even though in a time of panic, she wants/needs her dad. There is nothing wrong with that.

That is one of the many rejection letters for manuscript submission that writers receive every now and then, and believe me, it hurts to get your researched and constructed labour thrown back at you more often than it is accepted.

But then one must get back on their feet and soldier on if one is to reach one's desired destination.

You came back swinging! That's great :slight_smile: Love the name Artemis, too!

That's painful. I was one of those narrow-minded people years ago who had a limited idea of how a victim responds to abuse (as someone who lived it for years), and I hurt a fellow writer with my "critique" on her character and how she dealt with child abuse. I realized as time went on that there's literally no limits to how one may react as a victim or a survivor or something/someone. It really sucks that she was hurt just for me to learn something I should have realized before.

Despite all of the awareness these days about mental illness, mental health, trauma, etc, there are still people who will gatekeep victims and their reactions. I've been told to my face before that my anxiety and my panic attacks aren't justified because the perpetrator had a "difficult life". How that makes any sense to anyone, I have no idea. Things are slowly getting better far as understanding the diversity of reactions in victims goes, at least. It's a very slow progress, and it should be much faster, but it's better than nothing.

I'm sorry both of you had these experiences. It hits on another level beyond just writing.

The situation you're describing @cherrystark makes SO much sense. I don't understand what the reader missed.

What? Where did this expectation come from? Most sex scenes I've come across are very vague and brief unless I've stumbled upon a Romance I didn't know had Erotica as a sub-genre. Maybe I haven't read Romance in a long time. Regardless, I don't think a story shouldn't be held to the expectations of what other writers have done with their stories in that way.

Sorry that happened to you and the friendship was no longer viable. I've experienced something similar, and to this day I won't let them read anything of mine because of it. Those pet names sound really unique and interesting!

Well said @emmzy. Looking back on it now, I think she was expecting the quintessential "strong female character" response where the female MC spews venom at anyone (particularlly a man) that hurts her. The fact that my MC has a sensory disorder or is prone to panic attacks probably never entered her head.

No feedback is the worst feedback for me.

It's not that the feedback itself was hurtful or rude, it's the constant rejection. No matter how polite it is, it's painful to hear 10 "no"s for every one "yes". And if you're hearing over and over "Oh, this is good and should be published- just not by me! :slight_smile: " that does start to sting.

Just my attempt to clarify, based on how I read it, I obviously can't speak for @CarltonIsaac !

I'm confused too. Without context, it looks like an excellent piece of advice, and a publisher cannot do much about the fact a work (even a good one) does not fit the type of work they publish.
Unless, of course, it does fit what they publish but they used that easy way to reject.. Don't know, don't know context.

I got this comment on the very last episode of the previous Web-Comic I wrote. (I am providing a print screen of the comment below.)

I was in a bit of a shock when I first read it, but thankfully it was the only one among many positive comments so I quickly got over it and moved on. This comment made me understand the saying, you can't please everyone, so just write for yourself. Make sure that if at least one person likes your story, that person is you.

The hurtful comment said:

Beyond this one comment, I have received many other comments from people (but usually in private) telling me what they didn't like or what they believed didn't work in my stories. I always see such feedback as opportunities to get better and none of them has actually ever hurt me yet.

I have also been lucky I guess, so far, to hear from people that were professional in their approach and they either didn't want to hurt me or were kind enough to take the time to offer constructive criticism that helped me understand their P.O.V and helped me become a better writer (or I hope so anyway :slight_smile:).

As for rejections, that others have mentioned, yeah I received plenty of those as well, and even though they can sting, they are unavoidable and anyone who is serious about being a writer (of any kind) will have to learn to deal with them I think. The worst I ever got from being rejected was a temporary lack of motivation before I got back to writing again.

That comment made me think of the old ladies at church who would let their toddler read the book of revelations in the bible whilst simulatiously claim tom and Jerry is too violet for their 13 year old and get it banned.

Dunno seems just a random nutter, who no one should take seriously.

"better let the murder go free...."
Yeah the would definatitly stopped Hilter, lynches of innocents and the toy box killer. 100% :rolling_eyes:

Some people need to go outside and look and the less fortunate from time to time... gives one some perspective

That random image is a sample of a rejection letter.

To aspire to be a professional writer rejection is part of the profession and each time it is a hit on morale after having put in the effort. to submit a piece.

thegrinder.diabolicalplots.com is one of the many sites that writers find publications to submit their writings to, if you wish to experience what is being refereed to,

I don't know in what field you work, but in science, getting your work rejected is like... the standard xD You can even find the rate of acceptance of journals online, and for the majority, it's very low. It's nothing personal against you or the people you write for. Also, if impact factor is important in your area are you're new to it, you may wanna start by reading the journal's scope and some of their papers to get a better idea, then do a list with the journals you'd like to publish, start with the one that has the highest IF, and go down from there once you get rejected. Just a small suggestion, there are websites with more comprehensive advice. If you know all that then please disregard my message ^^

Also:

May I ask what scientific journal pays for their papers? It's the other way around haha

damn, I'm sorry you had to go through that
Not to get too personal my story's similar in that way, where its kind of a therapy
and I've heard so many people tell stories similar to yours that at this point I'm just kind of expecting someone to tell me I deserve to get assaulted for having my characters go through that or that their experiences are unrealistic when they're based off mine.

like Idk how someone can say that and still consider themselves a good person.

I think the most hurtful feedback ive ever gotten was simply "this is shit why do you bother" nothing else no criticism or anything. Made me stop writing for a while though.

:slight_smile:

Can't say, Never wrote for any.

Best way to go about it.

A spoof sample found on google, though similar in nature to.

I don’t feel pain, only disappointed….

That being said would anyone like to be my first hate comment?

As a comic writer it was something like "I am getting bored with this, do something interesting" - all while the character just got out of torture by hunger and self-torture by exercise to stab the torturer and be stabbed back with more dire consequences. All because they wanted the torturer and the tortured to...make out. (which didn't happen)

It felt mostly hurtful because it felt like they are flexing power over my creative intent, and I am obligated to comply, but because I don't, they return again and again to "help me" by reminding they want this and everything else - even character's literal suffering is not important and boring.

As just a writer it was not the feedback but lack thereof. X) Idk maybe during the time in my country it was okay to not even send back a rejection letter even if writer spends money for it. However, they always could blame postal service.