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OttoGruenwald
Oct '19
qwerty

It's conceivable, but so is AI advancing to the point where it's basically human. As AI stands, they're good at certain kinds of thinking and bad at others. Before you see AI artists, you're likely to see centaur artists. https://thenextweb.com/contributors/2018/01/20/ai-will-turn-workforce-sweet-business-centaurs/4

Think some sort of device that draws what you think. "Okay I want this character to have body type A, and I want this character to wear a sweater." It would produce from a template but you'd have to put the composition together.

OttoGruenwald
Oct '19
Cavechan

That's another good point. AI are bad at correcting. They aren't going to get "I want this character to look a little more fearsome, a little more menacing." Or "I want this character to look sad but not bawling-sad, like a quiet sadness."

rmdooley
Oct '19

AI replicates programmed patterns
Artists create the patterns

TAMAnnoyingThe Cow
Oct '19
qwerty

The problem with thinking like this is forgetting that people like other people, people like brands. People like something that is both different while also being reliable. The reason why people have favorite artist isn’t just the art style but what they draw- who they draw- not only that but often who the artist is. I’m sure these things will replace art that most people don’t care about- the pictures they hang up in their house that matches the curtains- but it will not replace personalized pieces. OC drawings, detailed landscapes, fantasy designs. These things are easy for a code to copy but almost impossible for a code to bring originality or “personality” maybe if one of these AIs have a personality and it’s own “brand” it will have fans that go to it, but at that point I think AIs with personality.... it’s gonna be a very different world by then.

As for my personal thoughts.... honestly? These feel less like “replacing artist” and very familiar to how most people react when they realize photoshop has filters and there are OC creation apps, they will be used maybe for reference and for fun but in the end it will not replace the “artist”

Rhonder
Oct '19
Cavechan

Here, I'll share my hideous creation with the tool xD

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submitting a comic page as the "style" didn't seem to mesh very well LOL

indagold
Oct '19

it'll be a gimmick people get bored of quickly or implemented into art production to make things faster but still have human influence. Also it would be cool as fuck to just like sync up your brain to a computer and have the computer create your thoughts when it takes days just to figure out a character design.

sekabead
Oct '19

IMO it won't. It will be complementary instead. Artist will use it to be "just another tool". Yes I know there was a machine-generated imagery winning an art contest7, but it's extremely tedious to make such kind of art.

Computer is not really that good for something that is not repetitive, is not structured in some way, and requires creativity. Machines can "learn" to understand human speech in English because the fact that English is semi-structured, and it does require gazillion data just to feed a program to understand us. For a language with so many colloquial form of speech, AI is still having a hard time, even google translate is still failed4

It's becoming a norm that big companies and mainstream media outlets really want us to believe that AI can replace everything and is solution to everything. But is it? I'd say it's half-truth half-lies.

sekabead
Oct '19
indagold

I've just remembered that's quite something Google want to do actually right? Putting chips in our brain....

Then they can collect and study our behaviour, pushing ads right into our brain so we'd buy things easier, and other companies decide to jump into the ship and then...... wow it's a story idea!

bear1
Oct '19

I doubt human artists will become ever fully obsolete. But I wouldn’t be surprised certain skills will be, such as coloring or background drawings/design. We are already on the way where you can create BGs with CGI and programs like clip studio are working on AI coloring methods.
However, I doubt AI will ever be able to do all (or even most) of the work. Unless we are talking about comics or art in the rage-comic style or such.

In other words, we as artist will nit become obsolete but our way of working may become easier :slight_smile:

erudenedure
Oct '19

Even when/if an AI is able to create wholly individual art, it's not any different than the plethora of artists available today. Certain people and certain programs will have differing styles. Even when a program is designed to copy another person's style, people will still enjoy differing renditions. It's the same with AUs of popular fandoms or different takes on characters; people enjoy possibilities.

In theory, automation can take over a lot of jobs, which leaves swaths of people free to focus on their passions. (Which we'll need an economic safety net for these people, but putting that aside for now.) I'm excited for a potential future where creative people can focus on what they enjoy creating, or even just exploring, since that will bring an influx of media options for the population. I hope it happens in my time, because that'd be interesting to see how it evolves or how society changes because of it.

GabiWolf
Oct '19

Seeing as an AI hasn’t already replaced singers and music artist, We have nothing to worry about.
There is actually an AI that if fed popular styles of music will generate a whole new song, but we still have singers.

We love art because of the human element, the emotion, the expression. Computers can’t create that. This was actually a topic in my Philosophy of art class, which is where I found out about this music producing bot.

IdiotWithPencil
Oct '19

Ai can only create with references I.E it can only create what is already created
which is the basic for what finding a style entails.
No Ai can replace all artist since it would be like replacing picasso with leonardo
two styles two different audiences.

Now they may replace artist in the corporate world for a while until the corporations notice they are losing all their money cause people are tired of the "Bland" product the A.I would create I.E people get tired of the same style of product

but still that's a long time in the future

machimaquiaveli
Oct '19

I'm so happy to see most people here supports artist! <3 <3 <3 I mean, a machine can create amazing stuff but only based on other people's work, to have a machine with enough imagination to rival with a human is to go too far away in AI. I mean, can you picture a machine inventing Gaudi's style out of no-where?

Or Dali's?

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AVXP
Dec '19

AI or any machine can only create CRAFT, not art.
Being assigned a task or job as in 'programmed' to do a function does not lead to art.
That leads to craft- the same way a machine can weave a basket or etch a pattern in metal.

Art is an expression of the human (creator/watcher/receiver's) condition, rendered through imagination.
The closest place is a commission, which is art for profit. [that's still (considered mostly) a craft]
A machine would not be creating art for profit, it would be creating art as a response to a command or prompt.

The AI would have to be expressing its own machine condition and use its imagination to express it.
THAT would be art(istic) to a MACHINE and NOT humans as we could not relate and humans would not consider it art.
It would be a crafted thing, done by a machine.
And it would be appreciated as artistically crafted, not art.

For those that got lost.
Machine art is when your printer crashes or has a problem and prints some garbled, almost-image that seems to use every color and character, but makes a big smear across the page. THAT is ART to a printer. It is using an image to express that something is wrong and any other thing that sees it, understands that.

We humans- do not relate to that printer in distress and consider that printout a problem that needs fixing.
That's why people who can't appreciate ART and STYLE only see pictures that 'don't look quite right'.
They are missing the message AND, more importantly, THE INTENT.

Remove the intent and remove the meaning, it's not art.
It's craft. Machines do that well already.

gempompadour
Dec '19

I doubt AI will make artists obsolete unless we can create true sentient AI that's human like. Then we'd be dealing with feeling/thinking beings that can create art (though would they even want to is another question entirely.)

An AI that's just super good and fast at creating models and solutions (usually mathematical) to problems is not something I see as being capable of replacing humanity's artists. But we'll see.

LCT_m_a_d
Dec '19
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Sorry for the essay (cause I hate reading long posts online)

In my opinion as a technologist by profession and fineartist ... consider the following with a grain of salt.

Right now the art market (and consequently art culture) largely favors the supply pool of speed, quantity, and accessibility. 3 areas humans are grossly outmatched by technology...especially data driven AI. So artists who rely on productivity and metric driven strategy, which is probably the biggest pool of successful artists will likely be replaced by AI.

I believe that a small pool of currently successful artists who are driven by a slower output and reliance on human-human connection/collab as a brand will survive the cut, and quality/skill driven uncessucessful artist will find a new clearing in the marketplace as they will change what art fans and critics consider valuable.

In short,
It depends on the fanbase's ability decision to consume content based on values and not impulse

user400
Dec '19

I believe that AI will soon be able to create art that human's won't be able distinguish from man made art. Not because it understands human emotions or anything like that, but by simple trial and error.

Once it's good enough, humans will (falsely) project emotions and motivations to the art the AI made. And that's the point where some will claim AI has surpassed artists.

I don't think it's anything to worry about though. Someone still has to tell the AI what's good or bad. I believe that person then becomes the "AI artist", and the AI becomes just another tool for artists to express themselves with.

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Swamp
Dec '21

I think AI will take a lot less jobs from artists, and redefine what the purpose of art is, less than the camera.

Also, the more procedural work my computer can do in making backgrounds and stuff, the more I can focus on telling my story.

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