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Sep 2018

Whelp, that probably would have gone well, but apparently it doesn't let you select CSP files for import......

I don't have any problems importing CSP files to stories...? I wonder what the difference is. I just have to click Story(P) --> import page and it lets me do that.

But I agree with people that not being able to name the files as you please is annoying. Otherwise it's really nice to be able to see everything at once.

(meant to edit that previous post, not delete :'''D ...And now I notice that un-delete button. Oh well.)

Story -> Import does allow you to add CSP files however Batch Import does not, which is weird. This software isn't very intuitive at all the there are lots of these issues throughout.

There are vector layers in Clip Studio Paint.

Aside from the comic specific things like tone, and panels you can do everything Clip Studio Paint can do in Photoshop and illustrator. That includes animation and importing 3D objects. I mean the big thing about CSP is there is no subscription(not the iPad version because apple prefers it that way). It isn't really amazing at doing anything but comics, it's rather average at doing everything especially text but that's somewhat a good thing because you won't need multiple software to get your work done. It does a lot of stuff for the price which is why people switch to it and because they dislike Adobe.

Personally I've started using CSP EX with the affinity programs to cover for the tings CSP sucks at without getting a subscription or outdated software.

I just bought it to upgrade today, I dunno if it was worth it yet, but I'll find out :smiley:

I wouldn't want someone to pirate my stuff, so why would I do it to someone else? There are free programs that work just as well, there is no need to do that.

I currently use pro so I was kinda curious about the extra features. Then I saw this:

I am sold. I bought it literally just now for this lmao. I can spend hours adjusting text and lining up bubbles. There's a ton of other fun stuff too I see. $100 (or 80 ish for me) is a steal for something this convenient.

I've been using this software for years and I didn't even know about that. :laughing:

This option right here will organize the pages for you and rename new pages to the correct order (for the files in the folder).

I'm not sure about your importing problems though as I've haven't imported whole chapters into it yet.

Seeing as I get paid to make comics it would be in bad taste for me to pirate the program I use to make the pages I am getting paid for. So yes of course I paid for it. (unfortunately NOT when it was on sale. As I had a deadline to meet if I wanted to get paid AND I was unaware that it went on sale as often as it did. It could have been such an easier blow to my wallet)

Ah okay. That is very weird. Thank you for clarifying that point!

I'm curious about this feature since I currently typeset initially in CSP just to get the word bubbles the right size, but then I do all the final typesetting in Photoshop so I can adjust as needed. Does this feature break up the text by word (like Photoshop) or by letter (like CSP)? By letter is incredibly useless so if it can break up by word that would be very helpful.

From your screenshot, it doesn't look like it... but I'm assuming it's still in the adjustment phase?

Sweeeeeet! I will take a look at that feature!

Okay, what is going on here... that option isn't even there for me... I just upgraded a month or so ago so I don't have an older version or something...

I think I will try reaching out to their support to figure out what's going on.

Update: It looks like it must have been released very recently, right after I upgraded. Working on getting the newest version now.

So I haven't used photoshop to do comic editing before and the last time I used illustrator was 4 years ago so I can't really compare the two.

The thing that eats up the most time is trying to get the "shape" balanced, and in pro, that often meant playing around with adding spaces and using newlines in the middle of sentences. If I added words or changed the phrasing, I would often have to hunt for those custom spaces/newlines.

I played around with an old comic draft and here's what the storyboard looks like with the lines broken up:

One annoying thing though is that it doesn't seem to like editing lines that were made without the editor. The text is grayed out and it won't let me change the lines unless I modify it inside the "artwork". That might be because I made this particular page years ago so maybe it's an old version, but if you have to retype your lines to fully import pages that can be annoying. I'm still playing around though so who knows!

edit: Oh did you mean like, if you made a bubble a set size, does the text break itself up into lines automatically? It doesn't actually, or if it does, I have no idea how to consistently activate it. Dragging the bubbles around always moves the text but I can't seem to assign text to a bubble like illustrator used to do

After a few days now I personally don't see much advantage over PRO x.x I don't understand the advantage of the whole story thing, maybe I'm missing something?

Also I can't seem to find any option to get the outlines for 3D material? Maybe I'm missing something here as well? xD

It takes roughly 5 seconds to open a new page. If your chapter has 19 pages and you are using them as reference it saves a lot of time. That's honestly the whole point of a lot of paid software, it saves time for professionals. Otherwise you might as well just stick with something free. If you're don't care about efficiency or speed these advantages don't really matter at all. Clip Studio Paint markets EX as a "Premium tool for professional work." Even though anyone can use the advantages, most people aren't the target audience for the more expensive software.

Also I don't know about outlines as I don't use it but I think that's an EX thing. This should help maybe. https://ask.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=90005

Deciding whether a tool is right for you is going to depend a lot on your pain points in your process. If you only illustrate, for example, then the story features don't really matter at all. I used Pro just fine for years when I wasn't doing comic work, but when I DID do comic work... gosh I needed these extra features so badly (and sadly only found out recently lmao)

If you're having trouble finding menu items, try looking up youtube tutorials or watch how professionals use the tools for inspiration. Sometimes you see something simple and it's like "wait, you can use that tool to do that?!"

I'm using the CSP EX trial, and I'm really digging the little animation section they have. With a quick google on tutorials, I was able to navigate the thing fairly easily! I made this little gem just today, actually! :blush:

I'm also very much in love with the city/building pens. I'll definitely be experimenting with those later. I've yet to navigate through the comic/story sections, but I think a quick tutorial run will help me in no time!

Wow, so I just had an epiphany about importing multiple pages rather than one by one... (of course it happens as I'm trying to sleep lol). All you have to do is place the files into the folder with the appropriate file names! The pages still have to be sorted but it's a lot faster!

I'm excited to try out the story feature now! The two biggest issues I was having have been solved!

Nothing.

Most of the feature in EX version are for traditional manga and publisher, not for webcomic.
The story editor are half-baked, I find it's more convenient to use Word because I can work on multiple devices.
The 3D features is kind of gimmicky and not really useful in my case.
The animation tools are also half-baked, I just draw it in CSP and import them to Photoshop instead.

Just use the Pro version, if you're not plan to print and sell your comic.