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Well, I'm a bit out of the norm. I was at a point where it was either hire assistants to take on that work, or quit making comics because I just didn't have the time. Frankly I was at my wits end already even with assistants. So props to all those out there who do comics with a full time job, or full time study, cause I did and never again, I'm not even gonna try haha.

I think it's actually more rare for Canvas artists to hire assistants, most of them are 1 person comics, maybe 1-2 assistants here and there for bigger comics.

In fact.... I think all of my friends who were featured didn't have assistants. But they also got picked up within a year of doing the comic so they had to put up with work+education+comic for a shorter time than I did hahaha.

Hi there, just wondering, I like eastern/manga style as well, but since You are featured; what are the chances for black and white stories to become original??? I'am working my comic but I'm not fast when it comes down to colors. Can you tell us more on that matter, do stories need to be coloured or there's a chance for us, the ones how draw black and white to become original?

How You draw 40+ panels per week, when I can't draw even 1 per week?

Violence and for the sake of violence is also a no no. If there's a plot motive for having It in there you can negotiate for it but like, the real question is "do you need it?". Cause fi the answer if no, they'll want you to take it out.

do you mean all types of violence here, or just gore? because if it's all types of violence, it sounds like most action stories are a no-go.

Looks like you're still answering questions! I want to ask too hehe:

  1. How long was your hiatus before you launched the Webtoons Originals version of your comic? Do you still have to follow deadlines DURING that hiatus period?? Asking because I've seen comics go on for like, a full year between seasons or before launching.

  2. Any tips on gaining viewership on Webtoon Canvas? Kinda having trouble over there at the moment.... :sweat_01:

  3. How did it feel to get the email from Webtoon saying they wanted to feature you? (also i wanted to confirm whether it's true that editors are the ones that contact creators when they get featured hehe)

  4. Lastly, what are your favorite Webtoons atm? For me I really like Muted, Suitor Armor, and Brimstone and Roses - those got to be my top three, haha.

Much less. Webtoons doesn't like black and white comics very much. The most famous example of one that did make it though is I'm the Grim Reaper by Graveweaver. They started out black and white on Canvas but were asked to change it if they wanted to go to Originals, so they did and they now do full colour.

So it is possible to become an original as a black and white comic but a) it stacks the odds/chance of being an original against you and b) even if you do get taken to original, you'll likely have to redraw the entire comic in colour anyway.

And by stacking the odds, I'm saying that they'll have to find other reasons why your comic is worth the time and effort they'll have to put in to change such a big portion of your comic, compared to someone else who might be a straight reupload from Canvas to Original.

It's ok if you're slow, slow and steady is fine as long as you're consistent.

Hope that helps!

I sold my soul to the demon. .... :laughing:

But real talk, you get faster with experience. You learn tips and tricks for increasing the speed of your panels as you get used to drawing panels, and industry secrets get passed around to help become more efficient, I also had assistants as well so that helped a lot.

Do you not have enough time to draw more than 1 a week or are your panels taking you a very very long time?

Action violence is fine. It is gore but not just gore because torture can have zero blood and guts but still be brutal. It's more about how brutal the violence is. And whether it's there just to be a "shock" factor or whether there's a real legit reason to be there.

This is a big thing for Webtoons. It's written in even the Canvas terms and conditions that the romanticisation of brutal violence is against terms. (that's not how they word it, but it was something to that extent). Action, like Naruto, God of Highschool kinda thing, is completely fine.

Mine was about 5-6 months maybe a little bit more. You do have deadlines. Chances are if your favourite artist is on "hiatus" they are actually working at the exact same pace as during non-hiatus season. Sometimes it's cause we are building up a backlog, sometimes we might need to organise or discuss other things regarding the comic. We do get breaks here and there but not really more than a couple weeks unless there's an issue that's come up in our own lives, which could totally be the case! Usually though, it just takes a really long time to draw hahah.

Any tips on gaining viewership on Webtoon Canvas? Kinda having trouble over there at the moment.... :sweat_01:

I've always said this, but it really depends on your goals. If your goal is to get "big" on Canvas, or webcomic websites in general like Tapas as well, you're probably going to need to take a very different approach to if your goal for the comic is to make an art piece. That's not to say these two are mutually exclusive, it is possible, but again, your priorities will be different.

If you want to be big/gain viewership, common factors are choosing to do a comic with relatable and high demand topics. Romance is always in, cute/handsome main characters are always in. Drama is always in. Comedy is always in. Pretty, Korean/asian style art that is coloured nicely is in. Regular and very frequent posts (once a week preferably, once every 2 weeks acceptable but probably no less than that).

Anything more "indie" in genre and look is going to have a harder time getting traction. There are plenty of amazing, artistic and emotional deep comics I love and many people enjoy, but there's a reason why one is called indie and one is called mainstream. People like reading the same kinda thing over and over again. You can take many of those mainstream elements and add that into your comic, but yeah, It kinda really depends on where your priorities are.

Feel free to let me know if you know which way your prefer and if you want more in depth explanation, but that pretty much sums it up.

How did it feel to get the email from Webtoon saying they wanted to feature you? (also i wanted to confirm whether it's true that editors are the ones that contact creators when they get featured hehe)

I actually think I blanked. I had to read the email 7 times cause I thought I was reading it wrong hahaha. Mine was a weird situation because it was in the middle of a chain of emails I had been having with someone at webtoons (not an editor) and the Head of Content.... we stopped emailing for like months, so many months, and then suddenly the Head of Content replied and was like... you wanna pitch your comic to us to be featured?

It was so out of left field hahaha. So I actually don't know if editors contact the creators.... I didn't ask any of my friends. I assume so???

Lastly, what are your favorite Webtoons atm? For me I really like Muted, Suitor Armor, and Brimstone and Roses - those got to be my top three, haha.

I'm more of an All Time Favourite, kind of person over a current favourites. So in general my favs are: Your Letter, Amongst Us, Little Rain and Bastard.

Hi! I’m a formerly featured Webtoon do-er and just to add a slightly different perspective! I actually approached an editor myself when I did my featured webtoon and never actually posted on webtoon before that! A friend of mine who did work for them early on gave me their editor’s email and I asked if I could pitch and they gave me the okay. And within the year they gave me the feature. Though I don’t know how common that is and whether its still something they’d do now (though I’m still in touch with some editors there and I’ve been asked if I’d like to have another go at it [i dont think I ever will]).

I also don’t think I would’ve been able to get it if I wasn’t also already sort of an industry professional at that point so the circumstances might be different but I thought I’d add my experience here!

Also @ OP: congrats on your success!!!! Good on you for getting four whole assistants!!! :clap:🏼

That's interesting.

Why do you not want to get into the comic making again?
Just curious if there are things to consider.

I still make comics but I reached a point where I was able to make a solid income on a combination of book royalties, advances, patreon, and POD merch, and some other things but I also have much more freedom than I would if I were stuck with a Webtoon contract. I can work on multiple project and work at a comfortable pace.

And after their whole Crunchyroll thing I was really nervous about a potentially cut and dry animation contract with them because for the last couple years I’ve been in talks with studios and without saying too much in public here there is just an insane amount of back n forth with this stuff and so much of it is just negotiating and getting as many offers as you can and a cut n dry contract with ONE company is likely leaving a ton of money on the table. I dunno I’d be VERY interested in seeing a contract. In one of our meetings with one particular production company they asked if I wanted to learn how to showrun or just work on the show in some other capacity which is exactly the kind of nuance that I worry wouldn’t be present in a Webtoon dealing. Which honestly I just don’t know! I haven’t dealt with them on that level before! I would love to hear from anybody who has.

Honestly the fact that I’m in talks with studios is itself a testament to how much the Webtoon model just would never work for me personally. My Webtoon would NEVER be considered for animation on their end but in the rest of the world its potentially viable? Working with publishers who can more closely prioritize me in this way (vs. a big mega tech company who will mainly prioritize the giants) has been the most valuable thing in the world to my career.

Sorry for the long reply! I’ve got some feelings :slight_smile: I also think Webtoons is probably good for a ton of people! Its just not my path anymore!

Ah so you got the offer or possibility to make your comic into animation with Crunchyroll? That's nice.

Is it the same comic you had for Webtoon or a different one?
I guess that animation stuff is possible because you are under a certain publisher already right?
Not a self-published?

I hope we aren't hijacking the thread, it is still related to Webtoon and their policy xD

Don't worry, this thread was literally here to share info about comics, so I really don't care where it goes as long as people are learning and sharing :slight_smile:

@Caro This is super interesting to hear and I'm so glad you popped on this thread, especially as someone with a very different background to me. I think you bring up many points that I agree with. The condition of signing for a big company in any kind of industry is that you're kind of expected to follow what the company wants. I think a lot of people will take that because they need that opportunity and are willing to meet those conditions. Which is completely fair and sometimes the good choice. I also can see why freelancing is also beneficially if you like being hands on and having those options for yourself, especially if you're established.

Webtoons has a very specific idea/image they want to meet, as any one can see from their Originals lineup and who they take on for book deals/tv shows. they have recently been pushing film/tv/books a lot because of their new Webtoons Studios section of their company. All the recent animations and tvshows have been technically under that sub section I believe. Webtoon Studios started in late-ish 2020 I believe, and I have to vague here for NDA reasons, but they are definitely trying to expand their film and tv adaptations for their comics. Like covering all their bases kind of fore planning.

I have not seen a full film or tv contract, but in terms of what I have seen in other webtoons contracts about adaptations, it's not the worst terms ever haha. Especially if you're a break out artist/ haven't had any previous adaptations and this would be a big deal for you, it's not bad. If you're an established artist/writer though, you might find it a bit dry.

Super cool to hear you're looking into animations! That must be so exciting for you! As someone coming from an animation background, it's always exciting for me to see 2D animation adaptations happening. Congrats and I hope it works out!

Both,... I'm programmer and writer, so for drawing I have really little time,... but also my drawing is so slow, I literally need 10 hours of time to just draw one relatively simple image.

Ooooh thanks for the responses! These are all really interesting! (Also yeeess Your Letter is so good)

dang that sucks! If you want to pursue art as a serious hobby, make sure to try and assign some time during the day for "art". I found this was really helpful when I was very busy. Even just 30 mins or an hour a day, that's just "art" time. And you'll get faster with experience. So don't give up! I'm sure you'll get better!

closed Jun 14, '21