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Jul 2015

Over the years, I've found that its just better to ignore haters rather than engage in endless shit flinging with them even if you are in the right about something. Taking screen caps of some of the things they say (particularly anything that would out them as a hypocrite) should also be considered in the event they become a dedicated troll and keep showing up on every one of your videos/threads/posts just to harass you.

But you see, hate is by definition something negative and destructing. I think of it more as a blatant aggression toward the author for no reason other than being jerks, than as being anything constructive expressed in a negative manner. Perhaps we're just talking about different interpretations of the word "hate".

At any rate, I think I see your point, now. I guess you welcome any and all comments, as long as you can use them to your personal growth and to the improvement of your art and comics. Correct? If so, great. That's not me smile I deal with hate constantly (admittedly, not around my comics, so far, except for that one incident I mentioned above), so the less, the better.

I think I have gotten lucky that I only received constructive feedback, though some people said I should stop drawing anime. But those people think all cartoons are animes so anyway. If it isn't constructive than I should ignore it. Even so who cares if your character has two different color eyes. I have one of those characters too, and so what? It can be something that makes your character recognizable.

David Bowei must be the king of trope then ! (will someone get this one, if not this is goin' to be a pretty random comment)

"And when I get excited
My little China Girl says
Oh baby just you shut your mouth
She says... sh-sh-shhh"

He just said something like "different coloured eyes trope trope tropes" and you call it "hate"?
I think you calling that person a poor bastard is more violent that his comment.
It sounds more like a bad joke that really "hate", it may be a bit childish but it's not really mean.
If someone say "This is shit ! you should kill yourself or stop drawing forever!" this would be a hate comment for sure (I see tones of comment like that on youtube every day).
I think you should learn to be cooler with comment that are not compliments, even if it's not said in a very nice way, as long as they don't insult you.

The first thing I thought when I saw the eyes of your character was "Ahah, does he see in 3D ?" and I almost posted a comment under the episode, because yeah, I thought it was funny for you to choose these colors and it wouldn't have been judgmental or hateful in ANY way.
But I came back to the forum thread first and boy I'm glad I didn't post anything =D

Serious question though : if I had posted this comment, would you have considered it mean or hateful ?

As @blop said, aren't you being a bit hasty ? If you make your work public, you have to be ready to accept criticism and friendly banter and I think the best way to deal with it is to answer in a friendly way.
You could even win that person over =)
If you delete every negative comments, it feels like you're not comfortable with your work and take it too personnally... Your readers might feel like they have to walk on eggshells with you and you might not get any honest feedback... So be the better man and don't delete them ! (except if they're the "go die !" kind)
Who knows, your readers might even defend your work for you !

Well I am a bit blunt/harsh anyway, poor bastard where I come is slang for sad kid or something like that.
In the end I just deleted it anyway, either way I don't want people calling it trope, because I don't think you can call it that after 7 pages?
well idk I deleted it.

Phew ! Good then ! =D
Hard to tell how people mean what they say when it's just text, you could have felt like I was making fun of you or something =)

Well it's your comic so you can delete any comment if you feel like it but I think it's not really a good attitude to delete a comment just because you don't like the critic, as long as it's not insulting. And in my opinion you shouldn't calling that type of comments "hate comments".

(And by the way, a trope is not a bad thing, it's good for a story to have some, it's having too many that is a bad thing. Actually many of my favorite comics/series have famous tropes.)

A good way to deal with hate comments is to realize that most of those haters have nothing better to do with their lives than to complain on internet message boards. But seriously, you cant really delete hate comments from existence, its just not possible. If those comments get ya down, just remember: If you dont have any haters, it means youre not doing anything cool. Btw, your work is pretty cool. I like it alot.

12 days later

I appreciated for comment that explain why they like my comic and why they dislike. The only comment that I don't want to see is something like this "cool! I like your comic" or "this comic is suck!". I feel that it non-seance comment, I prefer something like "I like your comic. The background design is creative and each character design doesn't have similar face...." or "your comic is suck. each panel that the character appear he/she always has different face/appearance, difficult to recognize....". This type of comment would make me understand why I have low subscribe, so I can improve the quality of my comic.

Seeing the responses and comments makes me wonder how people feel in general about comments? Personally if someone hasn't stated they are looking for critiques I just heart it and move on or add a comment about something I like. When people are looking for critiques I tend to ask questions that hopefully lead the person to see the same thing/problems I see- like 'is character A suppose to be behind or in front of character B?' Or 'Is this character the main character X or a new character?' Depending on their response I might go into detail or leave it alone.
I know people can be sensitive about their art and it's easy to discourage yourself without others 'helping' ^^'

I didn't see the comment in question but are different colored eyes that common that they have become a thing? And if so- does it really matter? There are still so many interesting ways that the story could develop.
But hey that's just my .02$

I'm just glad to have any type of comment on mine.
At least I can gauge if people are looking at my stuff.

I love comments. Likes are nice too, but they're a passive thing. There's no way for me to respond to them. I don't even know why someone liked a page. Did they enjoy the colours? Did they like the character-designs? Did they think my characters said something funny? I have no idea.

Comments are a way to have a conversation with my readers, and I like that. It helps me understand why people like things, what elements of my story are confusing to them and need to be cleared up, what things didn't come across the way I intended them to, etc., etc.

I feel the same and glad to know I'm not the only one. Heheh now for those comments to come smile -crosses fingers-

I personally really like getting comments! And I see constructive criticism as a way to help someone improve. I haven't received that much of it really, but one very helpful comment I got on my comic was that the font size was really small and made it hard to read on mobile. So I made it bigger, and that was better for everyone smile

But that's a very small thing to criticise though (I wouldn't even call it a critique, more of a request/advice). I think for many it's harder to get criticised for things like character design, story, plot, how your drawings could improve, etc. Some can get very defensive about it, and that's why I'm hesitant about leaving that kind of critique on people's work unless they've asked for it. I think people forget that you don't have to listen to all critique - you can just read it, think about it, and then not make any changes whatsoever if you don't agree with it.

I think your way of doing it - asking questions - is a very smart way to give critique though, because you make the creator take a better look at their own work. If I as a creator know in my head that character A is supposed to be in front of character B, I might take it for granted that others understand and see this too. But my drawings might not make it clear enough, and readers can't read my mind stuck_out_tongue So yeah, I think critiquing through questions is a good method.

I think differently coloured eyes counts as a trope, but then again practically everything is a trope :/ And tropes aren't necessarily bad, they're just story tools, and the job is to handle them right.

The comment that purrlpankras received was weird though:
"different coloured eyes trope trope tropes"
That's not really...helpful? I don't know, to me that's bizarre at best, and though maybe hate is a strong word, I find it hard to believe that the one who posted it meant anything positive or helpful with it, because it's just weird. But it could be that they were trying to be funny and didn't mean any harm. I honestly don't know :/ Again, just pointing out that something is a trope is like pointing out that your story has a plot and characters without adding any further thoughts on it.

Before giving someone a bunch of constructive criticism, I always, always ask "Would you mind if I gave you a critique?". Some people are drawing just for the fun of drawing, and don't want to improve beyond the level they're already at - and they shouldn't have to put up with unsolicited critique of their work. Others want a critique, but might be hesitant about asking for one.

Asking first allows the creators to decline or accept, and nobody has to get upset.

@AnnaLandin Yeah, I think that's the right way to go about it. Not everyone is at a point where they're ready to take criticism very well because the thing they need most is to just stay motivated through positive feedback, and like you say, some draw just for fun and don't want to worry about others "pushing" them to improve their skills when they're just fine with where they're at.

And even for people who normally like to receive critique; there might be days when you're not in the mood for an "overhaul" and then it's nice that you're given the opportunity to say "not today - but maybe tomorrow".

Woo lucky I found this thread. I've had experience with rude comments, but overall I thought they were kind of funny because they were commenting on aspects of my work I feel very secure about in general.

But today someone commented on my skills as a storyteller in a malicious manner (at least that's how I perceived it) and I'm quite sure I overreacted. I really tried to be kind, but there's no denying the aggressive undertone in my replies (this happened on webtoon).

I think next time I'll just keep and asking WHY they feel they way they do about my work, try and get to the root of the problem and maybe I'll learn more from it. Hope this helps somebody out there who has to deal with this kind of stuff a lot sunny