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Jul 2015

The first thing I thought when I saw the eyes of your character was "Ahah, does he see in 3D ?" and I almost posted a comment under the episode, because yeah, I thought it was funny for you to choose these colors and it wouldn't have been judgmental or hateful in ANY way.
But I came back to the forum thread first and boy I'm glad I didn't post anything =D

Serious question though : if I had posted this comment, would you have considered it mean or hateful ?

As @blop said, aren't you being a bit hasty ? If you make your work public, you have to be ready to accept criticism and friendly banter and I think the best way to deal with it is to answer in a friendly way.
You could even win that person over =)
If you delete every negative comments, it feels like you're not comfortable with your work and take it too personnally... Your readers might feel like they have to walk on eggshells with you and you might not get any honest feedback... So be the better man and don't delete them ! (except if they're the "go die !" kind)
Who knows, your readers might even defend your work for you !

Well I am a bit blunt/harsh anyway, poor bastard where I come is slang for sad kid or something like that.
In the end I just deleted it anyway, either way I don't want people calling it trope, because I don't think you can call it that after 7 pages?
well idk I deleted it.

Phew ! Good then ! =D
Hard to tell how people mean what they say when it's just text, you could have felt like I was making fun of you or something =)

Well it's your comic so you can delete any comment if you feel like it but I think it's not really a good attitude to delete a comment just because you don't like the critic, as long as it's not insulting. And in my opinion you shouldn't calling that type of comments "hate comments".

(And by the way, a trope is not a bad thing, it's good for a story to have some, it's having too many that is a bad thing. Actually many of my favorite comics/series have famous tropes.)

A good way to deal with hate comments is to realize that most of those haters have nothing better to do with their lives than to complain on internet message boards. But seriously, you cant really delete hate comments from existence, its just not possible. If those comments get ya down, just remember: If you dont have any haters, it means youre not doing anything cool. Btw, your work is pretty cool. I like it alot.

12 days later

I appreciated for comment that explain why they like my comic and why they dislike. The only comment that I don't want to see is something like this "cool! I like your comic" or "this comic is suck!". I feel that it non-seance comment, I prefer something like "I like your comic. The background design is creative and each character design doesn't have similar face...." or "your comic is suck. each panel that the character appear he/she always has different face/appearance, difficult to recognize....". This type of comment would make me understand why I have low subscribe, so I can improve the quality of my comic.

Seeing the responses and comments makes me wonder how people feel in general about comments? Personally if someone hasn't stated they are looking for critiques I just heart it and move on or add a comment about something I like. When people are looking for critiques I tend to ask questions that hopefully lead the person to see the same thing/problems I see- like 'is character A suppose to be behind or in front of character B?' Or 'Is this character the main character X or a new character?' Depending on their response I might go into detail or leave it alone.
I know people can be sensitive about their art and it's easy to discourage yourself without others 'helping' ^^'

I didn't see the comment in question but are different colored eyes that common that they have become a thing? And if so- does it really matter? There are still so many interesting ways that the story could develop.
But hey that's just my .02$

I'm just glad to have any type of comment on mine.
At least I can gauge if people are looking at my stuff.

I love comments. Likes are nice too, but they're a passive thing. There's no way for me to respond to them. I don't even know why someone liked a page. Did they enjoy the colours? Did they like the character-designs? Did they think my characters said something funny? I have no idea.

Comments are a way to have a conversation with my readers, and I like that. It helps me understand why people like things, what elements of my story are confusing to them and need to be cleared up, what things didn't come across the way I intended them to, etc., etc.

I feel the same and glad to know I'm not the only one. Heheh now for those comments to come smile -crosses fingers-

I personally really like getting comments! And I see constructive criticism as a way to help someone improve. I haven't received that much of it really, but one very helpful comment I got on my comic was that the font size was really small and made it hard to read on mobile. So I made it bigger, and that was better for everyone smile

But that's a very small thing to criticise though (I wouldn't even call it a critique, more of a request/advice). I think for many it's harder to get criticised for things like character design, story, plot, how your drawings could improve, etc. Some can get very defensive about it, and that's why I'm hesitant about leaving that kind of critique on people's work unless they've asked for it. I think people forget that you don't have to listen to all critique - you can just read it, think about it, and then not make any changes whatsoever if you don't agree with it.

I think your way of doing it - asking questions - is a very smart way to give critique though, because you make the creator take a better look at their own work. If I as a creator know in my head that character A is supposed to be in front of character B, I might take it for granted that others understand and see this too. But my drawings might not make it clear enough, and readers can't read my mind stuck_out_tongue So yeah, I think critiquing through questions is a good method.

I think differently coloured eyes counts as a trope, but then again practically everything is a trope :/ And tropes aren't necessarily bad, they're just story tools, and the job is to handle them right.

The comment that purrlpankras received was weird though:
"different coloured eyes trope trope tropes"
That's not really...helpful? I don't know, to me that's bizarre at best, and though maybe hate is a strong word, I find it hard to believe that the one who posted it meant anything positive or helpful with it, because it's just weird. But it could be that they were trying to be funny and didn't mean any harm. I honestly don't know :/ Again, just pointing out that something is a trope is like pointing out that your story has a plot and characters without adding any further thoughts on it.

Before giving someone a bunch of constructive criticism, I always, always ask "Would you mind if I gave you a critique?". Some people are drawing just for the fun of drawing, and don't want to improve beyond the level they're already at - and they shouldn't have to put up with unsolicited critique of their work. Others want a critique, but might be hesitant about asking for one.

Asking first allows the creators to decline or accept, and nobody has to get upset.

@AnnaLandin Yeah, I think that's the right way to go about it. Not everyone is at a point where they're ready to take criticism very well because the thing they need most is to just stay motivated through positive feedback, and like you say, some draw just for fun and don't want to worry about others "pushing" them to improve their skills when they're just fine with where they're at.

And even for people who normally like to receive critique; there might be days when you're not in the mood for an "overhaul" and then it's nice that you're given the opportunity to say "not today - but maybe tomorrow".

Woo lucky I found this thread. I've had experience with rude comments, but overall I thought they were kind of funny because they were commenting on aspects of my work I feel very secure about in general.

But today someone commented on my skills as a storyteller in a malicious manner (at least that's how I perceived it) and I'm quite sure I overreacted. I really tried to be kind, but there's no denying the aggressive undertone in my replies (this happened on webtoon).

I think next time I'll just keep and asking WHY they feel they way they do about my work, try and get to the root of the problem and maybe I'll learn more from it. Hope this helps somebody out there who has to deal with this kind of stuff a lot sunny

If you ask me hate mail ain't mail, but I'm a no nonsense type of guy and that mgith not be you.

I'd say turn it into a game, pick who you deem worthy to joke with, I'm a redditor so this is the sort of thing you grow numb to quickly.

4 months later

Hey guys. I'm new to the forums here and I was having trouble handling how I personally interpret comments on my own comment. I just jumped onto this thread after seraching "comments" to see what other creators thought. I did find it surprising that a lot of the creators here didn't agree with this creators feelings about the comment left on her comic. I get that the comment wasn't really "hate-filled" or trolling. But I can definitely understand how comments that a creator finds to be... I don't know the best way to describe it, like "nit-picky" or something like that. Like someone having a problem with the way a character's hat looks and how the hat doesn't make sense. For me, when starting getting comments like that (which seems to be ALL of the comments I get now) at first I found it strange and just ignored it. Whatever. Everyone can enjoy/read/interpret the comic in anyway they wish. I don't have (or want) control over that. But down the line to where I am now, it felt like my readers were missing the point. They were only looking at dumb details, not the overall idea of the comic. It's gotten to the point where I'm left wondering if anyone is enjoying the comic at all and if I should even keep going. What's the point if no one is enjoying it? Am I really just doing something wrong? I don't think about all the little details of my stories lining up perfectly and logically. Is that wrong of me?

For example, in case you're curious, in my comic there are a bunch of characters that are Food. Walking, talking food in side a human stomach. I would think that in a story where food is somehow sentient and has arms and legs and eyeballs, that other superfluous details, like how someone could eat food (or garbage - which the food uses to make structures) whole? Is that really the part that is confusing? Not the walking, talking food? Food can have mouths and talk, but everything else is nonsense?

I don't know. It's been frustrating. Especially since I can slowly see my readership start to decline. I was hoping that some of the creators here might have similar experiences, but maybe it's just me and my comic. I know I should probably just ignore it and for the most part I have. I never respond to comments now, good or otherwise. I just find if hard to tell sometimes whether a commenter is just trying to be funny and engage other commenters or whether they really have a problem with the comic as a whole.

Anyway, I'm sorry about the rant. I don't even know if this comment will be seen on an old thread. Let me know if you have any thoughts. I don't really know how this forum section works. Thanks guys.

When it comes to comments, there are a few that will be nit-picky, just because that's the way they are. The suspension of disbelief only goes so far with them. If a comment is ridiculous, say a commenter doesn't get the point, it's best not to answer them or answer in a clever way.

Like if someone did say "Why is the food still whole inside the stomach?"
Since that's a silly comment and an argument won't go anywhere, answer with something out of left field.
Like "I don't know. Why do YOU think it is?"
Or "Magic!!!"
Or "Yeah. That IS odd."
There are plenty of ways to get around a silly comment that may or may not make any sense.

Or simply ignore it. That works too.

Good advice. Thanks. I end up doing a lot of ignoring (or attempting to ignore). Which I don't feel good about, to be honest. I love that I get comments at all. It's nice to have any kind of response. But I just didn't want to argue with anyone and come off looking like a jerk and potentially lose readers. I should definitely start coming with good ways to engage with readers in a funny or "left field" type of way as you've suggested.

Mostly just try to ignore them, for me it's usually easy to tell the difference between hate and criticism. Particularly it's common on youtube where you will meet some of the rudest most immature people. If it does start to pile up, then it's time to start deleting or hiding those comments because it makes your project look like an unfriendly place.