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Sep 2017

hasnt it been agreed for a long time that all stories are just the same 6 stories, or something?

that said, 'remix culture' has taken a rise in recent decades - you got fanfic, you got DJs, you got parodies and remakes, just about everywhere. you got stuff like wicked (which is a musical based on a book inspired by a film based on a book) and the shadowhunters (the tv reboot of a movie series based on a book series which was an edited version of harry potter fanfiction and lifted from several other writers) - both are very good; popular, and enjoyable.

maybe too much weight is placed on originality. or maybe people are just misinterpreting originality - its not about fathoming an idea from the void that has no similarities to anything ever. i think its about bringing something new to the table. thats why things like community and homestuck do so well - they take everything that already exists, and flip it on its head one way or another.

i think, if anything, as storytelling becomes more accessible through the availability of technology and sites like tapas, were gonna see a lot more very original stuff, because were opening the gates to the narratives and perspectives previously ignored (see: why aboriginal australian art is the most exciting thing to hit contemporary art since picasso)

I'm always paranoid that any ideas I come up with have been subconsciously taken from something that I've read or watched but in the end I can't let that stop me, even if what you make does turn out to be a rehash of something it's still fine since you put your own spin and perspective on it. Now what can get on my nerves are clichés but that's a different discussion for another day.

I feel like there will always be someone with a similar style/idea/story.
Someone found an image on a Russian website once that was pretty much IDENTICAL to one of my characters and basically accused me of copying it. So even though I had never seen it I still got flak for not being original because someone in ANOTHER COUNTRY had the same idea I did.
Since then I realized there's no point in stressing about being original, there are a lot of other humans out there having similar thoughts, just believe in what you do.

I think we must've hit some sort of critical mass when it comes to entertainment media. Like, fantasy writers used to come from different traditions (the Arthurian cycle, the pulp trade, etcetera) but nowadays people in the genre all have the same books and movies in common.

im not sure if i know what you mean? dyou mean the same books and movies which inspired them, which are all modern?

i mean thats kiiiiiinda been the case for a longass time bc we have The Canon, and everyones gotta read and take notes on The Canon. we have an informal pop culture canon, fantasy canon, scifi canon, etc, and prolly a significantly more formal film canon.

so like how everyone since shakespeare was in some way responding to shakespeare - directly or not - everyone (in fantasy) these days is responding to lord of the rings, directly or not.

That's what I mean. Not only do we have the canon, but we also have many, many contemporary works that are clearly riffing on the canon and then each other. If the previous pattern was of living writers responding to dead writers, now it's living writers having the conversation with each other and everybody else.

ngl that sure as hell sounds more exciting to me

I think as long as you write and draw something your way, it's original.
There might be similar ideas already out there and you might be (aware or unaware) inspired by other's work. But as long as you come with your own idea or interpretation it's original and unique.
I mean your brain with your exact thoughts, feelings, interests, ideas and experiences does not exist a second time. Even with certain inspiration, your work and ideas can only executed by yourself and no one else :slight_smile:

Originality?

Pfft.

I'm sure multiple people have written everything I'm writing. I've just never seen it. And when I'll do I'll utter a brief "Oh, look at that," and keep writing.

There definitely isn't anything new anyone can really do that's considered original (not even "original" species) but I'll like any genre or subject matter that interests me, even if its done a million times

Originality is honestly overrated.

You can make the most original, unheard of idea under the sun-- but will anyone enjoy it? At the end of the day, that's more important. If you go so far out of your way to tell a story literally no-one's thought of before, chances are high that you're probably removing most, if not all human elements from it. And at that point, I doubt anyone's going to connect with it.

But like others mentioned, everyone tells a story in their own unique way. You could give the same prompt to ten different people and get ten different stories, and most every story out there can be boiled down to a shared handful of ideas.

This is frankly fascinating to see everyone's vision and definitions of "Original."

I'm fairly certain if something was 100% original, humanity would be afraid of it and probably want to destroy it.

We like things that are familiar. If we can relate to it, we feel at ease. We like adventures but within the scope of the human condition. Anything too far gone might feel distant like a psychedelic experience, and potentially scary.

But yeah, everyone's got their own flavor of experiences to make the old stories we like interesting again. Don't beat yourself up over what's original or not. Humans just like taking innovation in baby steps. Its just how we roll.

Original means it's distinct enough to be recognized as it's own independent piece of work even if it borrows from pre existing genres or tropes. So unless you're flat out stealing something your work is technically original in it's creation.

Then again we had a court declare this as an original IP so ummm...

You can try your hardest to make your work avant-garde but at the end of the day, readers will tend to be drawn to things they find "familiar". Familiar aspects helps create genres and sub-genres.

However, there are some issues with some genres. Like when it comes to "monster collecting" stories. Because Pokemon is so popular, any other work that tries to be part of the same genre is seen as a ripoff.

I guess that is something you need to think about. Being inspired by another work and creating your own but having it be different enough that it will not be seen as a ripoff.

Inspiration comes from everything and everyone, but we all are different, it's this the cause that I believe we all can be original in a certain way.

Sure, I don't think there's any such thing as totally "original." No man is an island, so whether its other media or personal experiences, everyone is influenced by something. And that's not a bad thing. It's how we get genres.

I think what makes it stale vs. original depends on your intention. If you're purposely trying to imitate something, it will show, but if you're saying something from the heart that you care about, that will show too. I agree with @nobebocafe what matters is your voice.

Yep, with out that creative spark from other creators my comics/stories would have never been wrtitten