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Aug 2022

Let's say that you have created the ultimate powerful character to be your protagonist or to help them along their journey. A character who is a functionally a god, invulnerable to all attacks, with a power to fit any occasion. They have super strength and super speed. Perhaps they can even fly, or have magical powers that can warp reality. There can be any number of reasons why this character has appeared in your story, but what is important for this guide is the problem this character creates upon their entrance onto the scene:

As soon as they show up, any narrative tension disappears. There is literally nothing that can even inconvenience this character in a meaningful way.

The exemplar of this type of character is Superman. Notably, Superman did not start out this way - when he first appeared in the 1930s his powers were far more limited. He could leap tall buildings in a single bound, not fly over them. However, as the years went on, more and more powers were added to his character, until he reached the point where he lives in a "world of cardboard."

This represents a major storytelling problem. For a story to have narrative tension, what Robert McKee calls "the forces of antagonism" must be at least equal to, if not greater than, the ability of the protagonist to overcome them. On its face, a Superman-type character short circuits this. However, this is not a problem without solutions, and a character with this level of power can even become one of the more compelling characters in your story.

So, how do we do this? How do we ensure narrative tension and a compelling character when the character in question is functionally a god? There are a few ways we can go about this, all of which have both advantages and disadvantages:

  1. Make the forces of antagonism greater than the character. This can mean forcing the character to face an antagonist who is equal to or greater in power (a massive natural disaster, or a supervillain with even more godlike power). The benefit is that there is narrative tension. The bad news is that this can strain suspension of disbelief in the reader, particularly if it undergoes repeated use. There's only so many times that a character can save the entire world and have the narrative be credible.

  2. Reduce the character's powers for the story. Superman has his kryptonite, in Re:Apotheosis Captain Infinite has his Ultratonium, and just about any Western superhero has some weakness that short circuits their powers. This restores narrative tension without the character having to face off against some potentially world-ending threat, but it also suffers from repeated use. A character with godlike powers becomes laughable once it starts to feel like everybody and their grandmother in-universe is packing kryptonite.

  3. Make their powers irrelevant to the problem to be solved. The character may have all the superpowers, but the forces of antagonism can't be conquered using them, leaving the character to find another way. This is one of the better mechanisms for dealing with this problem, but it is also one of the hardest to use. If you're not careful using this technique, you can accidentally cut the character out of narrative, turning them into a spectator in the story.

  4. Force them to choose. They can use their powers to save one person or another, but not both. This variant of the "trolley problem" (you can save five people from being killed by a runaway trolley, but only by diverting it so that it kills one person) is one of the best techniques to use, as it forces the character to make a difficult choice with meaningful consequences, causing character growth along the way. What is important is to limit the use of "finding a third option" - while this can make for an appealing ending, it undercuts the impact of the choice, and repeated use makes any future trolley problem impossible for the reader to take seriously.

  5. Turn the conflict inward. Have the main antagonist that the character must face not some external force, but an internal one. This makes for some of the most rewarding and compelling character development (in Re:Apotheosis, for example, Captain Infinite is an expy of Superman where time has been allowed to pass in his story, with the result that his life has been hollowed out as his powers grow and the people he cares about die off - his entire character arc is about trying to connect with other people and regain the life that time and power creep has taken away from him). If your character has sworn off using their powers because they once accidentally killed somebody, making the decision to use them again becomes compelling drama.

All of these are workable solutions to the problem of regaining narrative tension, but what should be noted is that in any series, repeated use will always cause diminishing returns. The first time a character has to "find themself" is compelling - the fourth time strains credibility. The first trolley problem is a gut-wrenching dilemma - the tenth will have become a formula that the reader will shrug off.

But, all of this having been said, the most important key to making a super-powered character compelling is and remains making them a fully developed and realized character in the first place. They should have agency and desires, and work towards those desires. Their actions should have consequences that they must face. They should have internal struggles between competing goals. They should, at their core, be recognizably human.

And that's really all there is to it...

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How is Superman in the modern comics? Because I've been catching myself up (I started at the 30's and I'm currently at the 80's) and so far I have a difficult time understanding why people find him boring. I remember hearing they took the kryptonite weakness away, but still, Superman & Lois and the animated Superman movies have been doing really well.

Also just gonna say this since I know I'm going to dislike the New 52 once I get there and the new comics have made me a bit nervous; the appeal of Superman for me has always been just seeing him be a good boi and being a good example overall. As someone who reads a lot of comic books, Superman is this weird paradox where you read his stories when you wanna take a break from constant deconstructions. Basically "return to simplicity". It's a little difficult for me to get into "Dark Knight Returns" or "Zach Snyder" or "Injustice" and even the Boys because I'm like "I just want my blue cardboard bebe boiscout back pleeeeze ;-;".

I get him being OP (even in the 80's he's a little too much), I really do, but like... another cool thing about the comics is seeing him use his wits to solve a problem. In a weird way, his comics sorta remind me of Star Trek. Imo his best stories are the small scale ones where he's using his powers to stop robbers and not some intergalactic threat. It's totally unfair and the robbers have no chance, but it's so cool seeing a massive superhero even bothering with street-level threats. It adds to the charm.

Don't really know, I'm afraid - I'm not a big comic book reader. I mainly know him from the Christopher Reeve movies (which came out when I was a kid) some old cartoons, reading a wiki entry, Superdickery.com (which is hilarious, by the way), and what I've heard from online commentators.

So, it's tempting to snark that right now he's "badly written," but I have ZERO ability to back that up. At this point, you know far more about the character than I do.

(That said, I stand by Captain Infinite 100%.)

Oh, I thought the Christopher Reeve movies were sweet lmao. People always laugh at how corny they were, but when I watched it I thought it was beautiful for how innocent they were (the Lois Lane poem scene gets so much flack). 3's up there with 2 and 1 solely for the scene where not-Lex Luthor tells Richord Prior to kill Superman. I just love how Richard nervously looks back and responds with ".... But that's Superman....". That scene was so heartbreaking. It's like asking a kid to put his dog down. It's even tragic to hear it from a grown man.

But that's a bit off-topic, I will say that in this day and age of deconstructing superheroes, especially if you don't know much about Superman, it's best to understand the material as much as possible because there's a LOT of comic issues that answers problems the general public tend to ask (specifically cynical ones).

I wanted one of my comics to be a deconstruction with a Superman-proxy, but I decided "Nah... I think I'm better off making him something else" when I was constantly disproven about the character in the comics. You'll also get the urge of wanting to experiment with some of the lore you're given. I was shocked that the Red Giant ended up being a weird combination of the Creeper, the Hawk, and Punch lmao. He was originally supposed to be Superman! How did I get here lmao?!? That was the moment where I decided that he would be the one to not be a deconstruction but more of a celebration.

But with that being said, I do recommend checking at least All-Star Superman out (the comic) or John Byrne's comic or his other Post-Crisis stories. It's best to keep superhero fans on their toes since they read a bunch of the material and have seen every deconstruction in the book so far (DC's Ultraman, Homelander, Injustice Superman, Omni-Man, Hyperion, Sentry, Warren Ellis's Superman, Mark Millar's cancelled Jupiter series on Netflix, that Superman from that Comedy Central series). I'm actually shocked that even Garth Ennis, someone who famously hates superheroes, is a huge Superman fan. He's the dude that made Homelander.

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3, 4 and 5 are my favorites.

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Recently Superman faced a bigger challenge than anything before. He became a father and that run is amazing, because it focuses on him teaching life lessons to his son as he deals with superhero incidents.

Right at the moment Superman left Earth and is trapped on another planet with reduced powers fighting against a tyrant to save slaves from him. And his now-young adult son (He aged fast because of time travel) is the current active Superman on Earth. Many complain about it because he came out as bisexual.

And at the same time he is dead, because comics are confusing. Superman is alive on Action Comics, but he is dead during the newest event Dark Crisis.

As somebody with a really powerful protagonist, I feel this deeply. :sweat_02:

Errant being a reboot of an older comic from about 9 years earlier, I knew there was a common bit of criticism I needed to address in this version that plagued the old comic: Rekki was trivialising the antagonists, and a lot of the plot tension was created by the antagonist not being where she was, which was boring because the antagonists spent all their time running away from her. While she's nowhere near Superman levels, or even the level of an average Jojo character, she's powerful enough that there need to be reasons why she can't just punch her way out of every problem.

So I made an antagonist character who allows me to hit points 1, 3 and 5.

1: He's too powerful for her to just fight 'cause he has this really powerful magic sword. Sure, Rekki's really strong, but this guy can crush a demon's head with magic at a range of several feet without lifting a finger. Yikes!

3: She's really good at being really strong and hitting monsters with a big sword... a power set with actually very limited problem-solving applications (there's a reason the creator comments have referenced the phrase "when all you have is a hammer" at least three times. Her sword is even called "Thor's Chisel", because Rekki is a hammer.) She can't solve a political problem she's entangled in with "brutal sword-based regicide" for all sorts of reasons that include "she's just not the kind of person who can murder someone she's known her whole life in cold blood even for a good cause." Honestly point 3 comes up a lot, even when the conflict is a demon fight, because Rekki's a short-range brawler who keeps getting stumped by monsters that won't let her get in close or she can't pierce the hide of. It's becoming increasingly apparent that her isolation is her real problem.

5: Rekki is dominated by Urien not simply because he's powerful, but because he knows how to use her insecurity against her. She's trapped in her role supporting him to protect people she cares about, and because she's just kept so busy protecting a whole city she feels responsible for. She's a person who takes on way too much responsibility to prove her worthiness and it makes her kind of easy to manipulate.

Ultimately, I feel a lot happier with this version of the character. I wanted her to be really strong because it's kind of cool having this short-arsed lady running around being a hot-headed shounen manga hero with a huge sword being a knight of the Round Table and stuff, and allows for a lot of fun spectacle to draw, but I wanted to balance that with a vulnerability and just a "normal-ness" that makes her relatable; she has a crappy boss, the guy she had a teen crush on turned out to be a dirtbag, she has too many responsibilities and feels burned out and she's got this looming regret of a friendship she ruined. So even though I do want readers to enjoy her being cool from time to time, I want them most of the time to kind of pity her and want her to sort her life out. :sweat_02:

This is related to why I think time travel can be a story killer. The power to go back in time and change what happened makes the owner of that power too strong. Something went wrong? Rewind! Eraser Man to the rescue.

The reason why I like Superman as a character is because he's become more of a icon then he is a superhero, what humanity strives to be rather what we are. I think the best stories about Superman center around the "man" more than the "Super". I think solutions to the Superman Dilemma could be seen in stories like All-Star Superman, Kingdom Come, Superman Annual 11 or even Superman: Red Sun (Although the Evil Superman Trope has been done to death at this point). I think a solution that I've seen in some of these stories take is having an internal conflict rather than an external one such as Superman's hopes and desires or stories that use his compassion against him or having his kindness conflict with a world that has become cynical and jaded. Superman's best foes challenge his beliefs and his humanity. Even concepts like death could put the man of steel in a vulnerable position where he has to question himself.

Now that I think about it, I might be facing the psychological equivalent of the Superman dilemma1 XD

My MC Saku isn't particularly overpowered physically, but my story is a slice of life/drama without much in the way of physical threats, with most of the challenges being emotional/relational.

And Saku is kind of overpowered in that department, mostly because there's nothing that can be used as leverage against him - he's got no job where he has to avoid rocking the boat wrt his boss and/or coworkers to keep his livelihood, he's got no children and feels no responsibility towards the rest of his family, and his friends are all new people he meets during the course of the story, so he has no problems being 100% upfront with them from the get-go -- and cutting off anyone who refuses to cooperate and communicate with him.

Basically, he can solve all his problems way too easily because there are no consequences if he fails; there's nothing stopping him from just going 'screw this, I'm outta here'. He'd feel kind of bad about it - he's still human, after all - but the point still stands that there's nothing stopping him from taking the most optimal course of action because he doesn't have the things tying us down that most of us with jobs, families etc have to deal with.

Sometimes I say that 'bitwam is unapologetic wish fulfilment', and this is pretty much what I mean :stuck_out_tongue: But I guess power fantasy stories still need narrative tension. This might just be the answer I was looking for, if I could figure out the psychological counterparts of your 5 methods of preserving narrative tension :thinking:

The phrase "the human heart in conflict with itself" comes immediately to mind...

It's quite compelling in terms of narrative when a character has two deep desires which are mutually exclusive, forcing them to choose one or the other (love vs. duty, etc.).

And that's kind of what's causing my 'psychological Superman dilemma'; my character had already thought through his priorities and knows what he'll choose on principle (freedom > love > duty etc). Again, it's not that he won't feel bad about choosing (for instance) freedom over the love that he really did want, but his life philosophy is part of who he is as a character and based on that, the audience already knows what decision he will make XD

So what is the thing/person/incident that will upend these priorities? :smiley:

That's the thing; I have absolutely no idea :stuck_out_tongue: Perhaps figuring this out is what I need to solve this dilemma. I'm not demanding a solution immediately - it's already helpful that I know where to look :]

Red Sun Superman isn't "evil Superman".

He is a Superman with a different set of values and a different understanding on how to apply them. His judgement gets impaired by his growth, but he isn't all and out evil. There are other better examples.

@Kuma I don't know what's happening with Dark Crisis, but I do know about the father run and the Oz plotline.... I did sorta check out tho when I heard Brian Michael Bendis getting his hands on Superman. I was like "... yeaaaaaaah... Imma just... wait until another writer comes in or.... something....". I remember the accelerating aging bit being the point where I was like "And I'm outta here".

@esquarecomics Man of Steel (the comics not the... movie), Batman: Death in the Family (He's in that one shockingly and he's used in an interesting way), John Byrne's Superman, and World of Kyrpton are my favorites. That and the one where Superman and Wonder Woman meet for the first time (the ending's funny). If I had to pick a favorite, it would be a tie between Superman/Shazam: First Thunder and the Swamp-Thing issue where Swamp tries to kill Lex. Superman/Shazam because Shazam's also one of my favorite DC characters and it's so interesting seeing Superman's reaction to the fact that the Wizard picked a child to be basically an OP version of him and Swamp-Thing trying to kill Lex because it's so funny seeing Superman hop back and forth to his Clark Kent identity and hearing people take him for granted. Also interesting interactions between Swamp-Thing, the literal embodiment of Earth, him to check Superman on why he even bothers, only for him to fail. Yeah it's a small story, but at the end of the day, you can't ignore the fact that an elemental wants Lex dead. World of Metropolis is another good one where we see the lives of the people in Metropolis.

Bendis did a mess and then peaced out.

He aged up Jon, he made Superman reveal his identity to the public, he re-introduced Conner Kent in a slightly confusing way.

Currently Superman Sr. is fighting Mongul alongside a new version of "The Authority" while Superman Jr. is handling matters on Earth, facing against Gamorra, which is also a concept from "The Authority". (Bizarre I know)

I actually do like the idea of Superman handling bigger threats while his son handles Earth threats. Ngl am excited to find out what Mongul is all about. Apparently he's just as strong as Darkseid? What the heck is that all about.

Mongul is a classic Superman villain, who isn't on Darkseid's weight class (Nobody is really)

He is a alien warlord with basic powerhouse powers and usually owns a big-ass battle station called War World. He isn't the most interesting of villains. Superman is taking so long because I think he is depowered in the planet he is fighting

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