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Aug 2019

that was my fault. I did last months thread on posting your latest update and i should have just handed it off to one person but i left it open for anyone to take up the mantel and several people did . we have to consider time frame here after all the months end at different times in different places .

that was a stupid one, so Rodimus13 (the wife of the duo) actually was the first to make the thread for august, then someone made one after her, the mods did not shut down the newer one.... they shut down hers... made no sense at all

Tapas: Let's purge the single novel sharing joke thread that people seemed to genuinely like because it's an opposite counter part to a comic joke thread that didn't include novels. Can't have similar topics choking up the threads, now can we?

Also Tapas:

yeah, i rather have the joke threads than have someone necro all those, those threads are so common and kinda cookie cutter that the unique ones get people that dont even bother doing the unique thing

I see you complaining all the time about Tapas and the forums. Have to honestly ask, why do you still visit here? Seems like you aren't really enjoying it so I don't understand why you would continue to come to a place that causes annoyance for you.

This probably isn't aimed at me... But it frequently applies.

You can be a part of something that you're not 100% behind because you hope for change...and things, like sites and forums, will never change inside a digital echo chamber.

There HAS to be voices of discontent in imperfect systems.

there is a huge difference of constructive criticism and direct hostility.

The difference is that constructive criticism has a proposal to improvement and/or asking for the reason a thing is done a certain way while hostility is just plain complaining without adding anything to help.

I think @BobbyjoeXforgotensb is aiming for the former. Disagreements are not a bad thing, but how these are handled makes a huge difference on society`s problem solving skills.

imagine if countries or society as a whole functioned like this, we'd still be living in the stone age

How do you figure?

The history of social change in the world starts with dissident voices making people aware of problems that lie outside the "norm".

Technology is advanced by those who seek better ways and systems.

The arts have always been reactionary to those embracing a status quo.

Direct hostility has it's place as well.

I'm sure some people forget but the recent TOS issue was only addressed BECAUSE of the vocal outrage and action it created in many influential creators.

No, it was aimed at the creator of the thread, @BobbyjoeXforgotensb.

Though I believe when I first saw some of your posts I was like "Wow, this guy is a dick" lol But I think that was only a very few posts a while ago since I haven't really seen that recently.

gees man, if you gotta be so perfectionist about it

imagine if countries or society as a whole functioned like this, we'd still be living in the dark ages

You're not reading ALL the threads then.:grin:

Having an opinion or POV that differs from others often inspires name calling. I really don't sweat it.

I don't think the idea that ANYBODY should be made to feel like they should agree/be happy just to come to a community forum.

You think the Renaissance is a period defined by not embracing changes?

I think it’s fair to say the forums has a bit of a “fun police” issue, tho it may not be articulately said.

no i don't because the reality is that countries and society as a whole dont actually work like that, and if they did, there would never have been social evolution to make society better.

But if you're going to be so picky, just look at US history ffs. We went from brutal slavery to gay rights movements because of things like protesting and complaining (although slavery took a whole war to get rid of, but that war would've never happened if there was no complaint).

I really dont have the energy to argue about this rn any further so dont expect any more responses from me about this

I will try to manage my disappointment.

Especially since somehow you've converted to team change after TWO statements that didn't reflect that viewpoint at all.

You two are arguing the same side...... Both are saying the same thing but somehow think that you're disagreeing with each other...... Don't know how that happened, but it might get this thread shut down if you two don't stop escalating it.

That's only by the third post...there's nothing in their other posts reflecting that opinion. They responded to a post on change by doubling down on the "stuck in the" posts.

I regret nothing.:grin:

I feel @Cavechan was trying to say that "what suggestions would you like to add then?" Like, people bring up slavery and LGBT+ rights, but you gotta remember -- it wasn't just talk. There were ACTIONS involved. Big or small, there was an action involved to find some type of solution.

And though this really isn't that serious, my point stands -- If you feel something isn't fair, what suggestions or compromises can be added? How would you change the situation to make things better? If all you're doing is offering complaints but not really working to a solution...then what do you expect to get done?

Like, I complain as much as the next person about Webtoons all day, but I'll also throw out what I feel should change in order to benefit other people and myself.

Edit: Guess I gotta get more detailed. Literally has nothing to do with being "happy happy go go". It has to do with whether or not someone is constantly, proactively, offering complaints but have nothing to say when someone asks "ok -- then how would you approach this topic?"

Context is very much important, and since this isn't really a serious type of thing, yes -- I will stand by my stance. If this were as serious as slavery or fighting for human rights, complaining in that context? That's entirely different because something of human value is being infringed on. Here in the forums? This right here where offering a suggestion could improve something or at least get a better compromise? Not so much.

Better example -- artist collaborations. You have the one member who is nonstop offering complaints about what's going wrong, how slow the collab is going. The other members want that imput and ALSO want to see how they'd improve it or what suggestions they'd make -- the member doesn't none of this. They say "Oh, I dunno", but then continue to complain about things not getting done. Clearly, they DO have something to contribute on how to make things better but chose instead to not voice that. So nothing gets done. Same context here.