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I'm with you on that. Like, there's such a fine line between "this person who is not from this background is trying to be disrespectful" vs "this person who is not from this background is really interested in the culture and wants to be as respectful as possible"

I love different types of cultures, but sometimes, it can be real hard to write about it because you don't want people to assume you're spewing ignorant feces. You want to include the world because there's no "right brand' of people, but lately, people get in their heads that "if it doesn't appeal to me personally, it's offensive"

And then we'd be having another discussion all together XD

sigh Just when I thought the Owlturd guy had grown a backbone...

Somebody started shit with him on social media last night. A witch-hunt if you will all because he had a friendly convo with a pro GG personality and get this, they took the opportunity to shamelessly plug their mediocre comic while they were putting Shen on blast. Now Shen is apologizing for nothing like the spineless...gah

Look. I know the guy has depression issues and low self esteem, but it just tears me seeing someone like that get kicked around when they've done nothing wrong. "This is not a proper callout" my ass! This is the type of scummy untalented hack who will kick the dog when the moment is opportune. This type of behavior in any community, not just the webcomics community is unacceptable and is the exact type of social justice crap I'm opposed to in the western comics industry right now.

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@Aspie_Gamer

You actually brought up something I want to sorta "bitch" about XD

When I was around 13 - 14 years old, I was totally like this. I didn't do call out posts, but whenever I saw them, I was like "YES. Treat that asshole a lesson"

I'm 20 now, and honestly...? I have bigger things to worry about. I have college, I have an internship, I have family. I just...don't have time to constantly focus on negative things and negative people.

Don't get me wrong: I dislike everything bigots stand for. Racism, Sexism, anti-LGBTQIA+, Ableism, Ageism, etc.: none of that shit will stand by me. But at the same time, I cannot keep getting upset every time someone says something out of pocket. I used to do that a lot, and often, I was shaking in front of my computer, very heated up, almost in tears.

How the hell is that helping anyone?

What good am I actually doing?

Instead of just being angry, I could be donating to people who need help (which I do).
Instead of just being angry, I could work with students and children who need more education (which I do).
Instead of just being angry, I could help my community by volunteering (which I do).
Instead of just being angry, I could join peaceful protest (which I do).

There's so many alternatives to just lashing out and being angry all the time. And there's so much more to my life than focusing repeatedly on the bad. If I do that, that puts me down and drags me down, and I can't stand for it.

So I guess my dislike is when people stay angry and express that anger and just...focus on that anger. They don't talk about any positive, they don't try and help others. They just...sit there and stay angry but do nothing. They write paragraphs about call-out posts and why "so-and-so is such an asshole", but you only get like, two lines of good things happening for them.

For me, that's not living life to the fullest...

Regarding the convo on Coco

I don't like the notion that only poc can create poc oriented content HOWEVER, I think there's more reason behind the fear of supporting Coco at least. You see...before Coco was fully Coco there was this..issue per se. It was years ago and was - for the most part forgiven - but when the film was in development Disney & Pixar wanted to trademark Día de los Muertos which was a huge no and met with obvious backlash. You can't own an important holiday to various cultures [it's not just Mexican]. Due to the backlash Pixar changed gears and hired Mexican artists, writers, and such to be more in-check with the background of the story. But due to the badblood Coco made early on it kinda made it difficult to trust right off the bat.

That is why many many tumblr-folk were hesitant of the film being released to my knowledge.

I just wanted to give a bit of info on why they might feel that way.

However, I am very aware of the tumblr mentality in regards to work depicting any minority.

I agree. Even I've been learning to pick and choose my battles and had it been some random artist, I wouldn't have griped about it here, but because its the Owlturd guy and knowing that he has a very bad habit of apologizing for the littlest of things, I figured it warranted a post here in the Bitching thread.

@joe_galindez

Because they're bullies who cry about and defame supposed "bigots" until they get their way or they force an unwarranted apology from them and as somebody who was a target for bullying growing up, I'm partial towards sticking up for the little guy. Its simply in my nature.

Fair enough, but you were retweeting people who supported violence against other people.

Do you really think you're so different? What would you do if you were born in the same circumstances?

I am not opposing you wrote, and I have no knowledge of that Disney event from a few years back. I just want to clarify something. Disney can trademark whatever it wants. The purpose of a trademark is to provide a legal defense against counterfeiters who attempt to pass off their products as you products by purposefully confusing a consumer. You could trademark the word "the" if you wanted. You could then market a product called the THE. If I then come along and sell my own THE with a similar appearance, the same packaging, the same font, et cetera, you would have grounds for a trademark infringement lawsuit against me.

It' copyright law that is more about intellectual property.

Look-at-me! I'm not a lawyer!

Like how Games Workshop trademarked "space marine"?

sure be respectful, in Cocos case they team made a 5 year research journey in mexico to learn how the Mexican family works, and people in mexico loved the movie to bits, not cause it was authentic mind you but because they got the heart and made the movie GOOD

I remember that once in USA people protested Speedy Gonzales(who is a Mexican stereotype) and they got Warner to stop producing episode, you know who got pissed off and haven't forgotten this since... Mexican =P

let us fight on our own, is basically what they were saying

I would say more like their acting like Foreigners will go crazy cause they got something wrong, like we are some kind of little babies and need them to take care of our little baby feelings =/, kind of pisses me off frankly >:T

I wished I could believe that, it would give me hope for tumblr if that was the reason. Thought I feel, from what I've seen at least, it is probably not the case -.-

also yay!! for disney being disney and for horrible business and marketing practises *I'm being sarcastic for those who are denser than a black hole

@IdiotWithPencil
@Zaboem
@hades
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@joe_galindez

I tagged you because you may be interested.

I was curious about the whole Disney trying to buy a holiday and found this.

And just to be sure it wasn`t a CNN thing, i searched if other news spoke about it.



Yes and no, Games Workshop can trademark it's "space marine" but not all space marines. Apple computers once successfully trademarked specific colors in the context of those colors in computer cases.

Commercialism at its finest.
At this rate, companies can own Christmas. Heck, why hasn't the Vatican done so yet?
Like, per se, Warner Bros can trademark Christmas trees, Disney can trademark the gifts, etc., etc.
With this whole emphasis on "mine, mine, mine", no wonder we're all in decline.

@Aspie_Gamer It's all just entitlement. Whether entitlement to their own opinions, or to themselves, this is going to create problems.
Pride. Biggest problem of this Earth.

So true.

A big problem is that people mistake pride with dignity. And that causes all those ego wars when it comes to debating. Debating can be good if the goal is to search the truth and understanding. But when is just "i will prove that guy wrong", that is the point it devolves. Most people are not seeking the truth, they are only interested in owning it.(now that i think about it, that may be an interesting plot point for a story)

You might be thinking about copyrights. Copyright means ownership of intellectual properties. Trademarks are merely about marketing.

@DiegoPalacios go for it, man!
something where truth becomes a currency, and the protagonist learns that you don't need to have all the truths.
"sometimes a subtle lie is better than the cold truth."

@Zaboem It's pretty much the same thing. You copyright something, you want that property to be exclusively yours. Trademarks, you label something that links it to you.
Tools for the cash-grab, and the cash-grab to get more things that will be yours.
Rinse and repeat.

No, they are really not the same thing at all. Don't take my word for it. Read up on it yourself.