Hey artist what’s is yall’s opinion on A.I art?

Guys, Gen AI isn't skynet, that's giving it waaay too much credit for what it actually is.

They may call it AI, but it is anything but intelligent. There's no thought, no reason behind the calculations. All it is is an extensive list of labeled input and an algorithm that can make an aggregate output based on that. It doesn't understand what it's doing like how a human understands.

These things aren't suddenly going to "wake up" and decide to launch all the world's nukes. They're single use machines that can only perform their one task. Pretending otherwise plays into the marketing spiel of these techcompanies, who can then pretend they have something more on their hands than just a plagiarism machine.

Everything starts somewhere...a logical thinking powerful machine will definitely think the human species is awful.

But on more practical concerns it's that the technology always is ahead of the ethics and no one wants to slow down and think about them because it's a capitalist race. Like you're referring to, AI has the ability to plagiarise every piece of art produced before someone puts in the laws to protect creators.
Or not getting to heavily into social politics, but the prejudices that have been found in face recognition technologies obviously programmed in from the society its created in.

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I can kinda accept it, if you need an idea and only use it for inspiration. It's still not good, because you detrain your brain to be crearive... But okay.

Other than that, no thanks! My little sis experiments with AI generated music and yes, she puts a ton of work in it to get the right outcome... Still, it sounds so lifeless, I don't like to listen to it.

But what makes me angry, is when people sell AI generated stuff on little art and crafts markets... Gosh I was so pissed, when I figured out, I bought AI stuff! I GO to such markets to SPECIFICALLY help artists and not to buy lifeless art!

Don't know if you people are aware of how AI art is actually created, for example, if the engine needs to draw a curve, it simply resorts to a mathematical function to do it, computers can't draw at all, all you see is a complex set of analytic functions trying to mimick a form. It's common to see fractals and repeated patterns in that type of "ART". It's nothing but an ilusion, it aint art at all.
Real art is all about randomness and manual strokes, and computers totaly suck at it.

Eeeh, I highly doubt it. It's not machines ruling over us that we should fear, rather the ones already in power using machines to make their control more absolute.

Why though? Why is it logical to think the human race is awful. There's nothing objective about it, even "logic" itself is not something that exists naturally in nature, it's a human invention. So a machine that would 'logically' conclude the human race is awful will do so based on the logic of the person or people that made it in the first place. And yeah, there are plenty people out there (including the most powerful amongst us) that think humanity is awful.

So again, it's not the machines that need to be feared, but the people that wield them against us.

Pretty much this.

The way I see it, the dystopia we are potentially barreling towards is not that of terminator, but a cyberpunk one.

meh... just an over glorified search engine, the hate for it is overexaggerated

My hubby does a lot with AI and hangs out with a lot of professional graphic designers who use AI. The way they explained it to me that for good pictures, you're either spending thousands for the models and photographers, spending hours searching for the right elements online, or you're spending hours drawing to get the elements you need for the final project. AI lets them take like ten minutes to generate a dozen reference images they can harvest for the final piece.

And with AI music, it doesn't really bother me. Musicians sample other musicians all the time and even big name composers are composing masterpieces on an IPad. If AI can help songwriters get more songs out so they can sell them to record labels, why not?

I have been accused of AI art to the point I had to take down all my pieces that I did not show full process of creation from beginning to end. I never did a timeline before cause I didn't get into digital art until the most recent years.

AI is just regurgitated information it still can't reach human creativity, and it probably never will

It lacks the humanity of a drawing but its creative bounds can grow. It doesn't have emotion or errors or anything of the sort. But its learning how to.

I saw some ad for some AI app on YouTube and the examples it gave were literally just Anne Hathaway from The Princess Diaries. The app was trying to claim they generated it but it was obviously just stolen.

I often wonder if some AI images are mostly just putting a filter over an image instead of making something new.

It can't and it's awful, but since it's currently cheap and fast, it's a flood of garbage that makes it much harder to find anything worthwhile and funding that goes into AI productions could've been spent on artists or at least humans who aren't scammers.

Actually no. Chords, tropes, style, etc aren't copyrightable. From what I've been told, the only times copyright becomes an issue is if someone is trying to deliberately trying to pass someone else's work off as their own or are trying to pass themselves off as another artist, like mimicry. Miley Cyrus's "Flowers" caused problems because she was directly referencing lyrics from "When I was Your Man". YouTuber Yuyi Chua is another example of someone trying to pass off someone else's content as their own. If I decided to record and post covers of Taylor Swift songs on my YouTube channel, I don't owe her anything. My covers would be protected under the general umbrella of Fair Use.

So sampling someone else's song is no different that learning to draw from art books or drawing your favorite cartoon character. As long as it's not an exact dup of someone's copyrighted work or a person isn't trying to profit off someone else's name, you are pretty open to do whatever you want creatively.

I don't think you know what sampling is.

When you sample something, you take the copyrighted work or generally a piece of it, and rework it into a new work. The original copyright holder, however, is actually compensated for the sample used.

This isn't the same as making a reference to, or using a similar chord progression.

Gen ai, which is build on copyrighted material, churns out slob build from that copyrighted material without compensating the original copyright holder.

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Once again, the gen ai machines are using copyrighted material without compensating the copyright owners. That's what their models are built on. It's not inspired, not a single chord progression, the whole damn track lists of whole swats of musicians fed into the slob grinder.

When another musician uses a sample, as in a piece of copyrighted material, as in an actual piece of a music track made by another musician, to make a new song, they pay royalties to that musician.

When an ai prompter uses a gen ai, which essentially samples the whole entire damn thing, there is no compensation to the musician whose work has been literally used in the making of the ai-slob.

This is again, not the same as being inspired or making a cover or using a similar chord progression.

I'm wondering what the point of this argument is? We've established that we all disagree on one point or another. It seems to me like we should cut our losses and go home before anything gets uncivilized...

I'll let you know my opinion on AI art if any is ever created. Right now there are only AI generated images.

I hate to be this type of person but youre wrong. It is properly hated.

Personally, I love drawing. Having a computer draw for me is like having a computer play Smash Bros for me. Kinda takes the point out of it. Because of this, I’ve never used AI for art. I’ve used it for research and advice on marketing my work, but not for artistic composition.

That being said, it’s not going anywhere. If you want to use AI, have at it. Just keep in mind your work might be frowned upon by your potential readers as it’s a very controversial practice. You’ll need some very good writing skills to back it up.

Today's "Breaking Cat News" comic by Georgia Dunn (You can follow her on GoComics. I highly recommend her comic!) is on point:

In my mind, it depends on how it's used. It should only help generate concept ideas, which you can make your art from those ideas without using the AI slop. Though, it most definitely shouldn't be used all the time.

But, people are lazy, and they will just use an AI image and then try to make money from it. In both the writing and art communities, it's downright dumb and pretty shameful to use AI as a crutch for everything without trying to at most put creative effort into anything.

I absolutely hate it, it is immoral. Most artists didn't consent to having their work used for training.

I keep seeing this use and while I can see the utility, I wouldn't use it for concept work directly - that's a good way to make sure your work looks like everyone else's and doesn't stand out. There's lots of other sources for good pose or costume ideas that won't seem as generic.

One day AIs will take the creative freedom to destroy the human race XD

I don't recommend them to you, the laws here forbid it

It's an absolute abomination and as someone who has been working in 2d animation for the past 6 years, I've actually seen it cause people to freak out and switch careers - giving up their dreams. I hate it more than I can describe. It's an electronic thief with zero artistic merit. It's soulless garbage and anything it creates that resembles soul - it stole.

Never liked the generative AI in art and culture. AI should really only be used in the medical field, that is where it is most useful and impressive. That is just one example, and I will not be listing a whole note, you know what I mean. And yes, I know there is AI tools for art programs. Not talking about those either, I am only talking about generative AI.

It is also a conflict with me, I think all of us having these computers, phones, and tablets and TVs, are more enough screen powered entertainment for our earth to take. These generative AIs takes a lot of space and dries out water. Basically a bit more global warming. I don't see the point of sitting down and doing keyboard smashing for 10 minutes or 6 hours be a worth hobby, when there is better stuff you can do on your devices such as games.

But I also believe in human labor or power, whatever we call it. There is a job everyone can do, and there is jobs some people just can't do. Some people enjoy being a cashier, some people can't cause of something stopping them. Such as anxiety, that can be something you just can't come over completely. Some can code and do engineer work, some can't. We shouldn't be taking job opportunities away from people.

And I am not one to generalize, everyone I see who supports generative AI believes some jobs shouldn't exist cause it isn't real in their perspective:skull:

I think that AI dissallows imagination, and that it's lazy as crap