I don't see how we can speak of 'conspiracy' theories.
Michaelson said the redesign was not due to Tapas being sold to another company. I tend to believe him, because he could totally have avoided the question, which I would expect him to have done in this case, rather than lying.
So, if it's not that, we're looking at something less drastic:
Either:
- Pressure from investors
- Decision made by the Tapas team in the light of what's the competition is doing
- A bit of both
All possibilities are open and not unlikely. They're plenty of precedents for all cases. Imagining a rushed decision due to investor pressure is imagining Tapas fell into a common, everyday issue.
Now if someone says Tapas redesign is a job of the secret services to shut up a dissident/foreign creator...
I feel like the thread here is getting uncomfortable and it’s not encouraging to read at all. Let’s keep it to bugs and main problems related to design/exposure/observations, at a sane & respectful level lmao. As we know the design is not going to change back, we have to suggest improvements on how it’ll work better in numbers and short texts.
Such as the need of the endless scroll/ need of banner being mentioned by a lot of people. There’s no need for conspiracy, philosophy, texts which the staff can’t use in fixing/thinking up possible solutions. How about another thread for long, personal rants? That’s valid too, but quite useless here.
If anything, mentioning that these decisions were probably made by an upper management/investor system of sorts keeps people's expectations grounded when it comes to possibly reverting the site. People keep asking for it and while it would be a nice pipe dream, it's like 99% certain it's not gonna happen because it's just not realistic. Time and paid labor was put into it, which means a lot of money was put into it. And considering Michael actually has avoided the question then it's obvious we're not going to see an answer in the form of a rollback, possibly not even as gracious as an actual response to the question, "Why was this necessary in the first place?"
I'm definitely not saying we need to be wearing tinfoil hats here lmao I'm saying we as creators have the right to recognize Tapas' pattern of behavior these last few years and how it factors into their current decisions - and how it will undoubtedly shape their future ones, as well as our own as creators. We can turn this into just a bug-reporting thread, sure - but just reporting the bugs is sort of missing the bigger problem that's let it get this far in the first place. You can't put a band-aid on a bullethole, you need to remove the bullet. The redesign, the bugs, the current lack of features that were simple and doable that are now gone for some reason, such as banners - it's all a symptom of a much bigger problem, which boils down to Tapas' lack of transparency about what sort of platform they're trying to be, and for who. If they're trying to go through a complete rebrand (again, technically, because they went through their first big one when they changed to Tapas and released the app) then that's fine, but they need to communicate that. They can't expect to just make changes willy nilly without some amount of community backlash and speculation - especially when they've been largely silent on the issues in return. Yes, the circumstances are plenty different at a time like this, but all the while plenty of us are using this time to decide if it's worth waiting around for them to fix these issues if the reason why they're issues in the first place are never being addressed.
Also - and this is me being crass, I'll probably get the paddle for it - the Tapas staff may not operate on weekends, but the mods are free reign. And I haven't seen any topic redirection from them yet. After all, it's called "Website updates and collecting feedback", isn't it? And the thread itself was created to compile everyone's complaints and feedback into one thread because before it was made, there were like 6 different loose threads on the topic. The only other one that exists now is the user-run poll thread. So part of me would like to believe that even the mods know that Tapas' behavior surrounding the update is still relevant even if it's not standard bug-reporting. But maybe that's just my own pipe dream lmao I'm almost definitely going to get an ass whooping after this, aren't I?
Now I know their situation is different, but here's some funny food for thought - over on GlobalComix, the community asked for banners, and they had it done within the hour. Tapas obviously has its differences in that it's an actual office with a chain of command and need approval on what they can work on at any given time, vs. GC which is run by a very small staff without investor support (afaik). But GC also has a really small staff and it seemed to be zero issue for them to do. Would it really be that hard for Tapas to add something that we had already programmed into the website prior to the update? IDK how much their backend has changed from a designer/programmer perspective, but it can't have been that severe that they can say they "don't know how to do it". The longer time goes on, especially considering the banners were some of the first things people asked to have back basically as soon as this thread was up, before all the COVID-19 shutdowns, tells me that their answer wouldn't be "we couldn't figure it out", but rather "It's not in our game plan even though there's community demand for it" or even more tongue-in-cheek, "Webtoons doesn't do it, so we're not doing it."
So yes, I do think people need to manage their expectations. Right now my expectations - as well as those of many others - have been brought down to the lowest bar possible for Tapas. Because they've proved we can't expect much better of them through their actions alone. It's gonna take a lot of bug fixes to put a dent in that iceberg.
In the meantime, yes, we have to be patient, I'm not denying that. We have to wait for Tapas to achieve some semblance of normalcy in these rough times. But we can also be there for each other as creators while we decide if sticking it out further is worth it considering Tapas' circumstances of making a lot of the same mistakes over and over again while ignoring the bigger issue causing said mistakes.
hey just my five cents, having read on the site for a few weeks since the redesign--I really don't like how the subscribe button ever leaves the screen. IMO the "SUBSCRIBE" should be clear, it should be visable, (and it should look nice) and it should never, under any circumstances, leave your screen. We need these subs. I can't be having people pull up a menu to sub. Ever. Not ever. Most people will not be bothered to do it.
Most readers will just read, and then close the screen and then come back days later to this forum saying "heeyyy I was reading a comic that had x y z, does anyone know what it's called???" <--which happens, way too often.
Like if the subscribe button was in a top corner the way tumblr does it--where it just always hangs there, despite how you scroll--I feel like it would help most of us since it would encourage more follows and hopefully encourage more people to join the platform.
We are currently working infinite scrolling but do not have an updated eta at this moment. We are trying to address the memory/load time issue.
Apologies for the radio silence - we have been working on updating the website with additional fixes and and adjustments (some of which haven't been shipped yet). We will be making an additional announcement shortly about an update to the web/mobile apps along with a list of next steps for the website. We had to execute a time-sensitive server migration which has delayed some of the additional fixes. Apologies for those delays.
I'll only really be responding to product update questions - while we are reading and monitoring the responses, I feel that part of the discussion has gotten really off topic and aren't conducive to making the website better.
And for those worried, we appreciate the kind thoughts. We have been practicing safe social measures during the covid-19 situation, our entire staff is working from home for the foreseeable future, and have set up thoughtful support infrastructure to ensure both the physical and mental health of staff members. Right now, we're working on creator reach out for our premium creators to figure out what we can do to help during this time - along with helping out our part time and freelance team members.
During this time, we've been working around the clock to also prep the site and apps to better support all creators on Tapas financially for the month ahead - we'll be making an announcement around this shortly as well.
Suffice to say, this has all come at an inopportune time and the real world events that we're seeing are all unprecedented. We are committed to listening to the feedback for the website updates and implementing those in a timely fashion, while also simultaneously trying to address the aforementioned real world events and it's mental, physical and financial impact it has had on our community.
Thank you @michaelson ! I'm glad to hear that everyone is safe and look forward to the announcement!
Thank you for keeping us updated, and really glad to hear you're all safe and as mentally healthy as possible in these circumstances!
Quick question, not sure if this is the right place but i'll try anyway. I saw an ink spring sale on the app, but it doesn't seem to be on the desktop version, is that normal?
Good luck with all the fixes and new stuff you guys are working on, and stay safe!